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Edwards a Redskin?

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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3556808


I´ll rather have Williams, Mel Kiper JR is one of the best if not the best analyst for the draft, he said Mike Williams will be remembered 20 years from now as the best player of this year´s draft.
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Me too!
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Kiper is okay, but he's not as much of a guru as he pretends. Braylon Edwards is a beast, he's faster, works harder and probably won't baloon up to 250+ like Williams may...

Don't get me wrong if Williams is at 9, I want him
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I'd like to have MWilliams over Edwards but the thing is that both of these recievers are going to have impacts on their teams. So, I'd prefer Williams but wouldn't be pissed if we picked up Edwards.
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We are all reaching!!! I doubt if either of these 2 will be available at #9 spot. And the Vikes are about to move to #2 spot, thanks to Miami. So Edwards is definitely not coming to DC, cause the Vikes are sweating to get him in hopes of replacing RATIO.
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Post by hatsOFF2gibbs »

I was talking about if we traded up. There's no way Edwards will be there at the ninth pick. MWilliams....there's a possibility.
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Great insight!!!! After reading this article, if true, I would like to see him in a skins uniform this year.

Edwards' passion, work ethic make him No. 1
By Tom Friend
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I'd draft the dead man's son before the policeman's son. I'd pick the player's son over the head coach's nephew. I'd think twice about the Miami kids, but I'd be all over the Auburn kids. I'd pay attention to strength, but more to the strength coach.

The NFL draft, if you do it right, is investigative reporting. It's seeing through the con and also the 40 time. It's not watching the athlete on the field, it's somehow following him home to see what he does off of it. It's more personality test than Wonderlic test. At the scouting combine, teams will ask players, "If someone passes you, at high speed, on the highway, do you chase them or let them go?" Or they'll ask, "Would you rather be a cat or a dog?" It makes me wonder how they keep their jobs.

It's like what's going on in Chicago. The Bears, I'm told, are afraid of Braylon Edwards because they swung and missed on another Michigan receiver, David Terrell. And also because they've seen Edwards drop a ball or three. But the draft shouldn't be about fear, it should be about research. You talk to people. You find out that Braylon Edwards is so hyper before games, he can not sleep. That, the night before games, he'll call his mother and father at 2 a.m., wide awake. That, because of it, he tends to drop passes early in games, because he's still foaming at the mouth. "I'll never forget his first Notre Dame game," says Edwards' father, Stan, a former NFL player. "He was hyperventilating; his mouth was caked white. Took him a whole quarter to come down. So he'll drop the first or second ball to him sometimes. It's like clockwork almost. Gets it out of his system."

Brett Favre gets overexcited early in games just like that, but it takes some probing to find these tidbits out. You think Lovie Smith talked to Edwards' dad? See, now I understand why Tom Coughlin, when he took over the Jaguars, nearly hired our colleague, Chris Mortensen, to help him with research. Football is the one sport for which heart and character is arguably more relevant than skill. And so, when it comes to Saturday's top 10 picks, teams need to throw away the 40 times and pay more attention to a players' life and times.

Like I did.

Yes, the player's son should go first overall. People don't realize that Edwards, besides being an obvious talent, has a freakish work ethic. While he watches TV in the evening, he'll do flexibility work, or sit-ups or pushups. He refuses to just lie down on the couch.

The only time he'll sit still, in fact, is when he pops in a video tape of Jerry Rice. His father has compiled an extensive football video library, and Rice is the one player who gives Edwards the chills. He noticed how Rice would run just as hard in practice as in games, and that became Edwards' approach at Michigan. That's why he wore Rice's No. 80 his first two years in Ann Arbor. That's why sometimes he'd head to the track, after practice, and run extra sprints by himself. That's why Michigan coach Lloyd Carr says no one is as gung ho as Braylon Edwards.

