Mock draft from HR

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:28 pm

http://www.hailredskins.com/Draft/AkhMock.htm

What do you all think about this one. I am not sure about it, but if he is what they say he is I think it's a good move. Wr is by far or most pressing need. None of the three Thrash, Mcants, or Jacobs has shown me they can start. Coles is a excellent No.2 but I am not sold on him as a no.1. I think that Gardner sucks. Getting a good No. 1 should be the top priority this offseason. Well center also. Those are I think the most pressing needs. Say what you want about De but Lavar will be back and that will and Clemons on the roster full time spot will increase our pass rush anyway. Mohammad is 32 and Plaxico I am not high on his inconsistency and work ethic. I think this mock draft also got us a second round pick also.

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:06 pm

I'd do that trade down stuff, but im not sure Troy would be their at the 29 pick.

ZF · Post by ZF » Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:49 pm

In regards to the second trade, why would we move down 5 slots in the first round to only obtain moving up 7 slots in the second round (from 24 to 29 in round 1, and 41 to 34 in round 2). First round picks are much more valuable than second round picks. You see teams trade away future first round picks to move up 5 slots in the first round so that move would not benefit us at all. What we need to do is stay at #9 and draft either Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards at that spot. If they are both gone then we should take Antrel Rolle if we lose Fred Smoot.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:09 pm

rod gardner is a wr who played college ball in south carolina(clemson). those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

ANT7088 · Post by **ANT7088** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:19 pm

What's a "deep screen" pass???? Does that not make sense or is it me????

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:03 pm

hailskins666 wrote::puke: rod gardner is a wr who played college ball in south carolina(clemson). those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

I would not hold Rod Gardner against every Wr that has ever played down south. This is just stupid

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:24 pm

John Manfreda wrote:
hailskins666 wrote::puke: rod gardner is a wr who played college ball in south carolina(clemson). those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

I would not hold Rod Gardner against every Wr that has ever played down south. This is just stupid

stupid is as stupid does. i didn't say "down south" i said SC. another WR from a SC college, get it? guess not, it's over your head.

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:50 pm

hailskins666 wrote:
John Manfreda wrote:
hailskins666 wrote::puke: rod gardner is a wr who played college ball in south carolina(clemson). those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

I would not hold Rod Gardner against every Wr that has ever played down south. This is just stupid
stupid is as stupid does. i didn't say "down south" i said SC. another WR from a SC college, get it? guess not, it's over your head.

So basically you thought Aman Green was gonna suck in the pro's because Lawernve Phillips was from Nerbraska also. Just man up to it. Or its likt saying I wouldn't have drafted Shaq because Stanely Roberts was another center from LSU in the same mold. NO your thought was stupid and childish. Just man up to it. Every player is different. NOt all players are the same. Even if they are in the same position.

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:53 pm

ZF wrote:In regards to the second trade, why would we move down 5 slots in the first round to only obtain moving up 7 slots in the second round (from 24 to 29 in round 1, and 41 to 34 in round 2). First round picks are much more valuable than second round picks. You see teams trade away future first round picks to move up 5 slots in the first round so that move would not benefit us at all. What we need to do is stay at #9 and draft either Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards at that spot. If they are both gone then we should take Antrel Rolle if we lose Fred Smoot.

I don't know this isn't my mock draft, I have never heard of this guy. I like the idea of getting a reviever and a second round pick.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:02 am

John Manfreda wrote:
hailskins666 wrote:
John Manfreda wrote:
hailskins666 wrote::puke: rod gardner is a wr who played college ball in south carolina(clemson). those who do not learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

I would not hold Rod Gardner against every Wr that has ever played down south. This is just stupid
stupid is as stupid does. i didn't say "down south" i said SC. another WR from a SC college, get it? guess not, it's over your head.

So basically you thought Aman Green was gonna suck in the pro's because Lawernve Phillips was from Nerbraska also. Just man up to it. Or its likt saying I wouldn't have drafted Shaq because Stanely Roberts was another center from LSU in the same mold. NO your thought was stupid and childish. Just man up to it. Every player is different. NOt all players are the same. Even if they are in the same position.

again, it's obviously over your head, and under my butt. perhaps you didn't even catch a hint of sarcasm in either of the above posts? or, perhaps, too narrow minded to take things with a grain of salt.

but yea, i man up to it, i'm stupid, and childish. i'll even put on my dunce hat again if it makes you feel any better....

