Brunell trade

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:47 pm

I'm amazed the skins haven't shopped Brunell around. I think he's easily worth a 6th round pick, or could be packaged with Gardner to pull in a 3rd round pick. With a third round pick we could take a shot with a viable rookie as a backup, or maybe even take a shot with McPherson. It's already clear we're going to drop Hasselbeck in order to draft a rookie QB.
Let's double our chances for a back up. Say, take one rookie QB who's accurate and solid, another who's a project with a cannon for an arm. Pray god Brunell never takes the field for us again.

Fios · Post by **Fios** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:52 pm

Between last year's sub-par, to put it nicely, performance and Brunell's large contract not a single, sane NFL general manager would trade for Brunell.

Steve Spurrier III · Post by **Steve Spurrier III** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:05 pm

At this point, Brunell isn't worth a six round pick even if he was playing for the veteran minimum. There's a better chance that your sixth round pick turns into the next Tom Brady than Mark Brunell turns into the old Mark Brunell...

redskins12287 · Post by **redskins12287** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:23 pm

Whats wrong with Timmy as a back-up? He did well when put in during the QB's death trap of suppier's reign of terror...except fot that one Dallas game. Considering he is a back-up.

vife · Post by **vife** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:27 pm

nothing's wrong with him.

Justice Hog · Post by **Justice Hog** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:46 pm

Brunell isn't worth a 6-pack of beer let alone a 6th round pick!

fredp45 · Post by **fredp45** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:58 pm

plus Brunnell's leftover bonus would kill us...I guarantee, we keep him this year and we cut him after June 1, 2006...that way, we allocate his bonus in smaller chunks for this year and 2006. In 2007, he'll cost us some cap room, oh well, learn from our mistakes, that's all I ask!

JPM36 · Post by **JPM36** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:39 pm

We should offer someone our 4 and Brunell for a bag of balls just to get rid of him.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 7:07 pm

crazyhorse1 wrote:I'm amazed the skins haven't shopped Brunell around. I think he's easily worth a 6th round pick, or could be packaged with Gardner to pull in a 3rd round pick. With a third round pick we could take a shot with a viable rookie as a backup, or maybe even take a shot with McPherson. It's already clear we're going to drop Hasselbeck in order to draft a rookie QB.
Let's double our chances for a back up. Say, take one rookie QB who's accurate and solid, another who's a project with a cannon for an arm. Pray god Brunell never takes the field for us again.

if we traded brunell, that would add almost 5 million to our cap. Who do you suggest we cut to get far enough under the cap that we can also sign our draftees?

hatsOFF2gibbs · Post by **hatsOFF2gibbs** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:06 pm

There's no way we can trade Brunell because of the cap situation. I'd love to trade him but it's just not possible.

Why is everyone pissed off with THasselbeck? I actually like him.

gay4pacman · Post by **gay4pacman** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:19 pm

I love Hasselbeck. Go Ragles.. Why must the curse of Mark Brunell still linger...........

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 11:13 pm

No one hates Hasselbeck. It's just clear by now the Skins don't want him. As for trading Brunell (my idea), is there any way at all we can escape a cap hit of staggering proportions by bundling him with Gardner and taking some unwanted vet with a similiar ridiculous salary who might at least get us a sack or two before we cut him.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:04 am

crazyhorse1 wrote:No one hates Hasselbeck. It's just clear by now the Skins don't want him. As for trading Brunell (my idea), is there any way at all we can escape a cap hit of staggering proportions by bundling him with Gardner and taking some unwanted vet with a similiar ridiculous salary who might at least get us a sack or two before we cut him.

If brunell gave back his signing bonus that might do it, but it's never been done except by a retiring player. The union isn't going to even let a player give money back in the first place. Barry Sanders is the only case I can think of, but I believe there was one other.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:21 am

crazyhorse1 wrote:It's just clear by now the Skins don't want him.

If we hadn't tendered him a offer you could say it were clear but we did make him a offer. This means that the Skins are interested in keeping him at their price.

