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There was NO ONE in motion.

That game was fixed. What a load of crud.

jklote wrote:There was NO ONE in motion.

That game was fixed. What a load of crud.

Could they have thrown the red flag?

The NFL will review it but it will be too late...

Redskin in Canada wrote:

jklote wrote:There was NO ONE in motion.

That game was fixed. What a load of crud.

Could they have thrown the red flag?

The NFL will review it but it will be too late...

You'll just get a "your right, its a bad call and we're sorry".

Man, that disgusts me.

jklote wrote:There was NO ONE in motion.

That game was fixed. What a load of crud.

Joe Gibbs talked to the refs .... 1 said it was the r-back (taht was Clinton Portis)
The other ref said it was Thrash, but Jie said because of the safety Thrash never released so it couldn't have been him

I thought they called it on ey.

i hate refs, period

The ref should be fired, they should promote the college refs, they are a lot better.

I heard that the refs had to be escorted out of Fed Ex by security.

1niksder wrote:

jklote wrote:There was NO ONE in motion.

That game was fixed. What a load of crud.

Joe Gibbs talked to the refs .... 1 said it was the r-back (taht was Clinton Portis)
The other ref said it was Thrash, but Jie said because of the safety Thrash never released so it couldn't have been him

That is what Gibbs said in his press conference. On the postgame show, ey said the refs called it on Thrash, but Thrash had settled in beside him before the snap and was moving backward in pass protection. So it couldn't have been Thrash. Portis never moved. I replayed it on TiVo several times and NOBODY moved. Total crap call.

That was an accurate penalty call. It was the most untimely of coincidences of when the ball was snapped in relation to Thrash's motion.

If the snap is a half-second earlier, Thrash is in lateral motion and it's legal.

If the snap is a half-second later, Thrash is set on the line and it's legal.

But JT needed to take that one step forward to establish himself on the line and it's at that exact split-second that the ball is snap and it's illegal.

Brandon777 wrote:I heard that the refs had to be escorted out of Fed Ex by security.

I heard that. Thats funny. I wish one of them would have caught a bottle to the mouth

John Manfreda wrote:The ref should be fired, they should promote the college refs, they are a lot better.

God no. I. Will. Not. Let. Anyone. The. Likes. Of. An. SEC. Ref. In. The. NFL.

Smithian wrote:

John Manfreda wrote:The ref should be fired, they should promote the college refs, they are a lot better.

God no. I. Will. Not. Let. Anyone. The. Likes. Of. An. SEC. Ref. In. The. NFL.

Just ask Jerry Glanville. He loves the college guys.

Who was it?? Herzog said when Portis shifted he never got set for 1 second which you must do before the play starts.

Gibbs said he doesn't know says it wasn't Thrash or Portis. I didn't see the game so I have know idea but I know it couldn't have come at a worst time

The commentators said the call was on ey. They said however, that ey was not moving and that Thrash was. But they said that Thrash stopped before the ball was snapped. I also heard that the Ref didn't throw his flag until Portis broke for the TD run. You would think that the flag would have been thrown much sooner.

The flag was apparently thrown because Thrash was not set for a full second after going into motion on the play. He said he didn't want to comment on the call because he ``didn't know for sure'' if it was the right one.

Gibbs didn't seem satisfied with the explanation the officials gave him.

``They said it was James Thrash,'' said Gibbs, whose team dropped to 2-5. ``I know it wasn't James. He's super-smart and doesn't make mistakes like that. ... It's an absolute mystery to me.''


The Redskins will probably get an oops we blew it from the NFL.

Fire the part time old men refs and hire full time year round refs.

I think it was a bad call. An accurate call can be a bad call. Thrash was not set for at least a second as the rule requires, so the call was accurate. But should the call be made? The rule requres Thrash to have "no motion" for at least a second, which is physically impossible. Technically every single offensive play involves illegal motion, since no human is ever literally motionless. Of course calling illegal motion, because a player blinked would be a bad call.

A reasonable question is how often is illegal motion called in the Thrash situation. I have seen this call made when a player in motion starts up field to early gaining an advantage heading into his route. I don't think I have seen it on a player who drops back to block.

The NFL has attempted and succeeded in creating parity among the teams. This means no team is dominate enough to overcome biased officiating. Good officiating requires consistentcy. If (and it's a big if) the Thrash call is never made, there is a serious problem with the officiating and the integrity of the NFL needs to be investigated.

It was not accurate. We've watched it 30 times on Tivo and the kicker here is that the damned officials threw the flag AFTER the touchedown was scored. So if greenbay had stopped us would they have changed their mind?? What the heck is with that?? It was a call based on something other then what they saw at the line of scrimmage. If not why hold the flag?? It was BS. We watch and Thrash was in the right here.

at least we scored over 20 points for about 12 seconds though.....LOL, well i guess that kerry is going to be our prez now also! That sux!

it is soooo lame to blame a loss on the refs !!!! so please stop it !!! if our offense could move the ball and score that one or two plays would NOT matter !!! our offense just plain sucks !!!! THAT IS WHY WE LOST !!!!

true, we SHOULD be able to win games regardless of how much the refs stink. but the reality is that we can't. we're not that good. so when the refs DO screw up, it hurts. a lot. just think; if they got this call and the dallas game right, we could be 4-3 right now. for teams such as the skins, who have no margin of error, poor officiating really hurts.

by the way, what no one has mentioned (the commentators included) is how much of an impact that missed field goal had on the game. instead of being down 6 with a few minutes to go, we would have simply needed to get into field goal range to tie it, and hopefully send it into overtime. another case of injuries coming back to bite us.

If we could move the Ball, the refs would not have been a factor.

We simply have to play better on Offense.

redskincity wrote:If we could move the Ball, the refs would not have been a factor.

We simply have to play better on Offense.

is there an echo in here ???