Move down to the number 16th spot in the draft for Darren Howard and Saints get our number 9 spot. Hear this may go down in a few days look out for this one to happen. No link sorry, so you can take it for whats its worth.
We get a good DE and we can pick a Wr. or a CB with the 16th spot sounds good to me
Trade talk....
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I'd absolutely FLIP if this happened.
Wow would that be awesome for us!
Howard is a flat out stud, and with Williams he could really prosper in DC. 11 sacks last season with no less than 5 in each season since his 11 sack rookie season.
Say we get this deal done and we add Howard (28) to the line and then we could add Carlos Rogers, Matt Jones, Dan Cody, Troy Williamson or some other stud... Maybe even Heath Miller...
I hope this rumor isn't a hoax!
Wow would that be awesome for us!
Howard is a flat out stud, and with Williams he could really prosper in DC. 11 sacks last season with no less than 5 in each season since his 11 sack rookie season.
Say we get this deal done and we add Howard (28) to the line and then we could add Carlos Rogers, Matt Jones, Dan Cody, Troy Williamson or some other stud... Maybe even Heath Miller...
I hope this rumor isn't a hoax!
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Merriman would take years to get our return on investment.
Howard had 11 sacks last season ELEVEN!
If that deal were made we'd be superbowl contenders!
Howard had 11 sacks last season ELEVEN!
If that deal were made we'd be superbowl contenders!
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Skinsfan55 wrote:Merriman would take years to get our return on investment.
Howard had 11 sacks last season ELEVEN!
If that deal were made we'd be superbowl contenders!
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I don't agree with your comment that Merriman would take years to help us. DE's don't take years to show themselves..ala Terrell Suggs from the Ravens...
That position is more instinct, agression, speed, etc...it isn't like QB, WR, CB where you normally need to spend time in the league before really producing at a high level.
Howard would be a cap buster...we already have salary issues with Taylor, Moss, & our first round pick.
I don't agree with your comment that Merriman would take years to help us. DE's don't take years to show themselves..ala Terrell Suggs from the Ravens...
That position is more instinct, agression, speed, etc...it isn't like QB, WR, CB where you normally need to spend time in the league before really producing at a high level.
Howard would be a cap buster...we already have salary issues with Taylor, Moss, & our first round pick.
Its all hear say I would not put money on it but I have heard that we are looking to tade picks and 50/50 and that the Saints are looking and Darren Howard is out there for the picking I heard maybe a Trade with the Jets as well for Abraham and they get our pick and we get theres same deal as the other trade. Just keep an open eye out for the workings of a Draft trade, I am.
I would love for both Trade talks to happen
Finly a link for all this talk here ya go http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NF ... 040805.htm
I would love for both Trade talks to happen
Finly a link for all this talk here ya go http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NF ... 040805.htm
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Looking more like Abraham in the trade if it goes down.
Source: Jets fielding offers for Abraham
BY RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Locked in a contract dispute with John Abraham - an impasse that shows signs of turning ugly - the Jets are willing to listen to trade offers for their star pass rusher, an NFL source told the Daily News yesterday.
This represents a shift for the Jets. A few days after the season, GM Terry Bradway said, "John is going to be here." But the landscape has changed.
Abraham, slapped with the "franchise" tag, is believed to be seeking about $20 million in guarantees and he recently expressed frustration through his agents about the lack of progress in negotiations. He's not participating in the Jets' offseason program, which began Monday. The Jets aren't actively shopping Abraham, the source said, but the difference between "shopping" and "listening" can be a matter of semantics. Abraham's status will add intrigue to the draft, which begins April 23.
Abraham, 26, is a three-time Pro Bowl selection, but his lack of durability is a concern. According to Abraham's camp, the Jets never made an offer before March 16, when a four-month negotiating blackout between teams and their franchise players went into effect.
The Jets, perhaps wary of a long-term commitment, seem intent on having Abraham play next season on a one-year contract for the amount of his franchise tender ($6.7million) - unless they're blown away by a trade offer.
One of Abraham's agents, Rich Rosa, said he wasn't surprised to hear the Jets are being open-minded to the prospect of a trade. "They're just conducting business," said Rosa, adding that Abraham's preference is to remain with the Jets. "They'd be foolish not to see what's out there. Hey, maybe they could get what they want (by acquiring extra picks) and John could go to a place that would give him a long-term contract. We have no problem with them sending out feelers. Frankly, we're doing the same."
Rosa said there has been "minimal" contact with other teams. The Jets don't comment on trade speculation.
