Terri Schiavo

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:23 am

General Failure wrote:BTP, you gonna take that from him?

No...

crazyhorse... please refrain from calling other posters names... that's what the smack forum is for ... you can attack the posts... not the posters... Thanks!

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:24 am

PS - anytime you want to hear about the pain... I'm bringing it...

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:10 pm

tazlah wrote: Oh, and we are not all idiots!

Well, speak for yourself, Taz

. . .some of us reserve the right to idiocy on the board (it can help explain many of our posts. . .)

tazlah · Post by **tazlah** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:34 pm

FanfromAnnapolis wrote:Well, speak for yourself, Taz . . .some of us reserve the right to idiocy on the board (it can help explain many of our posts. . .)

I took that into consideration FFA! That's why I said not ALL of us are idiots.

No worries, you can maintain your idiocy standings if you should so choose!

(but please continue to post non-idiocy stuff too, I like those as well!)

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:56 pm

This thread wasn't dead! Sure it wasn't moving and couldn't post for itself, but I clearly heard it say "don't kill me."

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:31 pm

It just needs someone to come along and post on it every few days or so, so that the bedsores don't get worse.

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:32 pm

you both are going to hell..... :lol:

General Failure · Post by **General Failure** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:35 pm

FanfromAnnapolis wrote:It just needs someone to come along and post on it every few days or so, so that the bedsores don't get worse.

And when nobody's looking, have sex with it.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:35 pm

FanfromAnnapolis wrote:It just needs someone to come along and post on it every few days or so, so that the bedsores don't get worse.

:lol: That has got to be one of THE most unexpected posts I'd ever read on this board. Borderline cruel, but funny and unexpected nonetheless. It certainly made me chuckle. :lol:

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:36 pm

What, too soon?

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:40 pm

FanfromAnnapolis wrote:What, too soon?

:shock: To have sex with it???!!!! My friend, what are you sayin'??? :hmm:

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:42 pm

Hey. . .you know, if I wasn't so confident in my unattraction to dead people, I'd take offense at that, Red.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:55 pm

FanfromAnnapolis wrote:Hey. . .you know, if I wasn't so confident in my unattraction to dead people, I'd take offense at that, Red.

Not to mention the fact that she's already been cremated and the remains are being held by armed guards at Michael Schiavo's crib. That makes it a little more difficult than you might even imagine. :lol:

Thanks for the laugh.

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:02 pm

they were talking about the thread... chester...

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:06 pm

BringThePain! wrote:they were talking about the thread... chester...

I know that. "She" (the thread) was a long one that long ago had been dead but was since revived.

What did you think I was talking about??? Ewwwww.... Mental picture.

Sick, BTP! Just sick. :puke:

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:08 pm

retarded

NikiH · Post by **NikiH** » Sun May 22, 2005 9:39 am

I hate to dig up an old post but I didn't see the point in starting a new one when this was already discussed in this thread.

A very interesting story about using stem cells to repair brain damage.

http://www.wusatv9.com/health/health_article.aspx?storyid=39826

welch · Post by **welch** » Tue May 24, 2005 10:01 pm

...and Joan Didion on Schiavo, in the current New York Review, online (for a little while, at least), at http://www.nybooks.com/articles/18050

Gibbs' Hog · Post by **Gibbs' Hog** » Wed May 25, 2005 10:52 am

NikiH wrote:I hate to dig up an old post but I didn't see the point in starting a new one when this was already discussed in this thread.

A very interesting story about using stem cells to repair brain damage.

http://www.wusatv9.com/health/health_article.aspx?storyid=39826

Isn't it ironic that the Bush administration fought so hard to save Schiavo's life, yet they adamently oppose stem cell research? What if the use of stem cells could have positively affected Schiavo's recovery efforts? Makes you think...

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed May 25, 2005 11:09 am

Gibbs' Hog wrote:Isn't it ironic that the Bush administration fought so hard to save Schiavo's life, yet they adamently oppose stem cell research? What if the use of stem cells could have positively affected Schiavo's recovery efforts? Makes you think...

I believe the administration adamently opposes/ed embryonic stem cell research.

Gibbs' Hog · Post by **Gibbs' Hog** » Wed May 25, 2005 12:32 pm

Tis true Redeemed, but the most promising research on finding a cure(s)/relief/recovery/etc. for many debilitating diseases comes from embryonic stem cell research. The debate on stem cells would not be hyped nearly as much if embryonic stem cells were excluded from the discussion. In fact, if you just add "embryonic" before "stem cell" in my last post, then I made my point.

Mind you, I have not revealed my 'position' on this issue - just trying to point out a little bit of irony.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Wed May 25, 2005 12:38 pm

Gibbs' Hog wrote:Tis true Redeemed, but the most promising research on finding a cure(s)/relief/recovery/etc. for many debilitating diseases comes from embryonic stem cell research. The debate on stem cells would not be hyped nearly as much if embryonic stem cells were excluded from the discussion. In fact, if you just add "embryonic" before "stem cell" in my last post, then I made my point.

Mind you, I have not revealed my 'position' on this issue - just trying to point out a little bit of irony.

You might also agree that embryonic stem cell research gets the most press versus regular stem cell research, not necessarily because of "more promise", because those with a hidden agenda make the most noise about it.

Gibbs' Hog · Post by **Gibbs' Hog** » Wed May 25, 2005 3:29 pm

I do agree with that. It is a valid point, and it is very true.

However, the issue also still remains:

...There are currently several limitations to using adult stem cells. Although many different kinds of multipotent stem cells have been identified, adult stem cells that could give rise to all cell and tissue types have not yet been found. Adult stem cells are often present in only minute quantities and can therefore be difficult to isolate and purify. There is also evidence that they may not have the same capacity to multiply as embryonic stem cells do. Finally, adult stem cells may contain more DNA abnormalities—caused by sunlight, toxins, and errors in making more DNA copies during the course of a lifetime. These potential weaknesses might limit the usefulness of adult stem cells.

http://stemcells.nih.gov/info/faqs.asp#besttype

But, to advocate the other side, we can also keep in mind that researchers have recently found evidence (via animal testing - it's also in the info above) to suggest that adult stem cells might have more flexibility than previously thought - good news for the ethical scientist.

But, suffice it to say that, currently, the benefits of embryonic stem cells outweigh those of adult stem cells. Food for thought.

EDIT: Well, not food...really bad unintentional pun :lol: