Jones or Snyder

DEHog · Post by **DEHog** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:20 pm

Which owner cracks first and meddles in their coaches business??

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:34 pm

DEHog wrote:Which owner cracks first and mettles in their coaches business??

Jones will crack first, I'm surprised he hasn't already.
His ego won't let him keep is nose out of the football side of it.

On the other hand "The Danny" has toned it down quite a bit. He would have steped in weeks ago had anyone but Joe been the HC.

"The Danny" has been a fan almost as long as I've been, meaning we both have faith in Gibbs and whatever he dicides to do. I will wonder what the h*** he is doing but I won't question it.

Plus Joe is now starting "The Dannys" hand picked QB, he give him ever chane to produce with him.

redskindave · Post by **redskindave** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:23 am

I agree, I think it will be Jones, If they pukes lose two or three more in a row you will see jones changing things

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:57 am

I think Snyder cracks first and interferes as bad as Jerkoff Jones is. Jerry is on his last set of legs in Dallas

he loses Parcells because of his stupidity and that is all she wrote for Jones.

Snyder on the other hand hasn't reached the point of if he meddles again new owner. so
Danny boy has alot more fans I am sure he
would love to piss off, and run Gibbs out of
town so he can run the team him self

doroshjt · Post by **doroshjt** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:04 am

danny worships gibbs, no way he'll interfer

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 9:10 am

Or so it may appear when I saw Snyder and Gibbs doing that interview. it looked to me
like Snyder seemed uneasy about giving over
the controls to Gibbs

I think deep down Danny boy wants to run the team but he can't. he can't say that out loud. if he does the media and more then likely the fans jump all over him for it

Redskin Stouff · Post by **Redskin Stouff** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:19 am

Jones will mettle first (he actually already has by saying, "There will be personnel changes" last week.) Boy was Parcells pissed.

Then on Monday Night, he goes down to the sideline to "rally his troops" - what arrogance! No other owner does that.

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:26 am

TexasCowboy wrote:and that is all she wrote for Jones.

How do you figure?

Jones is one of the richest people in America, and he is the team owner. Exactly how would he lose ownership of the team, regardless of his level of involvement in football operations?

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:30 am

Jones owns the team he is allowed to be any where he wants. I think he knew the team was
down the confidence was gone so he came down
to pep the boys up

I see nothing wrong with that at all any type of confidence booster you can get you take.

especially from an owner who believes in his team it's players and it's coaches. sometimes
the ole shot in the arm does good for the moral especially when it's low

as for Jones saying that about the team I think he over anticipated Bill Parcells announcement if there would be change

Parcells obviously wasn't ready for change yet Jones jumped the gun early no big deal

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:37 am

cvillehog wrote:
TexasCowboy wrote:and that is all she wrote for Jones.

How do you figure?

Jones is one of the richest people in America, and he is the team owner. Exactly how would he lose ownership of the team, regardless of his level of involvement in football operations?

It's very simple you force him to sell you stop attending the games take away his money. he is not gonna sink money
into a busted team were head coaches don't want to come and
coach your team

were quality players don't want to come play because you are not a contender for a Lombardi trophy. that is why Jones is being very carefull with Parcells

because he knows he is on his last legs if he doesn't make this work with the Tuna. he is gonna get ridden out of town
the fans will have spokin and all Jones can do is tuck tail
and run

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:40 am

TexasCowboy wrote:
cvillehog wrote:
TexasCowboy wrote:and that is all she wrote for Jones.

How do you figure?

Jones is one of the richest people in America, and he is the team owner. Exactly how would he lose ownership of the team, regardless of his level of involvement in football operations?

It's very simple you force him to sell you stop attending the games take away his money. he is not gonna sink money
into a busted team were head coaches don't want to come and
coach your team

were quality players don't want to come play because you are not a contender for a Lombardi trophy. that is why Jones is being very carefull with Parcells

because he knows he is on his last legs if he doesn't make this work with the Tuna. he is gonna get ridden out of town
the fans will have spokin and all Jones can do is tuck tail
and run

I think he would move the team before he sold it. And, I think you are a long, long way away from getting to that point. You won't boycott the games, because some other knucklehead 'pukes fan would just take your seats when you leave.

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:57 am

I'll guarentee he won't move the team not with a new stadium coming. and even if some other knuckle head Cowboys fan takes my seat

there will be enough Cowboys fans who will be sick and tired of this crap. and will join the
boycott

Jones lives off the money and he knows that the fans are in control. if they speak then
it's loud and clear Jones better tuck tail
and run

Redskin Stouff · Post by **Redskin Stouff** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:59 pm

TexasCowboy wrote:I'll guarentee he won't move the team not with a new stadium coming. and even if some other knuckle head Cowboys fan takes my seat

there will be enough Cowboys fans who will be sick and tired of this crap. and will join the
boycott

Jones lives off the money and he knows that the fans are in control. if they speak then
it's loud and clear Jones better tuck tail
and run

More fairweather Puke fans. You guys are unbelievable! This just proves that the Skins have the best and most supportive fan base in the NFL.

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:03 pm

Redskin Stouff wrote:
TexasCowboy wrote:I'll guarentee he won't move the team not with a new stadium coming. and even if some other knuckle head Cowboys fan takes my seat

there will be enough Cowboys fans who will be sick and tired of this crap. and will join the
boycott

Jones lives off the money and he knows that the fans are in control. if they speak then
it's loud and clear Jones better tuck tail
and run

More fairweather Puke fans. You guys are unbelievable! This just proves that the Skins have the best and most supportive fan base in the NFL.

it proves that you have the most sorriest bunch of suck ass fans who Snyder can slap around like his **** any time he wants

Jones doesn't get that luxury with Cowboys fans we know how to hurt Jerkoff Jones were it hurts. I guess you still have not learned that you can your owners puppet all you want

but we do things differntly we take away the money see how fast Jones gets his ass in check once that happens

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:32 pm

Wow, slow it down a bit and reread your posts before hitting submit. That is barely decipherable.

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:22 pm

It's real simple Snyder can slap you around because he knows. he has suck ass fans who will
continue to pay money to see the team play

Jerkoff Jones doesn't have that luxury with us we take away the mans money when we are pissed

we know that the way you bring down a rich man like Jones. is to not buy merchandise not attend home games

it's the same way with every business you can crush a corporate giant just by taking away
the money

you can call it being fairweather or bandwagon fans. but if you were to see how effective this methode is when dealing with an idiot like Jones

you'd see how fast he begs for mercy and is anxious to get the fans back. so he doesn't
lose any more money

you on the other hand cater to Snyder and that leads me to believe. That Snyder has you wrapped right around his little finger

If you were smart you'd do the same boycott games and let Snyder know I am a fan of this
team and what you are doing is a disgrace to it

cvillehog · Post by **cvillehog** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:52 pm

Give one example of when you oh-so-brilliant 'pukes fans have exercised this amazing power you have over Jones. :roll:

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:12 pm

cvillehog wrote:Give one example of when you oh-so-brilliant 'pukes fans have exercised this amazing power you have over Jones.

really. and if this magic power exists, why haven't you exercised it before now? ....wait. oh yea, you were gonna do it last year, but parcells...
gimmie a break. jones is just like snyder. he'd pay salaries out of pocket to make his team do better, regardless of what a fan in whoknowswhere texas would think. jones owns you...... not the other way around.

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:56 am

cvillehog wrote:Give one example of when you oh-so-brilliant 'pukes fans have exercised this amazing power you have over Jones.

very easy how about when he was forced to buy out all the empty seats in the stadium because people never showed up

another example because the team was so bad fans stopped buying Cowboys merchandise. he actually had prices lowered
just to see if fans would buy something so he didn't have
to take a lose on it

it's like I said you can bring a rich man to his knees if you take away the money. he depends upon fans traveling to
Texas to see the team play

he depends upon the fans to eat at his food stands and buy his merchandise. he relies on the fans to purchase beer and soda and bottled water from his vendors

if fans are keeping the money in there pockets and not given it to Jones what do you expect him to do? he is in it for the money that's what he cares about the all mighty Dollar

Jones knew the stand were empty for a reason he knew that the more fans that stopped coming to the games would cost him to much

you can't afford to take hit loses on food beverage merchandise travel sales ticket sales and tour sales

that's why he got rid of Campo and hired Parcells because he knew if he didn't hire a real coach. every year the seats at
Texas Stadium would get emptier and emptier, and the net loses he would suffer in all marketing sales would be the
end of Jones in Dallas

it's not hard to see if you look real close and see how quickly those powerfull methodes of persuation can work to your advantage

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:03 am

very easy how about when he was forced to buy out all the empty seats in the stadium because people never showed up

but he did. he'd do it again if he had to. people are gonna go regardless what you think. the only team that has a real problem is arz. the pukes are far from that, regardless how bad they suck. if i recall correctly there is waiting list for both the skins and the pukes. so don't get your panties in a bunch over nothing. jerry will fill the stands.

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:19 am

TexasC wrote:very easy how about when he was forced to buy out all the empty seats in the stadium because people never showed up

He bought the tickets so the games would be on TV for the local fans. But he didn't sell the team

TexasC wrote:another example because the team was so bad fans stopped buying Cowboys merchandise. he actually had prices lowered
just to see if fans would buy something so he didn't have
to take a lose on it

He didn't take a lost because when fans started buying again he raised prices higher than they were before he lowered them and he didn't sell the team

TexasC wrote:it's like I said you can bring a rich man to his knees if you take away the money. he depends upon fans traveling to Texas to see the team play

When was he brougt to his knees :?:

You aren't taking money out of his pocket you're just not putting more in, there's a difference

TexasC wrote:if fans are keeping the money in there pockets and not given it to Jones what do you expect him to do?

a. He'll buy up the seats and give them away or he'll let the game be blackedout locally
b. He'll lower prices to win the fans back, he knows you will come back at the right price then he'll raise the price

TexasC wrote:Jones knew the stand were empty for a reason he knew that the more fans that stopped coming to the games would cost him to much

you can't afford to take hit loses on food beverage merchandise travel sales ticket sales and tour sales

that's why he got rid of Campo and hired Parcells because he knew if he didn't hire a real coach. every year the seats at
Texas Stadium would get emptier and emptier, and the net loses he would suffer in all marketing sales would be the
end of Jones in Dallas

it's not hard to see if you look real close and see how quickly those powerfull methodes of persuation can work to your advantage

Jones knew the fans would be back he just waited you out. That team in Texas is a big money maker for Jerry and if he can't make it where he is at the he'll move to some other part and make it. The funny thing is those same people that would boycott him now will go to whatever loction he takes the team. But you can't MAKE him sell what is his

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:25 am

bottom line..... jones is a good businessman, unlike texas cowboy. jones went out and made millions, so that he could have people like texas cowboy bitch about how he could do better, but obviuosly can't or else he'd own the cowboys instead of just whining about how he could. :roll:

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:20 am

hailskins666 wrote:bottom line..... jones is a good businessman, unlike texas cowboy. jones went out and made millions, so that he could have people like texas cowboy bitch about how he could do better, but obviuosly can't or else he'd own the cowboys instead of just whining about how he could.

Of course he could better and I will give the billion dollar face lift freak his due. when it comes to being a business man he is great no doubt about it

when it comes to anything that deals directly with any kind of football operations the man has no clue

so he should stick to what he does best just be a business man not be hands on let coaches do there job and when the
camera turns towards you

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:21 am

One more thing why would a Redskins fan who hates the Cowboys all of a sudden defend Jerry Jones?

TexasCowboy · Post by **TexasCowboy** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:33 am

He bought the tickets show the games would be on TV for the local fans. But he didn't sell the team

I never said he sold the team

He didn't take a lost because when fans started buying again he raised prices higher than they were before he lowered them and he didn't sell the team

He lowered them because people were not attending the games and he needs the fans to put money into ticket sales and anything else he decides he wants to sell

of course it took the getting of Bill Parcells to get ticket prices higher

When was he brougt to his knees? You aren't taking money out of his pocket you're just not putting more in, there's a difference

I told you when once the fans stopped buying merchandise food,drinks,and tickets. don't think Jones don't like making
a profit off anything he can get his hands on

that is why he is in the football business to make more money
well he can't make more money if fans don't buy what he is selling

Jones knew the fans would be back he just waited you out. That team in Texas is a big money maker for Jerry and if he can't make it where he is at the he'll move to some other part and make it. The funny thing is those same people that would boycott him now will go to whatever loction he takes the team. But you can't MAKE him sell what is his

yes it is a big money maker and he knows that and he knows that the fans control what money he gets. with out the fans
he has no business and he makes no money off it

but the bottom line is the people down in Texas are not afraid to run off Jones if he continues to screw up. they
want a winner and they want an owner who stays out of the
coaches business and lets him do what he is being payed to
do

don't think for one minute Dallas fans won't have a say in Jones leaving if he runs off Parcells like he did Jimmy J

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