got moss?

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:09 pm

It has to be a free agent. He said they held a workout today. I'm not sure but do they have workouts with players that are signed to a current team. I dont think so. HUMMMMM I WONDER????????

SkinsLaVar · Post by **SkinsLaVar** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:10 pm

kkryan wrote:The news will be the signing of Moss. Just heard on espn news that Pastabelly was reporting his signing to long term contract.

how do u know thats the news?

terps and skins · Post by **terps and skins** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:10 pm

i really hope he's worth this contract. not sure if we overpaid, but we'll find out.

portis26 · Post by **portis26** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:11 pm

http://www.redskins.com/news/multimedia.jsp

ANT7088 · Post by **ANT7088** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:46 pm

Skeletor wrote:How do we know there will be big news tomorrow? Psychic or was there some announcement?

In his interview about releasing Tim Hasselbeck, at the end they talked about it!

kkryan · Post by **kkryan** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:47 pm

SkinsLaVar wrote:
kkryan wrote:The news will be the signing of Moss. Just heard on espn news that Pastabelly was reporting his signing to long term contract.

how do u know thats the news?

Just putting the two together. Gibbs releases Timmy and says stay tuned there is more news tomorrow...and later in the day Pastabelly reports we have reached a contract extension with Santana Moss.

ANT7088 · Post by **ANT7088** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:50 pm

Moss' six-year extension worth $31 million

Speedy wide receiver Santana Moss, the veteran on whom the Washington Redskins are counting to add some big-play dimension to their anemic passing attack of last season on Wednesday reached a contract extension with the club, ESPN.com has learned.

Moss was officially acquired from the New York Jets on March 9 in a swap of unhappy wide receivers, with Laveranues Coles going to the Jets, the team that originally brought him into the league. The trade had been discussed by the Redskins and Jets for two weeks before it was finally consummated, and then was delayed several more days because the two players had to pass physical examinations.

The six-year extension, negotiated by agent Drew Rosenhaus and scheduled to be signed on Thursday, is worth $31 million. But the sixth-year of the deal will void if Moss merely reaches minimum playing time levels, and so the five-year value of the add-on is $26.55 million. The deal includes $11 million in combined signing and option bonuses, paid out over two years.

The four-year veteran was entering the final season of his original NFL contract and he was scheduled to have a base salary of $540,000 for the 2005 season.

Rosenhaus and Redskins officials have been working on the extension since the trade was completed. But with the draft, and Washington having to clear salary cap space to finish the deal, it took more than a month to complete.

There was never any doubt that, once the trade was consummated, the two sides would strike an extension agreement, just as Coles did with the Jets. While negotiations dragged on, though, Moss stayed away from the Redskins' offseason training program. He will report on Wednesday evening to the team and begin participating in the workouts as early as Thursday, Rosenhaus confirmed.

"Everyone worked hard, first of all, to get the trade finished, and then to complete this (extension)," Rosenhaus said before boarding a flight back to his Miami base. "Santana is excited to be with the Redskins and, obviously, he is a player that Washington wanted in its offense. Hopefully, this contract with spark some movement with some other wide receivers in the league."

Rosenhaus represents several other prominent receivers, such as Philadelphia's Terrell Owens and Javon Walker of Green Bay, who are seeking to upgrade their contracts.

Moss, 25, was the Jets' first-round choice in the 2001 draft. The former University of Miami star, who possesses great quickness, has 151 catches for 2,416 yards and 19 touchdowns in 51 appearances.

He has been hampered at times by hamstring and knee injuries but, when healthy, is an explosive performer, as reflected in a career average of 16.0 yards per catch and one touchdown every 7.9 receptions. Of his 151 catches, 106 have resulted in first downs or touchdowns. Moss' best season came in 2003, when he posted 74 receptions for 1,105 yards and 10 scores.

The four-year veteran is also a playmaker on special teams and has averaged 11.9 yards and scored two touchdowns on 88 career punt returns.

Certainly the Washington passing game, statistically the NFL's fourth-least productive in 2004, can use a receiver of Moss' potential. The Redskins, stymied in part by an archaic design that featured a lot of "maximum" protections and only two receivers in the pattern, averaged a paltry 5.36 yards per pass play last season, and 10.96 yards per completion. Both those numbers were second-lowest in the league.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=2053347

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Wed May 04, 2005 6:51 pm

If you go to www.redskins.com they have an interview with Rosenhaus and said Moss will be here tonight and working tommorrow.

He also did say that he "hopes to get Sean Taylor's situation resolved." So I guess Sean does want a new contract for fact.

But at least Rosenhaus is good friends wtih Snyder so hopefully they will get it taken care of quickly.

