Who exactly are these "core" Redskins we are always hearing about? I've tried to make my own list of who I think they are/should be. Interested to see who everyone else thinks should be or shouldn't be on this list.
Offense
QB Patrick Ramsey
RB Clinton Portis
HB Chris ey
LT Chris Samuels
RG Randy Thomas
RT Jon Jansen
WR Laveranues Coles
Defense
DT Cornelius Griffin
OLB Marcus Washington
MLB Antonio Pierce
OLB LaVar Arrington
CB Shawn Springs
CB Fred Smoot
FS Sean Taylor
This is just a preliminary list. Who do you think needs to be added to it? Do you think any of these guys shouldnt be there?
R.I.P. Christopher Wallace (May 21, 1972 - March 9, 1997)
R.I.P. Sean Taylor (April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007)
Brandon Noble needs to be added to that list. In an article I read recently Joe Bugel says that Noble is the kind of player Gibbs likes to build around. He has heart and courage and never stops. He needs to be on any list.
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Flanders: "Looks like someone is having a pre-rapture party!"
Homer: "No Flanders, it's a meeting of gay witches for abortion , you wouldn't be interested!"
Ok who the heck is Rod Tidwell?? I agree on Thrash. And it may be a little early but that return guy Brown showed he could earn a spot on the list if he consistantly handles things like he did on Sunday.
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My favortie line from the Simpsons:
Flanders: "Looks like someone is having a pre-rapture party!"
Homer: "No Flanders, it's a meeting of gay witches for abortion , you wouldn't be interested!"
Mr. Samuels, Mr. Smoot, and Mr. Coles are all great cadidates for removal from that list....Smoot's leaving, Coles apparently can't catch a cold in a freezer, and Samuels seems to have forgotten he plays football-on Sundays-for the Redskins....
McCants or Jacobs would be good additions, along of course, with Thrash.
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Great thread topic JPM. I actually think we Gibbs talks about "core" Redskins...he's actually only talking about 2 or 3 individuals on each side of the ball and a Special Teamer or two....and basically, what you've listed about is 7 out of 11 on each side of the ball... Also, if you look at past "core" Redskins...they were not necessarily the best players...just solid, worthy performers that showed up for work each and every day and set the tone for the team...
So here's my 2 cents:
"Core" Redskins on Offense:
Clinton Portis
Laverneous Coles
Jon Jansen
"Core" Redskins on Defense:
Lavar Arrington
Brandon Noble
Marcus Washington
CornGriff (my new nickname for him...hope it catches on)
"Core" Misc/Special Teams
Antonio Pierce
James Thrash
You guys will probably kill me on this for leaving off some players...but, keep in mind...a core is just that...a small central group that holds the whole thing together.
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I like your list Diesel but I'd remove Coles and add ey. Jackson has nicknamed Griffin "Corny" all though I'm not sure he'd approve. LOL I've caught on to his nickname.
Whenever I start to get blue, I just breathe!
My favortie line from the Simpsons:
Flanders: "Looks like someone is having a pre-rapture party!"
Homer: "No Flanders, it's a meeting of gay witches for abortion , you wouldn't be interested!"
NikiH wrote:I like your list Diesel but I'd remove Coles and add ey. Jackson has nicknamed Griffin "Corny" all though I'm not sure he'd approve. LOL I've caught on to his nickname.
I'm cool with that...I was really hesitant w/Coles and Portis...so...revision: ey in/Coles out
"I've got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell."
I disagree with people saying Coles isn't a core Redskin. He is a consistently solid performer who plays through pain.
I really hope Smoot is back here next year. He is one of my favorite Redskins and theres no way we wouldve had the #1 Defense in the NFC without the coverage skills of him and Springs.
Noble is an interesting pick.
Another interesting note: 6 of the players I listed were not on the 2003 team: Taylor, ey, Washington, Griffin, Springs, and Portis.
Hopefully our #9 pick can lead to another "Core Redskin"
R.I.P. Christopher Wallace (May 21, 1972 - March 9, 1997)
R.I.P. Sean Taylor (April 1, 1983 - November 27, 2007)
QB Patrick Ramsey
RB Clinton Portis
TE Robert Royal
HB Chris ey
LT Chris Samuels
RT Ray Brown (for some reason Gibbs loves him)
RG Randy Thomas
RT Jon Jansen
WR/KR James Thrash
WR Taylor Jacobs
WR Laveranues Coles
Defense
DT Cornelius Griffin
OLB Marcus Washington
MLB Antonio Pierce
OLB Lamar Marshall
OLB LaVar Arrington
CB Shawn Springs
SS Matt Bowen
FS Sean Taylor
P Tom Tupa
LS Ethan Albright
Almost There
WR/KR Antonio Brown
OG Derrick Dockery
CB Fred Smoot
DE Demetirus Evans
DE Ron Warner
DT Joe Salave'a
SS Ryan Clark
RB Ladell Betts
RB Rock Cartwright
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While Portis did rack up over 1300 yards this year, I still question his devotion to his coaches and teammates. He's a wonderful talent but still comes across sometimes with a me-first type of attitude.
Obviously he will be a Redskin for many years to come, but I'd just like to be reassured that he has bought into Coach Gibbs' system and trusts that this team is progressing.
But again, he had a really good year and I guess I should just be thankful...beggers can't be choosers.
WR/KR Antonio Brown OG Derrick Dockery CB Fred Smoot DE Demetirus Evans DE Ron Warner DT Joe Salave'a SS Ryan Clark RB Ladell Betts RB Rock Cartwright
i think some of these players will move up and become true core players replacing some of the players people think are core players now... it is going to be very interesting....
my vote is
Joe Salave
Ron Warner....
I really like these players... they hustle and seem to have drive....
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QB Patrick Ramsey RB Clinton Portis TE Robert Royal HB Chris ey LT Chris Samuels RT Ray Brown (for some reason Gibbs loves him) RG Randy Thomas RT Jon Jansen WR/KR James Thrash WR Taylor Jacobs WR Laveranues Coles
Defense
DT Cornelius Griffin OLB Marcus Washington MLB Antonio Pierce OLB Lamar Marshall OLB LaVar Arrington CB Shawn Springs SS Matt Bowen FS Sean Taylor P Tom Tupa LS Ethan Albright
Almost There
WR/KR Antonio Brown OG Derrick Dockery CB Fred Smoot DE Demetirus Evans DE Ron Warner DT Joe Salave'a SS Ryan Clark RB Ladell Betts RB Rock Cartwright
That's the whole friggin' team. The only one you've left off is Ade Jimoh... Again...I stress the "core" players.
"I've got a fever. And the only prescription is more cowbell."
I agree with a lot of your comments. On defense, I would also add Matt Bowen.
So....
On Defense:
Griffin
Arrington
Washington
Bowen
Pierce
[I'm not sold on Smoot because he appears to be demanding top 5 money when he isn't even a top 10 CB. He'll be gone by next year because of that. Sean Taylor is too immature right now to be a "core Redskin". Perhaps next year.]
On Offense:
Ramsey
Thrash
Coles
Jansen
ey
[I'm not sold on Portis just yet. Yes, he's a talent...but "core Redskin"? I just dunno yet.]
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ey
he had 90 catches this season... he's only the third Redskin ever to have that many... 
