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Starter: Brunell
Backup: Hasselbeck
Bench-warmer: Ramsey

Ramsey is shooting himself in the foot everytime he snaps the ball on the field. He had ONE good pass in the game, the one to Jacobs. But he fumbled, of course not Ramsey's fault. BUT THAT WAS IT. HE DID NOT MOVE THE TEAM DOWN THE FIELD AT ALL!
Seriously, at this point Hasselbeck has a good chance to be the backup if he plays JUST a little better. At least he had more than one good pass during the Rams game!

Everyday, Ramsey is starting to dissapoint me. I think we made a mistake, we should've traded him! I'm aware about it being pre-season but I'll put my word on it: Ramsey has NO chance to start against the Bucs.

I don't know about "no chance" because I've seen crazier things happen. I think we need to keep this guy while we can afford him, he is our future.... and he will learn under the coaching staff and Brunell's guidance.

agreed - PRam didn't look sharp - but he started to look more confident... I don't remember seeing double pumps even if he didn't complete 8 of 10 with a TD...

I think the confidence was holding him back and if he can learn that the protection will be there he will be feeling better - then he can concentrate on learning how to work the system...

I think his trust level with his receivers got shot to pieces last year with a lot of drops on perfect passes... passes he would get stomped into the ground hanging in there to throw - it would be frustrating to everyone here too...

Once he gets more comfortable he will look better... just think of this as his rookie season under a veteran - he will look better come next camp - you don't graduate Cum Laude from an accounting program being stupid - he'll learn it, but it is so different from everything he knows it will take some time to learn.

I am comfortable with Hasselbeck as the second stringer for a while - shows good decision making and a decent arm - better than Danny Wuerffel's arm - did you see that one 40 yarder he heaved? good velocity...

he is our future.... and he will learn under the coaching staff and Brunell's guidance.

My goodness, please don't say that again. That is by far the mmost depressing thought.

Come on guys, how much longer are we going to make excuses for this boy? He's just not getting it done, maybe he's just not a NFL QB. O yea, he has potential, he's had it for the past 3 years, but it never translates onto the field.

I understand he may be a bit shellshocked but the Washington RedSkins isn't a therapy center. He's a professional athelete, he needs to shake it off and move on. What if we had to put Smoot or another CB into the rehab clinic everytime they got beat? You have to let stuff go man. I have no more excuses from Ramsey. The protection is there, you can't ask for any better.


The only way Patrick Ramsey will be comfortable in the pocket will be if there one defensive lineman rushing against for O-line man.

Starter: Brunell
Backup: Hasselbeck
Bench-warmer: Ramsey

I like that line up a lot. Based on what I've seen this preseason, I concur with this assessment.

CLL wrote:Come on guys, how much longer are we going to make excuses for this boy? He's just not getting it done, maybe he's just not a NFL QB. O yea, he has potential, he's had it for the past 3 years, but it never translates onto the field.

This is his 3rd year
He was somewhere around 9-7/10-6 over last two years thats not a bad Future NFL QB when you consider that (1) He'll be learning from Gibbs and Brunell and (2) he attained that 9-7/10-6 while learning from Spurrier and (insert former UF QB here).

And he did that with every Defense he faced pretty much knowing what he was going to do, when he was going to do it, and where he planned to do it.

Right now I too could see Hasselback playing before P-Ram but I don't see him as Trade bait

Brunell is the starter. But, Why do you trash the kid?

If you had judged Theisman the same way, he would have been cut and never played for us. Joe had some real -awful- pre-season and regular-season games too...

We can argue all you want but IMO Joe Gibb's order will be:

1. Brunell
2. Ramsey
3. Hasselback

I will acknowledge my mistake in a future thread if this is not the case. The kid is our future and the future will be good, very good.

ramsey has to go, he just is a pouting little boy, i would rather have hasselback for back-up

Welcome Moses...I see your already breaking commandments!!

Thou shall not bash PRam!!

LOL Please don't talk bad about Patrick. Do you remember the beating he took for us last year?

Yeah, Moses. Go part the Red Sea or something. We're talking football here.
Anyway, this must be why Gibbs brought Brunell in. He must've seen something in the mechanics of Ramsey that left him feeling a little uncomfortable.
I'd have to agree, at this point.
I want, as much as anyone, to see Ramsey succeed. Really. I'm just not encouraged that it's happening at any accelerated pace. I think the boy needs some work, and that he needs to develop some faith in a line that doesn't include Jansen.
IMHO, that is.