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:02 am

Hailskins6666 if you think this guy sucks thats fine. I never seen him play or heard of him, but to say he won't be good without seeing him play because he went to college in south Carolina is stupid. If you seen him play and think he sucks tell me why.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:03 am

John Manfreda wrote:Hailskins6666 if you think this guy sucks thats fine. I never seen him play or heard of him, but to say he won't be good without seeing him play because he went to college in south Carolina is stupid. If you seen him play and think he sucks tell me why.

i would, but you might take it too seriously.

lets see. you defend him to an extent but don't even know who he is? ROTFALMAO

living in NC, i get to see a few SC games, and needless to say he didn't impress me. had a whooping total of 835 yds on the year. real impressive. ranked top 25 at best in the nation. his best stat is ypc. but yet i can't throw out a joke his way? please. do a little research, then spout your garbage. but like i said to begin with, it was a joke... SC/clemson WR in the first round, or do you still not get the joke? i give up.
maybe i'm just stupid. :shock:

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 12:57 am

hailskins666 wrote:
John Manfreda wrote:Hailskins6666 if you think this guy sucks thats fine. I never seen him play or heard of him, but to say he won't be good without seeing him play because he went to college in south Carolina is stupid. If you seen him play and think he sucks tell me why.
i would, but you might take it too seriously.

lets see. you defend him to an extent but don't even know who he is?

living in NC, i get to see a few SC games, and needless to say he didn't impress me. had a whooping total of 835 yds on the year. real impressive. ranked top 25 at best in the nation. his best stat is ypc. but yet i can't throw out a joke his way? please. do a little research, then spout your garbage. but like i said to begin with, it was a joke... SC/clemson WR in the first round, or do you still not get the joke? i give up.
maybe i'm just stupid.

If you didn't think he was any good thats fine. I just wouldn't base something off another player in a different and a completely different league. The ACC in football a joke beside UM, VT, and FSU. I know you said it said it was a joke I can't tell by reading something. All words are the same, talking there different tones but when one reads they all sound the same. SC is in the SEC a legit confrence. He sounds good but I don't know, I never seen him play. If he sucks than I am against it. Physically what does he lack or is it mental. Because Roy Williams wasn't good his last year in college but he did pretty well this year for Detriot. The reason his numbers weren't good his last year in college is because he had a crappy Qb throwing to him. Fitzgerald had great numbers and he sucked this year. Telling me people's numbers doesn't convince me of anything.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:01 am

I get what you're saying Big John - no trouble here bro. I hope poeple don't shy away from Benson because of Ricky Williams! It would be their mistake.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:18 am

durrr. me stooopid.

ok. fine. you didn't get it from the way i worded it. my bad. maybe i should have thrown a smiley in there. i never said he sucked. i never said gardner sucked in this thread either. all i said is a WR from a SC college, then the saying of those who don't learn from their past are doomed to repeat it. i thought that was enough. it's just like sayin i'm skeptical of drafting heath miller because i don't wnat to risk it on anymore "heaths". :shock:

obviously you can't judge a guy by his name or school, but from now on, i'll stop making my stupid, childish jokes, hopefully to benefit the rest of the board.

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:47 am

When I said I know you meant it as a joke. I meant I know now, not when I first read it. When I first read it I didn't think it was a joke I thought you were serious. I am sorry, if I knew it was a joke I wouldn't have said anything. No harm everything is cool.

John Manfreda · Post by **John Manfreda** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:50 am

Scooter wrote:I get what you're saying Big John - no trouble here bro. I hope poeple don't shy away from Benson because of Ricky Williams! It would be their mistake.

I don't think they will he will be a real star. If there was no cap, I would trade Portis and get him. But we invested money in Portis so they have to make it work with Portis.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:03 pm

John Manfreda wrote:When I said I know you meant it as a joke. I meant I know now, not when I first read it. When I first read it I didn't think it was a joke I thought you were serious. I am sorry, if I knew it was a joke I wouldn't have said anything. No harm everything is cool.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:23 pm

And EVERYBODY is smiling :0)

Wysocki · Post by **Wysocki** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:55 pm

666, let me buy you a beer - c'mon up to Maryland and we'll hoist a few Carlings or Natty Bo's that I've been saving...good Maryland beers - because when you've tasted one beer you've tasted them all!

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:00 pm

great here we go again....... :lol:

no thanks, i don't drink honey brown. :shock:

Wysocki · Post by **Wysocki** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:10 pm

I don't drink New Castle...

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:12 pm

what about the hard stuff? seems we can't come to an agreement on brews.... hennessy, or tequilla?

Wysocki · Post by **Wysocki** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:13 pm

Hennessy...but I like Henry McKenna from my WVU days...

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:14 pm

cool. it's on then. :hmm:

what were we talking about again?