Official Gameday Thread Redskins @ Dallas

Cooley47 · Post by **Cooley47** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:43 pm

Seattle TD....damnet!!!!

darkwing99 · Post by **darkwing99** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:43 pm

Julius jones currently tearing up our defense. Like 8 to 9 yard rushes.Even CP can't do that....Oh bother

Definitiveskinjux- · Post by **Definitiveskinjux-** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:44 pm

Taylor is sick!!!!!

goejibbs · Post by **goejibbs** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:45 pm

why is our D playing so badly .. execpt for taylor hes all over the place

dnpmakkah · Post by **dnpmakkah** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:45 pm

Chris Luva Luva wrote:The man had two INTs that are arguable as to whether or not they were his fault.

Kawasaki should have caught that one pass.

Coles stumbled and that was a timing route so the ball has to be there regardless.

Not really, because the second one was his fault. He was being pressured and should of thrown the ball away, and NOT into coverage. Because if you through it into coverage and the player is doubled then more than likely it will get intercepted. That is not the receivers fault as a quaterback it is your job to protect the ball and not toss it up for grabs while being rushed.

Definitiveskinjux- · Post by **Definitiveskinjux-** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:46 pm

Smart play by our defense

darkwing99 · Post by **darkwing99** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:47 pm

as usual the defense gives the offense a chance again...
Oh brother, where art thou offense?

goejibbs · Post by **goejibbs** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:47 pm

better be some damn good redskin speaches durring the half

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:47 pm

he didn't throw it into double coverage. It was single coverage and Coles slipped.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:47 pm

dnpmakkah wrote:
Chris Luva Luva wrote:The man had two INTs that are arguable as to whether or not they were his fault.

Kawasaki should have caught that one pass.

Coles stumbled and that was a timing route so the ball has to be there regardless.

Not really, because the second one was his fault. He was being pressured and should of thrown the ball away, and NOT into coverage. Because if you through it into coverage and the player is doubled then more than likely it will get intercepted. That is not the receivers fault as a quaterback it is your job to protect the ball and not toss it up for grabs.

I don't remeber seeing Coles covered, the ball was where it should have been regardless of the pressure. Coles stumbled and was out of position, and since it was a timing route and looked to be a hook route Ramsey has to throw the ball and hope the WR is in position.

Like I said its arguable.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:48 pm

Scottskins wrote:he didn't throw it into double coverage. It was single coverage and Coles slipped.

Thank you.

Some of you guys are so quick to turn on a player.

FiveWidez · Post by **FiveWidez** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:48 pm

As for Ramsey's first INT, sure it should have been caught. But his throw had no touch on it whatsoever. I am a Ramsey fan but he has yet to show me he has the touch or the mentality to lead this team where I want to see them go. I hope he can though.

dnpmakkah · Post by **dnpmakkah** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:53 pm

FiveWidez wrote:As for Ramsey's first INT, sure it should have been caught. But his throw had no touch on it whatsoever. I am a Ramsey fan but he has yet to show me he has the touch or the mentality to lead this team where I want to see them go. I hope he can though.

Thank you, thats what I'm trying to say. We can't keep making excuses for him. This is his 3rd year and we use the same excuse for his mistakes.

Perfect scenario would be that Ramsey turns out to be great and we keep him as our future. But good/great quaterbacks don't continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

Some people just don't realize that some player just aren't cutting it. I mean he's arguablly the best QB on our team but thats about it.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:53 pm

FiveWidez wrote:As for Ramsey's first INT, sure it should have been caught. But his throw had no touch on it whatsoever. I am a Ramsey fan but he has yet to show me he has the touch or the mentality to lead this team where I want to see them go. I hope he can though.

WHAT?!?!

Touch? LMAO! The WR did not make the catch! The ball hit him in the hands. What more do you want Patrick to do?

Ok, next week lets see if Patrick can throw the ball really high, run down the field and make the catch too. Lets seem him not get a facemask when he stiff arms the defenders too. Also lets put him on the offensive line and ACTUALLY MAKE A HOLE, and at the RB position and run it in for a TD all at ONE TIME! :roll:

Champsturf · Post by **Champsturf** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:54 pm

FiveWidez wrote:As for Ramsey's first INT, sure it should have been caught. But his throw had no touch on it whatsoever. I am a Ramsey fan but he has yet to show me he has the touch or the mentality to lead this team where I want to see them go. I hope he can though.

Nice to see we are all so positive. Looks like a bunch of bandwagoners here. I know that ChrisLL and myself stick to our guns. Ramsey is a good QB. He's no Elway, but very capable of taking us where we want to go. There is NO way those INTs were his fault. Get off the guy and let him play!

Frankly, I would like to see if our second ranked D is going to make it to Texaas Stadium today. They did know the game started at 4:15 ET, right?

And when is our OLine going to block so that Portis can run more than 4 yards????

In other words, stay the F off Ramsey's back. This is a team game last I knew and and least I'm picking on entire sections of the team, not any individuals.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:55 pm

I don't care what anyone says, I played WR in highschool and if the ball touches your hands you are EXPECTED to make the catch.

