Portis-Bailey trade analysis

hkHog · Post by **hkHog** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:39 pm

Haha, saw this on ESPN's Page 2's Snap Judgement. Patrick Hruby's answer to best throw of the week:

Manning's play-action touchdown toss to Dallas Clark, dropped in between three defenders. So much for that upgraded Broncos secondary; if the season was any indication, they should have dealt Clinton Portis for the rest of Washington's defense.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:45 pm

Ouch! This is going to come on more often than not in the media in the weeks and months to come.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:01 am

I almost didn't look at this topic, due to the subject. I took a chance, and I'm glad. Nice catch !

andyUSCman3 · Post by **andyUSCman3** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:35 am

bailey better not read this or he'll have to think of more exucses to dish out..

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:38 am

Funny thing is, they could have taken the rest of our defense and Williams would still have had a top-5 unit. Were any commentators talking up Pierce, Clemmons, Clark, or Warner before the season started?

andyUSCman3 · Post by **andyUSCman3** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:06 am

dont forget demetric evans and john salavae(i cant spell his name).

ii7-V7 · Post by **ii7-V7** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:12 am

andyUSCman3 wrote:dont forget demetric evans and john salavae(i cant spell his name).

Yeah, Joe can be tough to spell sometimes.............

Chad

BringThePain! · Post by **BringThePain!** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:38 am

chaddukes wrote:
andyUSCman3 wrote:dont forget demetric evans and john salavae(i cant spell his name).

Yeah, Joe can be tough to spell sometimes.............

Chad

JPFair · Post by **JPFair** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:56 am

Don't you need one of those little squiggly things to be able to correctly type Salavea?

RagingRigginz · Post by **RagingRigginz** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:22 am

JPFair wrote:Don't you need one of those little squiggly things to be able to correctly type Salavea?

no the squiggly thing, or tilde (sp) would go over an 'n', you have to use an accent to spell his name

DESkins · Post by **DESkins** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:28 pm

I didn't know that there was an "n" in Joe... but then again, I went to public school. Back on topic, though, I've noticed that Champ got burned an awful lot this past season, I wonder if it's simply a case of his level of play slipping, or a difference in the defensive scheme between Washington and Denver (although with the "defensive scheme" the last two years that Champ was here, it's hard to see that his game would have deteriorated in going to Denver).

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:09 pm

DESkins wrote:Back on topic, though, I've noticed that Champ got burned an awful lot this past season, I wonder if it's simply a case of his level of play slipping, or a difference in the defensive scheme between Washington and Denver (although with the "defensive scheme" the last two years that Champ was here, it's hard to see that his game would have deteriorated in going to Denver).

I think you're right. Champ didn't so much get burned in Washington as get told to play that soft prevent defense starting midway through the third quarter. . .but you have to admit that there were plenty of highlight clips of his ankles getting broken in primetime games this year.

Redskins2k5 · Post by **Redskins2k5** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:27 pm

The Trade was awesome.

joebagadonuts · Post by **joebagadonuts** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:26 pm

but champ is rich now. what else matters....?

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:18 pm

Super Bowl Rings matter to most players. I don't see the Broncos any closer than the Redskins. In fact, I think we're moving the right direction. Can't say the same for the Broncos - Champ or, no champ.

washington53 · Post by **washington53** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:31 pm

Manning's play-action touchdown toss to Dallas Clark, dropped in between three defenders. So much for that upgraded Broncos secondary; if the season was any indication, they should have dealt Clinton Portis for the rest of Washington's defense.

ouch that musta hurt, i dont want baily to start makin excuses now

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:53 pm

The cover corner is about to be devalued in a big way anyway. It's good we made this trade whne we did. The no-contact rules are really making the position all but obsolete.
Eventually, there will be no defense on the field at all. It'll just be a bunch of guys playing catch; whoever scores last wins.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:58 pm

tcwest10 wrote:The cover corner is about to be devalued in a big way anyway. It's good we made this trade whne we did. The no-contact rules are really making the position all but obsolete.
Eventually, there will be no defense on the field at all. It'll just be a bunch of guys playing catch; whoever scores last wins.

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Pretty mucvh. I find it ironic how the NFL is saying they're trying to preserve the game by making fining everyone and at the same time they're making the game too vanilla.

I predict in 20 years football will no longer be tackle but two hand touch.

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:02 am

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I predict in 20 years football will no longer be tackle but two hand touch.

... And they will discover it as a flag game... :shock:

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:03 am

Scooter wrote:Super Bowl Rings matter to most players. I don't see the Broncos any closer than the Redskins. In fact, I think we're moving the right direction. Can't say the same for the Broncos - Champ or, no champ.

Shanahan has -one- tough offseason to go through if does at all...

Redskins2k5 · Post by **Redskins2k5** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:33 pm

Listen werejust as close to a ring then the Broncos are. Even though they went to the playoffs it doesn't matter. The trade was great for the Redskins.

DCGloryYears828791 · Post by **DCGloryYears828791** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:33 pm

Did anybody see Reggie Wayne drop 221 or 90 the week before that, or Kennison 101, Jerry Porter 135,Stallworth 122, Chad Johnson 149, K. Colbert 115,M. Clayton 90,Kennison another 101. Ok now somebody tell me that he gave up those numbers here, secondly what in God's name did he exactly SHUT DOWN this year as the best shut down corner and number three is just simply stated, I WOULD HAVE MADE THAT TRADE 50 TIMES OVER.

Hmmmmmm............Leading rusher last year for us was......

Trung "I really don't know what i had in St.Louis" Candidate
at 600 and something yards.

This year...........................

Clinton and 1350 something. Yeah, Denver can have Champ and Fred if he'd like to go join his buddy out there. Maybe they can combine to stop Peyton for 2 quarters next year.

Fred and Champ need to stop watching Jerry McGuire! It aint all about show me the money!
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NC43Hog · Post by **NC43Hog** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:38 pm

Welcome Glory Years - Off Topic - love your sig.

hkHog · Post by **hkHog** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:07 pm

DCGloryYears828791 wrote:Did anybody see Reggie Wayne drop 221 or 90 the week before that, or Kennison 101, Jerry Porter 135,Stallworth 122, Chad Johnson 149, K. Colbert 115,M. Clayton 90,Kennison another 101. Ok now somebody tell me that he gave up those numbers here, secondly what in God's name did he exactly SHUT DOWN this year as the best shut down corner and number three is just simply stated, I WOULD HAVE MADE THAT TRADE 50 TIMES OVER.

Hmmmmmm............Leading rusher last year for us was......

Trung "I really don't know what i had in St.Louis" Candidate
at 600 and something yards.

This year...........................

Clinton and 1350 something. Yeah, Denver can have Champ and Fred if he'd like to go join his buddy out there. Maybe they can combine to stop Peyton for 2 quarters next year.

Fred and Champ need to stop watching Jerry McGuire! It aint all about show me the money!

Great post! That's exactly what I feel!