Ohalete .vs. Portis

rick301 · Post by **rick301** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:43 am

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/ny-sphorn164116959jan16,0,5615476.story?coll=ny-basketball-headlines

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When Clinton Portis joined the Washington Redskins from the Denver Broncos before this season, he wanted jersey No. 26, his number in Denver. During training camp, he agreed to pay safety Ifeanyi Ohalete $40,000 to give up the number.

Ohalete ended up with the Arizona Cardinals after being cut by the Redskins and Portis, who got a $50.5-million contract with the Redskins, never paid him the $40,000. Ohalete, who has filed a lawsuit against Portis, learned that sometimes it doesn't pay to give someone the shirt off your back. - AP
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DieselFan · Post by **DieselFan** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:30 am

Portis needs to pay up. A deal is a deal. Your word is worth more than bickering over semantics. Portis looks stupid in all of this. $40K to him is like $10 to everyone else...and I know I'm not going to let my integrity get challenged over $10...

OldSkoolSkin · Post by **OldSkoolSkin** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:16 am

I agree. Clint should pay up and bury this issue. This horse is officially DEAD! :!:

skins81 · Post by **skins81** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:31 am

I thought I remember it was for 40K as well as visiting Portis house for some vacation time or something? Anyone remember this? My guess is there will be no friendly visits upcoming.

I thought it was also that he paid him 20K and still owed him 20K. Either way, he has to step up and do the right thing. Pay that man his money.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:44 pm

Portis shouldn't pay jack. The guy didn't make the team. Its a MOOT point.

DieselFan · Post by **DieselFan** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:03 pm

riggofan wrote:Portis shouldn't pay jack. The guy didn't make the team. Its a MOOT point.

I'd question your logic on that one. Unless is was spelled out that if Ohalete didn't make the team, that Portis wouldn't pay...the Portis needs to pay up. A verbal agreement is just as binding as a written one (in theory).

And do you really think they made a provision that if Ohalete didn't make the team, the deal was void? Of course not...no one expected Iffy to get cut and, besides, if Portis though that was probable...he would have just waited for him to get cut. Every valid contract has 6 elements (offer, acceptance, mutual assurance, capacity, consideration and legality)...and all elements were satisfied.

Conclusion: Legally Portis should pay up, Ethically Portis should pay up. There's guys in New York (Tony Soprano types) that rough up guys like Portis when they welch on what's owed. It's Portis that looks S-T-U-P-I-D in all of this.

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:16 pm

riggofan wrote:Portis shouldn't pay jack. The guy didn't make the team. Its a MOOT point.

So, if I bought your car and on the way home I crashed it...I could cancel the check and not pay you "jack"?

A deal is a deal. This rule goes back to the stone age.
Portis should pay up before he gets a boulder dropped on his dome piece.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 4:54 pm

oafusp wrote:
riggofan wrote:Portis shouldn't pay jack. The guy didn't make the team. Its a MOOT point.

So, if I bought your car and on the way home I crashed it...I could cancel the check and not pay you "jack"?

A deal is a deal. This rule goes back to the stone age.
Portis should pay up before he gets a boulder dropped on his dome piece.

Bad analogy.

However, if agreed to sell me your car, and gave it to me, then later it came to light that you don't actually own it, I certainly wouldn't pay you.

It wasn't Iffy's number to give!

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:19 pm

cvillehog wrote:
oafusp wrote:
riggofan wrote:Portis shouldn't pay jack. The guy didn't make the team. Its a MOOT point.

So, if I bought your car and on the way home I crashed it...I could cancel the check and not pay you "jack"?

A deal is a deal. This rule goes back to the stone age.
Portis should pay up before he gets a boulder dropped on his dome piece.

Bad analogy.

However, if agreed to sell me your car, and gave it to me, then later it came to light that you don't actually own it, I certainly wouldn't pay you.

It wasn't Iffy's number to give!

for once CVille and I agree!

oafusp · Post by **oafusp** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:50 pm

cvillehog wrote:
oafusp wrote:
riggofan wrote:Portis shouldn't pay jack. The guy didn't make the team. Its a MOOT point.