For a trade to happen, Abraham would have to work out a long-term contract with a team, and that team would have to satisfy the Jets' compensation demands. They almost certainly would insist on a first-round pick in return.
The most likely suitors are the Cowboys and Vikings. Both need an outside pass rusher, both have two first-round picks, both have about $9 million in salary-cap room and both have former Jets coaches - Dallas coach Bill Parcells and Minnesota defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell. The Cowboys have two prime bargaining chips (the 11th and 20th picks), although owner Jerry Jones said this week that he's more apt to stockpile picks instead of trading them away. The Vikings own the seventh and 18th selections.
It's not known whether the Jets have received any formal offers. While other franchise players have signed their one-year tenders, Abraham has balked, maintaining his free-agent status. Without a contract, he's not permitted to participate in the offseason program. According to his agents, Abraham is at home in South Carolina, working out with a trainer.
Source: Jets fielding offers for Abraham
BY RICH CIMINI
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER
Locked in a contract dispute with John Abraham - an impasse that shows signs of turning ugly - the Jets are willing to listen to trade offers for their star pass rusher, an NFL source told the Daily News yesterday.
This represents a shift for the Jets. A few days after the season, GM Terry Bradway said, "John is going to be here." But the landscape has changed.
Abraham, slapped with the "franchise" tag, is believed to be seeking about $20 million in guarantees and he recently expressed frustration through his agents about the lack of progress in negotiations. He's not participating in the Jets' offseason program, which began Monday. The Jets aren't actively shopping Abraham, the source said, but the difference between "shopping" and "listening" can be a matter of semantics. Abraham's status will add intrigue to the draft, which begins April 23.
Abraham, 26, is a three-time Pro Bowl selection, but his lack of durability is a concern. According to Abraham's camp, the Jets never made an offer before March 16, when a four-month negotiating blackout between teams and their franchise players went into effect.
The Jets, perhaps wary of a long-term commitment, seem intent on having Abraham play next season on a one-year contract for the amount of his franchise tender ($6.7million) - unless they're blown away by a trade offer.
One of Abraham's agents, Rich Rosa, said he wasn't surprised to hear the Jets are being open-minded to the prospect of a trade. "They're just conducting business," said Rosa, adding that Abraham's preference is to remain with the Jets. "They'd be foolish not to see what's out there. Hey, maybe they could get what they want (by acquiring extra picks) and John could go to a place that would give him a long-term contract. We have no problem with them sending out feelers. Frankly, we're doing the same."
Rosa said there has been "minimal" contact with other teams. The Jets don't comment on trade speculation.
For a trade to happen, Abraham would have to work out a long-term contract with a team, and that team would have to satisfy the Jets' compensation demands. They almost certainly would insist on a first-round pick in return.
The most likely suitors are the Cowboys and Vikings. Both need an outside pass rusher, both have two first-round picks, both have about $9 million in salary-cap room and both have former Jets coaches - Dallas coach Bill Parcells and Minnesota defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell. The Cowboys have two prime bargaining chips (the 11th and 20th picks), although owner Jerry Jones said this week that he's more apt to stockpile picks instead of trading them away. The Vikings own the seventh and 18th selections.
It's not known whether the Jets have received any formal offers. While other franchise players have signed their one-year tenders, Abraham has balked, maintaining his free-agent status. Without a contract, he's not permitted to participate in the offseason program. According to his agents, Abraham is at home in South Carolina, working out with a trainer.
RobSkins1 wrote:Its all hear say I would not put money on it but I have heard that we are looking to tade picks and 50/50 and that the Saints are looking and Darren Howard is out there for the picking I heard maybe a Trade with the Jets as well for Abraham and they get our pick and we get theres same deal as the other trade.
Where did you "hear" about Howard or Abraham even being CONNECTED to the Skins in any way?
None of the links posted mention the Skins and those 2 guys.
RobSkins1 wrote:Looking more like Abraham in the trade if it goes down.
Doesn't mention us in the article at all. We can't afford him, anyways.
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Yeah, not a chance the skins will even think about Abraham....(he's a great big player, but his wallet is a big one to fill)
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What???
RobSkins1 wrote:We dont have they money?? what about when get cut/trade 50/50 thats 2 mill right there we will have the money if we want him. The skins can make room we all know that
Which means we would still only about 3 or 4 mil in cap room.
4 million is still $2.6 million less than what Abraham is going to make in 2005, based on him being franchised.
And in another development, the Jets have officially notified the representatives for Pro Bowl defensive end John Abraham of their intention to place the franchise tag on him. Abraham will earn $6.66 million this season.
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