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Crazy: How old are you? I thought I was old, but if you were a fan of Justice, who retired in '52, you must be in your 60's to remember that. If that is so, then you certainly lived thru the first Gibbs tenure. But you certainly don't talk like most people who have experienced that run. Most who ...

You also have to remember that whatever happens... 2008 will be a capped year... the owners would never agree to any CBA that did not include a cap... and any abuse the year before would just result in having to then comply with the cap the following year and possible create huge problems for ...

I guess like much of the young fans of the 70´s felt when Allen came on board after 25+ yrs of losing....and what he did??? trade trade trade for over the hill guys....but they were his guys... Character guys, winning guys.

Skipping the age question, I remember the feeling that Jorge mentions ...

I thought Taylor wasn't accepting any calls! How did he put his uniform number order in?

For all those who think we have not improved as a team?

Last year, the discussion was Bowen vs. IFFY!!!!

Skinsfan55 wrote:Chris Hanberger- Did I spell that correctly? Anyway, a MLB would help out a lot

Unfortunately, he played outside linebacker.

skinsfan#33 wrote:
And as much as I love Darrel Green, Pat Fischer was better.

RIC has it right. There is no greater fan of Pat Fischer than me. But, there can be no doubt... DG was the greatest Corner in Redskins history, and one of the greatest ever.

Pat Fischer would not make a team today ...

Bobby Mitchell

statboy wrote:i think those two QB picks stand out. the real critcism for the beloved skins is coming to the qb pick and 2 FB picks

I think those two fullback picks were brilliant! They have the potential to solve two problems areas from last year: short yardage offense and special teams.

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You don't give up two #1s to trade up for a KR.

Even if that KR goes on to become a SB MVP?

Let's put it this way. Suppose the Skins won the SB in 1997 (instead of the Packers) and Howard was the SB MVP for the Skins. Also, supposed that Howard contributed absolutely nothing before or after ...

In my memory, Ray McDonald was as bad (if not worse) a first round selection as Heath Schuler, Desmond Howard or Andre Johnson were. Look it up!

Do others here think that Desmond Howard was a bust?

As a WR, he didn't do much ... but as a KR, he won the Super Bowl MVP with the Packers. Can ...

gregory smith wrote:Who was Ray McDonald? I'm old but I don't remember that name.

Redskins first round draft choice in 1967, 13th overall. Career stats: 52 rushes, 223 yards.

In my memory, Ray McDonald was as bad (if not worse) a first round selection as Heath Schuler, Desmond Howard or Andre Johnson were. Look it up!

Nice post.

This adds an interesting spin on things.
Lying officially has stripped Lavar of his core redskiness...

In my mind, I have never seen Lavar as a "core" Redskin. I still think that definition is not well understood by most on this board.

Does Lavar have talent? Yes. Is he one of ...

hatsOFF2gibbs wrote:If we're going to lose all these guys, it'll take way longer than 5 years to be successful.

If we're going to put up with all this BS from players it could take even longer.

Breaking apart? Not at all. What's happening right now is exactly what Joe told you would happen. He's weeding out the people who don't want to be Redskins. He's creating the core. He's teaching these guys how to be real football players and how to win.

Nobody is too good to lose. If they think ...

That would make sense. I remember that Sam hated being dumped by the Giants. He said someplace (an autobiography?) that, when he came to the Redskins, the defense was so poorly coached that they were told where to line up, and nothing more. No defensive plays, no schemes...just stand and get hit ...

Insanity will rule in 07.

On the contrary, I think it will get better. There will be a lockout/walkout/strike, whatever you want to call it, before insanity will prevail in salaries (assuming it is not already at the insanity point, but that is another discussion).

No cap in 2007? How ...

Also, I'm pretty shocked that Welch hasn't been by with a Garo Yepremian reference yet...but I'm sure he will be.He wasn't a Redskin...but his boneheaded play in '72 almost put us in the record books for all time.

That was probably the most bone headed play off ALL time, not just by a Redskin ...

But I'll add that I'm the kind of guy that HATES to see a back march a team all the way down the field and then gets brought out for someone else to cash in a one or two yard touchdown. So maybe my opinion is jaded.

BH: Yes your opinion is jaded (IMO). With a true team approach, why would it ...

My favorite memory of Joe Washington was when he went beserk in the fourth quarter of the 1983 Oakland Raider game. He was all over the field as we scored 17 points in the final 7 minutes to win 37-35 or something like that.

Tom Landry was right when he said "Washington isn't Washington without ...

I don't think it's a cruitical need but I'm sure they're exploring all options.

actually, i think it is pretty damn crucial... i can count several times that portis got stuck on 3rd and inches... the skins need a bruiser to get in there and stick it. i know betts is there and i am not even ...

As of today we are $9.6 million below the cap! There are only seven teams with more cap space! I guess Lenny is right, Dan Snyder has no idea what he's doing!

Unfortunately, it is not only about where you are vis-a-vis the salary cap, it also is about what you have spent it on that counts ...

This boils down to a terrible situation now i don't think we have a hope of making the playoffs. unless Gibbs signs alot of Good Wrs in F.A.

On the contrary, I think this boils down to a great situation if we can figure out how to dump him with the least amount of salary cap issues.

All of ...