So, if I bought your car and on the way home I crashed it...I could cancel the check and not pay you "jack"?

A deal is a deal. This rule goes back to the stone age.
Portis should pay up before he gets a boulder dropped on his dome piece.

Bad analogy.

However, if agreed to sell me your car, and gave it to me, then later it came to light that you don't actually own it, I certainly wouldn't pay you.

It wasn't Iffy's number to give!

How about this...

If I paid you 10 bucks to bang your mom, and she was horrible, would you give me my money back?

DCGloryYears828791 · Post by **DCGloryYears828791** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:18 pm

Maybe Clinton will go ask Randy Moss what to tell the reporters about the $20k. The response would prob be something to the extent of "You can tell Iffy ill give him his ****** money cuz $20K aint **** to me and ................................" Then we could have our own Moss personality to deal with. I gotta agree with the minority on this one. The guy got cut. It was no longer his number to give out. He got half he should be happy with that. Doesn't this make you wonder if the guys in Arizona wanna beat Iffy up for suing a fellow nfl player? After all what is 20K to an NFL player? Latrell Sprewell has to feed his kids! The money should go to him.

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:20 pm

portis should pay him a deal is a deal.
potis is also stupid on his side he could have waited a little longer and saved his 40k

Clinton Portis · Post by **Clinton Portis** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:26 pm

He got cut.

That 40,000 is deadddd money. :lol:

1fan4ramsey · Post by **1fan4ramsey** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:54 pm

Pay Iffy the money, it's the right thing to do!!!

redskincity · Post by **redskincity** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 3:05 pm

If he didnt owned the rights to the number, is it his?

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:07 pm

redskincity wrote:If he didnt owned the rights to the number, is it his?

He owned the rights at the time of the deal.
Portis should pay up and then be done with it, he could have waited until the season started to see what numbers were available and save 40K

C'fieldSkin · Post by **C'fieldSkin** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:20 pm

Iffy shouldn't have stunk it up with his bad attitude and got cut, then he might be 40,000 richer and Williams would have made him look good.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:50 pm

1niksder wrote:He owned the rights at the time of the deal.

Did he?

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:58 pm

cvillehog wrote:
1niksder wrote:He owned the rights at the time of the deal.

Did he?

He was a vet and came into camp with the number.

If he didn't then why did Portis make a deal to pay him for it if it wasn't his

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:19 pm

oafusp wrote:If I paid you 10 bucks to bang your mom, and she was horrible, would you give me my money back?

You bastich ! You told me $15 !! ROTFALMAO

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:40 pm

1niksder wrote:
cvillehog wrote:
1niksder wrote:He owned the rights at the time of the deal.

Did he?

He was a vet and came into camp with the number.

If he didn't then why did Portis make a deal to pay him for it if it wasn't his

I think you are splitting hairs. But then again, so am I.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:46 pm

Good ! When you're done, you'll have twice as many hairs !
Don't laugh. You might need 'em in a couple of years if we don't get better as a team !!

Texas Hog · Post by **Texas Hog** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:48 pm

Iffy should have gotten the entire $40k up front (not that I believe he had rights to the #)....why the hell would you put a multi-millionaire on the easy payment plan anyhow?

DCGloryYears828791 · Post by **DCGloryYears828791** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:02 pm

If i was brought into a company and i bought a red stapler from a coworker who had worked at the company for a while, told the co worker id pay him 4 dollars for the stapler, 2 this week and 2 next week and then he got fired on the weekend do i still owe him the 2 dollars? Or do I figure out why i need to spread a 4 dollar payment over 2 weeks?

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"If they take my stapler they will be sorry, I will burn this place"

Sorry to all who don't know where i got this from.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:07 pm

DCGloryYears828791 wrote:If i was brought into a company and i bought a red stapler from a coworker who had worked at the company for a while, told the co worker id pay him 4 dollars for the stapler, 2 this week and 2 next week and then he got fired on the weekend do i still owe him the 2 dollars? Or do I figure out why i need to spread a 4 dollar payment over 2 weeks?

Was he fired for trafficing in company office supplies?