The kid has been thinking like a pro player for years. In college, he got a massage after every game, which is what the NFL studs do. His dad, who used to play for the Oilers and Lions, introduced him to the Rams' Torry Holt, and Holt took him out to the field to tutor him. Holt let him have it, too, critiqued his pass patterns, and Edwards wasn't offended at all. Now, every day, he's working on hitches and digs and post corners, working on disguising his routes. He's proud to have Randy Moss's downfield speed, but also wants the route-running feet of Marvin Harrison.
He's also the kind of kid who cried after Michigan losses, who played his junior season with a broken finger, but never mentioned a word of it. After games, while wearing a suit and tie, he'd throw passes to little kids in the Michigan parking lot. When the Lions' M&M Boys, (Matt) Millen and (Steve) Mariucci, interviewed him this spring, they asked if he'd mind going to a team that already had Charles Rogers and Roy Williams. And Edwards answered: "No offense to those guys, but I love the game too much, and I'm gonna play." This could be the one player in the draft who has it all: Rice skill, Rice heart. The 49ers, 20 years later, should draft the reincarnate.
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Post by fleetus »

Yeah but at what price? This ain't fantasy football. Is he worth not having any first day picks this year and no first rounders next year? Would you give the #9, the #25 plus probably another pick or player to get Braylon? Personally, I would only give up that kind of value for an established star like Marvin Harrison. Braylon hopes if he reaches his FULL potential, doesn't get in any trouble, doesn't get hurt, that he can sniff Marvin Harrisons jock someday.
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If this guy becomes as good as some tallent scouts think, he would be worth it. Is T. Qwens or R. Moss worth two first round picks? I am not saying he is going to be that good, but several scouts have said that. I know that big things are said all the time about differnet players, but it is nice to have hope. I read somewhere that he is being compared to a faster T.O. with a much better attitude. I just thought that it was nice article about what appears to be a nice and tallented guy.
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Kiper is okay, but he's not as much of a guru as he pretends.

Amen. To wit:
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Thank you for that link, I want to shake that person's hand!
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Edwerds = Bust Drops passes and not overall id rather take ne of the top 3 CBs over him even if he was there at 9
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Edwards is NOT as good as Mike Williams. He probably will make a bigger impact his first season, but only his first season because Williams might have some rust to shake off. Mike Williams is a SPECIMEN. Anyone who stands at 6-5, 230 and runs a 4.59 needs to be taken very seriously. Edwards has great size, but Williams has amazing size. Mike Williams has hands that other wide recievers covet, while Braylon has the ability to make the great catch but subsequently drop the screen (i.e. Rod Gardner). Whats makes teams want Edwards more than Williams then? Well he's a little bit faster and stayed for four years in college which is becoming very rare for top ten picks these days. Regardless, I think if we make a trade we should swap with Minny and be guaranteed to get Mike Williams
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Any team that has as many needs as we do can't afford to trade up. Now teams like PBurge and Philly that are only a player or two away from a championship, they can afford to move up. We could have three potentially very good starts out of this draft if they play their cards right or we could have one potentially great receiver. Look at th past three SB Championships; the Ravens, Bucs, and Pats (X3) Name me one ELITE WR on either of those teams. I would say the top four receivers in this league are Harrison, Owens, Moss, and Chad Johnson. Any of them have a ring. How much better did Owens make Philly, a little, maybe! It didn't get them a trip to the White house did it. Philly and New Englang are built on afoundation of very good players two players that are fringe probowl players are better than one elite player any day.

Getting Edwards and no one to play CB would be counter productive. Whom ever we start, from our current roster, at CB would cost us more games than Edwards would win us!

The last WR Gibbs drafted was keenan McCardell in the 12th round and who did he trade up to get in the first round, some Michigan WR, I can't rember his name! Oh yeah, Desmond HowcouldIsucksobadard.

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We have someone to play CB, we have Walt Harris, Wilds, Jimoh, Clark.... Guys who stepped it up last seasons and proved to us they can play.

Lets for once believe in our players and stop trying to replace everyone all the time. Gregg believed in these guys why shouldnt we?

People act like we just lost a D Green, or a D. Sanders. I have his icon and all but Smoot wasn't nuthin special. We lost an average CB, and we have an average CB to take his place. I see no loss. Walt was injured he might play better than Smoot.
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We have someone to play CB, we have Walt Harris, Wilds, Jimoh, Clark.... Guys who stepped it up last seasons and proved to us they can play.


