Whose Call Is It ?

[Brandon777]

http://biology.about.com/library/organs ... cortex.htm

Cerebral Cortex
Function:
• Determines Intelligence
• Determines Personality
• Interpretation of Sensory Impulses
• Motor Function
• Planning and Organization
• Touch Sensation

Well if her Cortex was liquid, she wouldn't follow objects with her eyes. She wouldn't smile when her mother kisses her. Her family also says that she lights up when they play music for her.

[cvillehog]

http://biology.about.com/library/organs/brain/blcortex.htm

Cerebral Cortex
Function:
• Determines Intelligence
• Determines Personality
• Interpretation of Sensory Impulses
• Motor Function
• Planning and Organization
• Touch Sensation

Well if her Cortex was liquid, she wouldn't follow objects with her eyes. She wouldn't smile when her mother kisses her. Her family also says that she lights up when they play music for her.

Those are reflexes! We've been over this already.

[Brandon777]

Those are reflexes! We've been over this already.

No we haven't. You said yourself you didn't know much about it. We did not go into detail about it. I said she smiles. You said it's a reflex. I said that was BS. You didn't respond. A reflex is when a baby grabs your finger or when a doctor hits your knee with that little rubber hammer and your leg kicks. She smiles when she is kissed. She smiles when they play music. How can following an object with her eyes be a reflex? She isn't being touched.

[cvillehog]

Those are reflexes! We've been over this already.

No we haven't. You said yourself you didn't know much about it. We did not go into detail about it. I said she smiles. You said it's a reflex. I said that was BS. You didn't respond. A reflex is when a baby grabs your finger or when a doctor hits your knee with that little rubber hammer and your leg kicks. She smiles when she is kissed. She smiles when they play music. How can following an object with her eyes be a reflex? She isn't being touched.

The tracking is called the Startle Reflex.

Why don't you do yourself a favor and read up on some of this instead of making ignorant comment after ignorant comment, and ignoring any response that discredits what you said.

[Irn-Bru]

FFA, ever heard the phrase "life, liberty and the persuit of happiness"?

(Sorry, left school and came home after writing). . .


cville, thanks for bringing that up, because that's exactly my point. It isn't "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. . . .and health care. . .", otherwise they could add in "food, sturdy housing, sufficient clothing, etc."

I'm not questioning her right to life. I'm questioning the use of the term in inappropriate ways in the debate, in the same way that I'd object to someone saying that unless I commit to giving them a sandwich every day I'm infringing on their right to life. A right to life is something that has existed as long as humans did, it doesn't change with technology. . .machines that do all the work for your living because your natural capacities for life have ceased entirely don't count under the term right to life.

[cvillehog]

FFA, ever heard the phrase "life, liberty and the persuit of happiness"?

(Sorry, left school and came home after writing). . .


cville, thanks for bringing that up, because that's exactly my point. It isn't "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. . . .and health care. . .", otherwise they could add in "food, sturdy housing, sufficient clothing, etc."

I'm not questioning her right to life. I'm questioning the use of the term in inappropriate ways in the debate, in the same way that I'd object to someone saying that unless I commit to giving them a sandwich every day I'm infringing on their right to life. A right to life is something that has existed as long as humans did, it doesn't change with technology. . .machines that do all the work for your living because your natural capacities for life have ceased entirely don't count under the term right to life.

I think you and I agree. Just wanted to be sure.

[cvillehog]

KEY EVENTS IN THE CASE OF THERESA MARIE SCHIAVO

[die cowboys die]

I'm not questioning her right to life. I'm questioning the use of the term in inappropriate ways in the debate, in the same way that I'd object to someone saying that unless I commit to giving them a sandwich every day I'm infringing on their right to life.

...so are you saying you won't give me that daily sandwich?

[Irn-Bru]

I'm not questioning her right to life. I'm questioning the use of the term in inappropriate ways in the debate, in the same way that I'd object to someone saying that unless I commit to giving them a sandwich every day I'm infringing on their right to life.

...so are you saying you won't give me that daily sandwich?

For a Skins fan, anything.


Just as long as the cops aren't arresting me when I don't. . .

[Brandon777]

The tracking is called the Startle Reflex.

Why don't you do yourself a favor and read up on some of this instead of making ignorant comment after ignorant comment, and ignoring any response that discredits what you said.

It's typical of you to start insulting people personally when you can't back up your argument.

[cvillehog]

The tracking is called the Startle Reflex.

Why don't you do yourself a favor and read up on some of this instead of making ignorant comment after ignorant comment, and ignoring any response that discredits what you said.

You're a joke. It's typical of you to start insulting people personally when you can't back up your argument. Loser.

Not insults, buddy. I've backed up my argument. You have ignored the facts.

[Brandon777]