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:15 am

What happened that makes it 'clear' that we don't want Hasselbeck. Gibbs said after last year he was happy with his three qb's and didn't want to make any changes. We tendered him. He signed. I think its clear we do want him. If we had more picks, and weren't in the hole with Brunell I would say draft a young backup, but i think we are pretty decent at the position

DeathByLinebacker#56 · Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:19 am

We are stuck w/ Bruny for now. He has zero value on the market and he is better holding a clipboard and backing up PR for now. As soon as we can, we will unload this overpaid, underachieving QB. :twisted:

gregory smith · Post by **gregory smith** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:13 pm

Brunell is not tradeable. First of all no team would want him, he just can't play anymore. Secondly, the cap makes it impossible. I seriously doubt if he could be traded even if his salary situation was different. He was a good qb a few years ago, but that is behind him now.

DaSkinz4L · Post by **DaSkinz4L** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 2:11 pm

Ohhh Noooo we wont trade him!!! do you know what the cap penalty will be ! geezzz we just recieved a 9mill cap hit cause of LC......

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 4:21 pm

this "Trade Mark" talk is simply ludicrous.

Joe is happy with the QB situation. Yes, even with Brunell in there.

All I can say is...

I LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT SEASON, WHEN MARK LEADS US TO THE PLAYOFFS AFTER RAMSEY GOES DOWN IN WEEK 5.

Plenty of posters here will be eating crow once Brunell turns his career around next season.

MARK my words. :wink:

fleetus · Post by **fleetus** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 5:47 pm

I agree with you REDEEMED. Not about week 5 but about the rest of the band-wagon out there. Brunell is still a decent QB. It takes 11 men to play good football and last year on offense we had about five and a half most times. By the time Ramsey came in Bugle had put a couple of band-aids on the offensive line, Portis was starting to grasp "follow the blocks" fundamentals, and still Ramsey had his share of problems. ALSO, everyone conveniently forgets that Brunell is left handed. The whole training camp last year Gibbs, Bugle and co. were game-planning for Jansen to anchor the offensive line and guard Brunell's blind side. The RT position was BY FAR the most troublesome spot for our offense last year. (no disrespect to ol' Ray Brown intended)

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:17 pm

fleetus wrote:I agree with you REDEEMED. Not about week 5 but about the rest of the band-wagon out there. Brunell is still a decent QB. It takes 11 men to play good football and last year on offense we had about five and a half most times. By the time Ramsey came in Bugle had put a couple of band-aids on the offensive line, Portis was starting to grasp "follow the blocks" fundamentals, and still Ramsey had his share of problems. ALSO, everyone conveniently forgets that Brunell is left handed. The whole training camp last year Gibbs, Bugle and co. were game-planning for Jansen to anchor the offensive line and guard Brunell's blind side. The RT position was BY FAR the most troublesome spot for our offense last year. (no disrespect to ol' Ray Brown intended)

I agree with most of what you said. Explain one thing to me. Where does his lack of arm strength come from? Jon not being there? Portis not running well? Neither of which had to do with him not being able to get the deep ball out there. There was something clearly wrong with his throwing ability last year. Aside from that, his reads were great, his ability to roll out of the pocket was great among other things. Having a QB who cannot deliver the ball is like having a WR who cannot catch....o WAIT WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE TOO!! :lol:

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 7:48 pm

Ok weel trade brunell
ill go down to the flee market and buy a pack of seeds for him

El Mexican · Post by **El Mexican** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:09 pm

I'd trade this guy for a sack of potatoes if it where financiably posible.

His performance last year was one of the worst I´ve seen in my 20 years of football watching. Aside from the Dallas Monday-nighter, Brunell´s season was terrible.

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:13 pm

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:I LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT SEASON, WHEN MARK LEADS US TO THE PLAYOFFS AFTER RAMSEY GOES DOWN IN WEEK 5.

I pray that you didn't pray for that to happen.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:20 pm

Jake wrote:
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:I LOOK FORWARD TO NEXT SEASON, WHEN MARK LEADS US TO THE PLAYOFFS AFTER RAMSEY GOES DOWN IN WEEK 5.

I pray that you didn't pray for that to happen.

Good, I thought it was just me that felt that was the weirdest thing I've read on this forum in a long time. Lets hope for Shuler to come back to while we're at it.

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