Redskins Trying To Acquire Darren Howard

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:53 pm

Redskins | Interested in Saints' Howard - from www.KFFL.com
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Jeff Duncan, of the New Orleans Times-Picayune, reports the Washington Redskins have engaged in trade talks with the New Orleans Saints about acquiring DE Darren Howard. Several other NFL teams have also expressed interest in acquiring Howard, the Saints' franchise player. The Saints are seeking a first-round draft pick or a starting defensive player in return for Howard.

While Dallas is considered the front-runner, Miami, Minnesota, Seattle, Washington and at least two other teams have engaged in trade talks with Saints officials in the past week. Oakland and Kansas City also have been mentioned as possible suitors, but an NFL source said Friday that neither is a candidate at this time.

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ss ... 199980.xml

I would love to acquire Howard but the asking price seems too steep for our front office. I think Howard wants a lot of money, too.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:57 pm

Hmmm... what could we offer them? Barrow? Bowen? Would we really trade our first rounder for him?

Hmmmm...

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:59 pm

The sources said the Cowboys are considering trading middle linebacker Dat Nguyen and a second-round pick in April's draft to New Orleans for Howard.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 9c114.html

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:01 pm

I don't know if I'd be willing to give up a starter on D or a first round pick to further improve upon a defense that was in the Top Three last year.
Signing a DE does not offset the loss of the MLB or CB.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:01 pm

Dang, I don't know if we can top that!

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:25 pm

trade Rod Gardner for him

Hill66 · Post by **Hill66** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 4:48 pm

They wouldn't take Rod for him. If we could somehow trade down for a later pick and maybe a 2nd rounder. We could trade the later 1st rounder for him.

Great Natale · Post by **Great Natale** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:47 pm

Can't afford him: Money wise and draft wise. With all those other teams with better cap situations we cannot compete.

To fix our DE problem we have to do it through the draft or to take a chance on a high risk/high return FA such as Courtney Brown.

fredp45 · Post by **fredp45** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:50 pm

I agree with you Great Natale -- pick a DE in the draft if that's what we need or try to get C Brown for Gardner...

RobSkins1 · Post by **RobSkins1** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:50 pm

we can do it, we have some cap room but, yeah he will be looking for alot of money. I think he would be a good pick up, he may take less money to play with the number 3 D but most likly not

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:58 pm

Courtney Brown is expensive too...he was a the Number 1 overall draft pick of 2000. Besides, he only has 17 sacks in 5 seasons, and has torn a ligament in his knee.

DaRealistJoka · Post by **DaRealistJoka** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:20 pm

I think CBrown would be a great pick up for our team,and less expensive than Howard.

WVskinsfan · Post by **WVskinsfan** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:26 pm

He'll probably want to much,and we don't need him.I say look towards the draft.

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:41 pm

I think Boss Hog said this on another thread... Courtney Brown must have a great deal of bonus money as his salary because of restructures... and Bonus money gets accelerated when a player's traded... we wouldn't pay any of that.

Besides, they would be releasing him soon anyway, we could get Courtney Brown for pretty cheap by dealing Gardner and then signing him to a pretty reasonable deal based on past performance.

It would be great to get another big talent for Williams to work with.

Hogfather · Post by **Hogfather** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 7:52 pm

Jake wrote:

While Dallas is considered the front-runner, Miami, Minnesota, Seattle, Washington and at least two other teams have engaged in trade talks with Saints officials in the past week. Oakland and Kansas City also have been mentioned as possible suitors, but an NFL source said Friday that neither is a candidate at this time.

I don't think we'll get him, he'll probably end up a Viking.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:09 pm

He could be ours if Lavar gives him a call... :wink:

Smithian · Post by **Smithian** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:13 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:He could be ours if Lavar gives him a call...

Don't get it... :oops:

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:17 pm

They were together at Penn State. Each one had a lot of respect for the other. They are still friends.

I like C. Brown. He 's had some real bad luck.

Redskins4Life · Post by **Redskins4Life** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:20 pm

Man I dont want Darren Howard. Too much money. We could find a better player anyway in the 3rd round

The Hogster · Post by **The Hogster** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:33 pm

We wouldn't have to pay his bonus this year, but he's in the last year of his rookie contract. If he plays well, which we hope he would, he would command big money next year so pick your poison. I don't think 17 sacks in 5 years is worth it IMO.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:44 pm

I read a crawl on ESPN that the Howard to the Cowboys deal was done. The Boyz gave the Saints Nguyn (sp) and a pick...

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:30 pm

Damnation!

Hopefully we can get Brown or someone

chicosbailbond · Post by **chicosbailbond** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:27 pm

Skinsfan55 wrote:It would be great to get another big talent for Williams to work with.

I wouldn't consider Courtney Brown a big talent...

Salvae is and noble are just fine... forget Court"knee" Brown.. that guy is a bonafide bust...

Rod Gardner will be part of a package on draft day...

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:49 pm

chicosbailbond wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:It would be great to get another big talent for Williams to work with.

I wouldn't consider Courtney Brown a big talent...

Salvae is and noble are just fine... forget Court"knee" Brown.. that guy is a bonafide bust...

Rod Gardner will be part of a package on draft day...

He's not a bust at all. He's been a monster when healthy. If anything, you can say he's injury prone. That I will grant you, but as somebody else mentioned, Phil Simms was injury prone his first 5 seasons as well. Brown would be a great to pick up on a low contract with high(unlikely to receive) incentiives. That way we don't overpay and he gets what he earns. Hopefully he would earn a lot ;-)

Skinsfan55 · Post by **Skinsfan55** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:02 pm

Edgerin James is okay... but we're all set with Samuels and Jansen!!

-Brown is a defensive end, Salave'a and Noble are defensive tackles...

chicosbailbond wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:It would be great to get another big talent for Williams to work with.

I wouldn't consider Courtney Brown a big talent...

Salvae is and noble are just fine... forget Court"knee" Brown.. that guy is a bonafide bust...

Rod Gardner will be part of a package on draft day...

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