We can't go into the season without adding another corner. I appreciate your confidence in our guys but Harris is not starting caliber and Jimoh is more valuable to the other team's offense than he is to our defense. Assuming that Harris can step in and be a solid starter, what happens if Springs gets hurt? He's been injury prone during his career and even missed some time last year. Imagine a game in which we had to start both Harris and Jimoh, especially against some of the teams that we play next year with receivers such as Moss and Owens. Adding a talented young corner is very important for the Skins and should be one of the top priorities.
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Walt Harris was a solid starter in Indy before we signed him and he was a solid CB last season after we signed him. Is he going to all of a sudden be a terrible corner after an off-season of preparing to be a starter?
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Walt Harris was a solid starter in Indy before we signed him and he was a solid CB last season after we signed him. Is he going to all of a sudden be a terrible corner after an off-season of preparing to be a starter?


We can probably argue until we're blue in the face as to whether or not he's starting caliber. But that still doesn't change the fact that we do not have much depth at the position and that Sprins has been injury prone. We're one injury to him away from having one of the worst starting corner combos in the league. With Williams' d and the focus on blitzing good corner play is especially important for this team.
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Not that I do agree with. We are very thin at CB.
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Edwards would change our offense on day 1. He is a huge impact player. Id give both picks for edwards without blinking.
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Post by Chris Luva Luva »

I agree that we are thin at CB. I just dont think PacMan and Rolle are worth a #9 pick imo. We need to get Williams with that pick. If not I'd trade our pick for more picks.

I'd draft a young prospect and coach him up. Unlike years before we have coaches who know what they're doing. We no longer need to compensate for a lack of coaching ability with superstars. We have coaches on defense that made a nobody into one of our best defensive players (Peirce).

Its like people think Gregg Williams all of a sudden got dumb over the offseason.
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I agre with clll...I actually have for a while...lets go into the season with harris aprings and wilds... our wr position has been a problem for a while, remember when we lost chump everyone was panicking and wanted draft a corner, lets just have some confidence in some guys that stepped up
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Espn.com thinks we might trade up for him too

Apr. 21 - The newest suitor for Edwards in a trade up is the Washington Redskins. The Vikings have cooled a little on moving up from No. 7, but they will still shop until Saturday. The Redskins made several calls to teams at the top of the draft and even checked out to see Edwards' interest in coming to Washington. The Redskins have No. 9 and No. 25. Though it's more likley they will end up staying at the picks, Joe Gibbs is trying to come up with a big play late.


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Gibbs is just posturing. There is no way Gibbs gives up 4 picks including 2 #1's for a WR. He knows full well how hard it is to predict WR success in the NFL. Gibbs is sending out so many signals that every team that picks ahead of us has to completely guess as to what we will do. They all will feel the need to pull the trigger on whatever, just in case we do something. This is classic Gibbs and in the end we will get what we want, because we, unlike most of the other teams, have at least 4 players we want at each spot...

The only believeable scenario I've seen from anyone was that we might trade Gardner and our picks for Surtain and the #2 pick to get Edwards.

This would make sense for both teams, although we might need to add our 2nd round pick next year to make it truly even...
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andyjens89 wrote:Espn.com thinks we might trade up for him too

Apr. 21 - The newest suitor for Edwards in a trade up is the Washington Redskins. The Vikings have cooled a little on moving up from No. 7, but they will still shop until Saturday. The Redskins made several calls to teams at the top of the draft and even checked out to see Edwards' interest in coming to Washington. The Redskins have No. 9 and No. 25. Though it's more likley they will end up staying at the picks, Joe Gibbs is trying to come up with a big play late.


http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/rumorcentral?sport=nfldraft

God I hope that doesn't happen!! I don't want us to draft a WR with our first pick let alone move up to get yet another soon to fail Michagan WR. Their almost as bad as Florida WRs.

Mike Williams looks like he will be available at nine, but some people think that he will be another Keshawn Johnson, but not as good. He is big, but slow. And some experts are saying that he won't be any better than a #2 receiver.
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