Also, did you know Rosenhaus is clients of Portis, Moss, Sean Taylor, Taylor Jacobs, Antonio Brown, and I think one more guy but i forgot who...

skins81 · Post by **skins81** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:01 pm

portis26 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote: The deal includes $11 million in combined signing and option bonuses, paid out over two years.

The four-year veteran was entering the final season of his original NFL contract and he was scheduled to have a base salary of $540,000 for the 2005 season.

Here are the bonus amounts...

Front loaded bonuses.

Redskins4Life · Post by **Redskins4Life** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:10 pm

6 years 31 million for Moss? What the hell are we thinking

(d)oink · Post by **(d)oink** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:15 pm

portis26 wrote:Do you guys think we overpaid?

Yes

vife · Post by **vife** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:17 pm

So much for Joe Gibbs having his way.

We paid that much for a guy who wouldn't come to camp otherwise. And we sent coles shipping, doesn't make any sense.

Skeletor · Post by **Skeletor** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:27 pm

Front loaded bonuses?

All bonuses are front loaded.

Clinton Portis · Post by **Clinton Portis** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:43 pm

We didnt really overpay.

Though its worth 31 Million, it wont be detremental to the cap very much...and it will decrese the longer he is here.

I'm sure its loaded with incentives and "options" and things to get us out of paying him out the anal.

Of course millions of Chicken Littles will make threads such as "OMG'Z MOZZ GOT TEH BIG BONUZ...D00m IZ UPON UZ!" :roll:

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Wed May 04, 2005 7:59 pm

vife wrote:So much for Joe Gibbs having his way.

We paid that much for a guy who wouldn't come to camp otherwise. And we sent coles shipping, doesn't make any sense.

Um ... you have been following this story from start to finish, right? Coles, who didn't want to be a Redskin, was "sent shipping", aka traded, for Moss, who does want to be a Redskin.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 · Post by **SKINZ_DOMIN8** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:03 pm

Hail Santana.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:04 pm

Moss had damned well better catch 15 TD's this season!

I'm still pissed that I spent all that time learning to spell Laveranues for nothing!

kkryan · Post by **kkryan** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:22 pm

Redskins, Moss Agree On Extension
By Gary Fitzgerald
Redskins.com
May 4, 2005

The Redskins have agreed to a contract extension with wide receiver Santana Moss, the team announced on Wednesday. Moss's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, was at Redskins Park on Wednesday finalizing the contract extension.
The team has scheduled a Thursday afternoon press conference to discuss the contract extension. Check back with Redskins.com on Thursday for complete coverage, including live audio of the press conference.

Moss is expected to be on hand for the press conference. He is also expected to participate in the team's voluntary off-season workout program starting Thursday.

Santana Moss
The Redskins acquired Moss on March 10 in the well-publicized trade that sent unhappy wide receiver Laveranues Coles to the New York Jets.

Moss, 25, played four seasons with the Jets and accumulated 151 receptions for 2,416 yards and 19 touchdowns.

The 5-10, 185-pound wide receiver out of Miami (Fla.) finished the 2004 season with 45 receptions for 838 yards and a team-high five touchdown grabs.

In the AFC Divisional Playoff game against the Pittsburgh Steelers last season, Moss logged a 75-yard punt return for a touchdown.

In 2003, Moss set career highs with 74 receptions for 1,105 yards and 10 touchdowns.

Moss entered the league in 2001 as a first-round (16th overall) draft choice by the Jets.

Here is the article on that big news

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:23 pm

The signing of Moss is not big news.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:26 pm

Big deal.

njskinsfan · Post by **njskinsfan** » Wed May 04, 2005 8:40 pm

We need to start a poll as to when will Moss be lost for the year???? I say by game 5 and I am setting 5 as the over/under for the season for him.

Great Natale · Post by **Great Natale** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:01 pm

njskinsfan wrote:We need to start a poll as to when will Moss be lost for the year???? I say by game 5 and I am setting 5 as the over/under for the season for him.

What an optimist. But I sorta feel the same way. I don't think Moss is worth the money b/c of his size, lack of toughness, and being injury prone. That said prove me wrong Moss!!! I REALLY want to be wrong!!!

kkryan · Post by **kkryan** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:07 pm

crazyhorse1 wrote:The signing of Moss is not big news.

According to Larry Micheals it is

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:17 pm

well the signing of moss means that he will be staying here for 6+ years, thats big news.
It is rather unfortunate that Hasselbeck was released, he sucked but i still love him.

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:19 pm

It does seem that we sort of overpaid him, but this means that he has to prove to us, that he is better than wat we paid him and take us to the promised land.