If you can't catch and you're a WR then you are worthless to the team.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:58 pm

ramsey is not having a good game. not that i blame him for the int's. but no one is stepping up on offense. ramsey looks a little shakey today.(still da man though, even favre has a bad game every now and then)

OH, AND THE OFFENSIVE LINE IS TRULY THAT, FARGIN OFFENSIVE. THEY SUCK. ;furious;

WTF?

biggest under-achiever of thr year.... joe bugel. we were able to be this bad with spurrier/helton. :puke:

FiveWidez · Post by **FiveWidez** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:59 pm

You guys are too defensive. I never said it was Ramsey's fault this team is inept. Truthfully, I am pretty sure we would be in the playoffs had he started all year. Bottomline, whoever your quarterback is, he is gonna be the most scrutinized player on the field. Not enough credit when they win, and too much when they lose. Thats just the way it is. He will learn to deal with it and so should you.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:00 pm

dnpmakkah wrote:
FiveWidez wrote:As for Ramsey's first INT, sure it should have been caught. But his throw had no touch on it whatsoever. I am a Ramsey fan but he has yet to show me he has the touch or the mentality to lead this team where I want to see them go. I hope he can though.

Thank you, thats what I'm trying to say. We can't keep making excuses for him. This is his 3rd year and we use the same excuse for his mistakes.

Perfect scenario would be that Ramsey turns out to be great and we keep him as our future. But good/great quaterbacks don't continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

Some people just don't realize that some player just aren't cutting it. I mean he's arguablly the best QB on our team but thats about it.

I don't know where you've been the last three years, but Ramsey hasn't made that many mistakes throughout his career here. He's taken some sacks that were his fault, but most of his inadequacies were caused by the system. I can't remember having to make any excuses for PRam. I realize the Skins the last 12 years have made some of it's fans into half glass empty fans, but come on. Watch the guy play and critique him realistically. He's pretty good as is, and has huge potential.

FiveWidez · Post by **FiveWidez** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:01 pm

I played QB in high school and a great throw from 10 yards away can be caught by my girlfriend.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:02 pm

sign her up then!!!!

dnpmakkah · Post by **dnpmakkah** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:02 pm

Champsturf wrote:
FiveWidez wrote:As for Ramsey's first INT, sure it should have been caught. But his throw had no touch on it whatsoever. I am a Ramsey fan but he has yet to show me he has the touch or the mentality to lead this team where I want to see them go. I hope he can though.

Nice to see we are all so positive. Looks like a bunch of bandwagoners here. I know that ChrisLL and myself stick to our guns. Ramsey is a good QB. He's no Elway, but very capable of taking us where we want to go. There is NO way those INTs were his fault. Get off the guy and let him play!

Frankly, I would like to see if our second ranked D is going to make it to Texaas Stadium today. They did know the game started at 4:15 ET, right?

And when is our OLine going to block so that Portis can run more than 4 yards????

In other words, stay the F off Ramsey's back. This is a team game last I knew and and least I'm picking on entire sections of the team, not any individuals.

Well as a Redskin fan we are allowed to point out our feelings and just because some people disagrees it does not mean we have to "stay the F off Ramsey's back". This is a mesasge board about the Skins, good or bad, and its not like I am making obscene comments about them. My points are legit and true.

So if a player sucks and you don't approve of his performance that means you are a bandwagoneer and not a true fan. A true fan is one who wants to make the team better regardless. I know the defense stinks today and the running game isnt going, and the receivers dropped passes and slipped. But Ramsey stinks today too.

Jeremy81 · Post by **Jeremy81** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:03 pm

dnpmakkah · Post by **dnpmakkah** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:05 pm

Oh I completely agree, Ramsey has lots of potential. Gardner does too. So does Samuel, this team can be awesome once these guys and others live up to their potential.

Chris Luva Luva · Post by **Chris Luva Luva** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:06 pm

dnpmakkah wrote:
Champsturf wrote:
FiveWidez wrote:As for Ramsey's first INT, sure it should have been caught. But his throw had no touch on it whatsoever. I am a Ramsey fan but he has yet to show me he has the touch or the mentality to lead this team where I want to see them go. I hope he can though.

Nice to see we are all so positive. Looks like a bunch of bandwagoners here. I know that ChrisLL and myself stick to our guns. Ramsey is a good QB. He's no Elway, but very capable of taking us where we want to go. There is NO way those INTs were his fault. Get off the guy and let him play!

Frankly, I would like to see if our second ranked D is going to make it to Texaas Stadium today. They did know the game started at 4:15 ET, right?

And when is our OLine going to block so that Portis can run more than 4 yards????

In other words, stay the F off Ramsey's back. This is a team game last I knew and and least I'm picking on entire sections of the team, not any individuals.

Well as a Redskin fan we are allowed to point out our feelings and just because some people disagrees it does not mean we have to "stay the F off Ramsey's back". This is a mesasge board about the Skins, good or bad, and its not like I am making obscene comments about them. My points are legit and true.

So if a player sucks and you don't approve of his performance that means you are a bandwagoneer and not a true fan. A true fan is one who wants to make the team better regardless. I know the defense stinks today and the running game isnt going, and the receivers dropped passes and slipped. But Ramsey stinks today too.

And as Redskin fans and mainstays of this site we have the right to call out wagon riders. Maybe you're one, maybe your not, I could careless. We see the same posts over and over every week and it just gets old.

Ramsey has YET to have an entire season under one coach and one scheme. He's made a huge improvement and its going to take time.

We just don't believe that this is Ramsey fault, all he can do is throw the ball.