http://members.aol.com/doder1/startle1.htm

Startle Reflex

Neuro term. 1. A sudden, involuntary movement made in response to a touch, an unexpected motion, or a loud noise. 2. A set of automatic protective movements designed to withdraw the body and its parts from harm.
Usage: Many defensive postures and submissive gestures (e.g., diverse movements of the shoulder-shrug display) derive from paleocircuits of the mammalian startle. Its status as a reflex explains why human beings (in all cultures) a. blink and grimace; b. flex the neck, elbows, trunk, and knees; and c. elevate the shoulders when feeling physically, emotionally, or socially threatened (Andermann and Andermann 1992:498).
Media. Eccentric twisting, plunging, blinking, and flexing spasms made from 1989-98 by Seinfeld TV character, Cosmo Kramer are typical of people with an exaggerated startle response. Increasing with anxiety and fatigue, the startle underlies such culturally recognized "startle syndromes" as Indonesian latah, Japanese imu, and Lapland's Lapp panic (Joseph and Saint-Hilaire 1992:487-88).
RESEARCH REPORTS: The startle reflex is related to the Moro or "clamping" reflex of young primates, which includes a. arm, leg, and spinal-column extension movements; b. head bowing (over the chest); and c. crying (McGraw 1943:19). Present in the human fetus after 30 weeks, the startle is predominantly a flexor reflex, possibly rooted in the primitive orienting response (Joseph and Saint-Hilaire 1992:487).
Neuro-notes. Sudden movements, looming objects, or bright lights trigger midbrain optic centers which automatically turn our faces and eyes toward what could be dangerous--before the forebrain knows, on a conscious level, danger even exists. The midbrain's auditory lobes, meanwhile, are reflexively attuned to changes in sound. Located just below the optic-center lobes, these pea-sized areas control our auditory startle. Picked up by the cochlear nucleus, a scream received by the auditory lobes triggers the amygdala and circuits of the reticulospinal tract to activate the startle. Thus, recoiling from a karate yell, e.g., is a primal response prompted by paleocircuits of the amphibian brain.
See also CHATTERING TEETH, FLEXION WITHDRAWAL.

I guess we should starve Kramer from Seinfeld. Also in reading this, I have come to the conclusion that in order to have "startle reflexes", one's brain has to be functioning.

[BossHog]

Actually Brandon... you're the only one who actually personally insulted a poster. Please edit your post or I will for you. And consider yourself formally warned.

I can lock this thread that has maintained civility... if it ceases to maintain civility.

[cvillehog]

What don't you understand about the fact that it is her cerebral cortex that is essentially gone?

Your posts have been filled with nothing but insults, uninformed opinions and unsupported conjecture and then you have the gall to accuse me of posting insults when I call a spade a spade?

ig·no·rant Audio pronunciation of "ignorant" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

[Brandon777]

Actually Brandon... you're the only one who actually personally insulted a poster. Please edit your post or I will for you. And consider yourself formally warned.

I can lock this thread that has maintained civility... if it ceases to maintain civility.

Sorry BossHog. When someone says quit making ignorant comment after ignorant comment, they are simply calling the person stupid. I guess I just get more to the point.

[cvillehog]

Actually Brandon... you're the only one who actually personally insulted a poster. Please edit your post or I will for you. And consider yourself formally warned.

I can lock this thread that has maintained civility... if it ceases to maintain civility.

Sorry BossHog. When someone says quit making ignorant comment after ignorant comment, they are simply calling the person stupid. I guess I just get more to the point.

See the definition of "ignorant" i posted above.

[Brandon777]

What don't you understand about the fact that it is her cerebral cortex that is essentially gone?

Your posts have been filled with nothing but insults, uninformed opinions and unsupported conjecture and then you have the gall to accuse me of posting insults when I call a spade a spade?

ig·no·rant Audio pronunciation of "ignorant" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gnr-nt)
adj.

1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

BossHog. How can the above post by cvillehog not be taken as an insult? And you cvillehog, you have dodged all of my points. I even looked up one of your arguments(startle reflexes) that you use to justify starving someone and it turns out it actually proved my point.

[cvillehog]

You've dodged all of my posts. I've responded to all of yours. Go back and look.

[tcwest10]

I'm humbled to be part of a community that can intelligently debate such a mind-bending topic as this.

[BossHog]

BossHog. How can the above post by cvillehog not be taken as an insult?

Because all of cvillehog's relate to your COMMENTS... not to you personally.

All cville has done is said that he thinks that your POSTS have been ignorant... not that you are ignorant.

You called HIM a loser, and a joke.

The latter is a paersonal attack and therefore a rule infraction, the former... is not.

[Brandon777]

Because all of cvillehog's relate to your COMMENTS... not to you personally.

All cville has done is said that he thinks that your POSTS have been ignorant... not that you are ignorant.

You called HIM a loser, and a joke.

The latter is a paersonal attack and therefore a rule infraction, the former... is not.

Sorry.

cvillehog, your COMMENTS are a JOKE. You have LOSER posts.

[BossHog]

Sorry.

cvillehog, your COMMENTS are a JOKE. You have LOSER posts.

I don't see the siilarity. All cville said was that he thought your posts were ignorant... you posted a definition yourself... all that means is that he feels your posts are uneducated or uninformed... i fail to see how 'loser' is anything but a personal attack on his character whether you put the word post after it or not.

All I see is a juvenile tantrum ending a good thread. Congratulations.

[Brandon777]

Sorry.

cvillehog, your COMMENTS are a JOKE. You have LOSER posts.

I don't see the siilarity. All cville said was that he thought your posts were ignorant... you posted a definition yourself... all that means is that he feels your posts are uneducated or uninformed... i fail to see how 'loser' is anything but a personal attack on his character whether you put the word post after it or not.

All I see is a juvenile tantrum ending a good thread. Congratulations.

siilarity Whatever. To each his own I guess.

[NikiH]

Back to the arguement. Just so everyone doesn't think I'm completely bonkers I've found some info on stem cell research and the possiblity that it could be used to regenerate brain tissue.

This week scientists reported experiments that may lead to the ability to restore damaged brain and spine tissue, results that have electrified the scientific community.

Here is the link http://www.txtwriter.com/Onscience/Articles/stemcells.html

[Primetime42]

Back to the arguement. Just so everyone doesn't think I'm completely bonkers I've found some info on stem cell research and the possiblity that it could be used to regenerate brain tissue.

This week scientists reported experiments that may lead to the ability to restore damaged brain and spine tissue, results that have electrified the scientific community.

Here is the link http://www.txtwriter.com/Onscience/Articles/stemcells.html

Yeah, but this is all speakin theoretically. This woman more than likely isn't going to live THAT long.