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Can someone get me Lenny "I hate Dan Snyder" Pasquarelli's email address? This is getting ridiculous. I am not even going to post a link to the article because it is the same old rederick from Lenny "Pass the Jelly". Snyder is impatient, Snyder is greedy, Snyder is controlling, blah, blah, blah

BossHog - I think you should post a notice at the top of each forum, asking all Redskin fans to email ESPN and complain/boycott Pasquarelli. Reporters are supposed to give us the news, not launch a one-man smearing campaign against the Skins.

Plus, With Joe Gibbs at the helm, it would be nice if we could give Snyder a break for one season. After all, his impatient, controlling ways are what brought Joe back. and its Joes team now.

Better idea. Let it go. Stop caring. Some people have agendas. We know it's over the top and outright wrong.

All we have to do is be secure in our belief that all those mistakes (and there WERE mistakes) have been rectified and the Redskins will be where they belong in January.

Of course you are correct. Just that Lenny hasn't written a good thing about the skins ever.

As for Snyder, yes he's made mistakes, but I can't blame him for Spurriers ineptitude. I can't blame him for Schotty's complete lack of ANY offensive imagination. If Spurrier or Schotty had made the playoffs they'd still be our coach. If you had told me five years ago, "the skins will suck for 5 years but then we'll get Joe Gibbs back", I would have been ecstatic to face those 5 years. I think Snyder truly cares about the Redskin legacy and us fans. He wants so badly to return us to glory that he makes some rash "leaps of faith" to get us there. So, I'm a Snyder believer and have always been a Gibbs believer, since his first season when he turned around an 0-5 start. Lenny can kiss my a$$.

fleetus wrote:Of course you are correct. Just that Lenny hasn't written a good thing about the skins ever.

Actually, he HAS. When he was the senior writer at Sportsline.com and had to compete with the Clayton/Mort juggernaut, he was my #1 source for unbiased reporting.

He was in the same boat vs. ESPN as the Times guys were vs. the Post. They seemed to be working the same sources.

Something happened when Lenny starting drinking the Bristol Kool-Aid.

fleetus wrote:Of course you are correct. Just that Lenny hasn't written a good thing about the skins ever.

As for Snyder, yes he's made mistakes, but I can't blame him for Spurriers ineptitude. I can't blame him for Schotty's complete lack of ANY offensive imagination. If Spurrier or Schotty had made the playoffs they'd still be our coach. If you had told me five years ago, "the skins will suck for 5 years but then we'll get Joe Gibbs back", I would have been ecstatic to face those 5 years. I think Snyder truly cares about the Redskin legacy and us fans. He wants so badly to return us to glory that he makes some rash "leaps of faith" to get us there. So, I'm a Snyder believer and have always been a Gibbs believer, since his first season when he turned around an 0-5 start. Lenny can kiss my a$$.

I agree with most of what you say, but Schottenheimer didn't get a fair shake. He was a defensive guy. The reason he was fired was because he wouldn't relinquish the power to bring people in back to Danny. He had us going in the right direction, and would have gotten to the post-season given a second year, but Danny wanted to see Spurier light up the scoreboard and run up the score against Dallas. But we have Gibbs back now, and Danny isn't about to mess with him.

JSPB22 wrote:I agree with most of what you say, but Schottenheimer didn't get a fair shake. He was a defensive guy. The reason he was fired was because he wouldn't relinquish the power to bring people in back to Danny. He had us going in the right direction, and would have gotten to the post-season given a second year, but Danny wanted to see Spurier light up the scoreboard and run up the score against Dallas. But we have Gibbs back now, and Danny isn't about to mess with him.

after the mess schottenheimer has created in san diego canning him was probably the right move...now, bringing spurrier in on the otherhand...ehhh, not so good...

BUT it did look good at the time...

surferskin wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:I agree with most of what you say, but Schottenheimer didn't get a fair shake. He was a defensive guy. The reason he was fired was because he wouldn't relinquish the power to bring people in back to Danny. He had us going in the right direction, and would have gotten to the post-season given a second year, but Danny wanted to see Spurier light up the scoreboard and run up the score against Dallas. But we have Gibbs back now, and Danny isn't about to mess with him.

after the mess schottenheimer has created in san diego canning him was probably the right move...now, bringing spurrier in on the otherhand...ehhh, not so good...

BUT it did look good at the time...

He has no talent in SD. And they have always been a mess.

no talent? well, that's partly marty's fault...hell, they have a top 5 pick every year...i think he could do a better job picking players...but how can you say NO talent? have you ever seen their RB play? he's not half bad...

Of all of the Danny's hires up until the one that brought us back our beloved Coach Gibbs, I think that bringing Schottenheimer to the 'Skins was his best move. He brought in a coach that had enjoyed considerable success with every team that he'd coached, his biggest problem was that he could never quite seem to make it through the playoffs... and for a team that had suffered for as long as the 'Skins had, it wasn't a bad move at all, unlike the subsequent hiring of Spurrier. I do think that, given a second season and a little (okay, a lot) less interference from the Danny and his sycophant buddy Vinnie, Schottenheimer could have had the 'Skins in the playoffs, considering that he did manage the turnaround in the second half of the season, much like another coach that I seem to recall, having started 0-5, and ending up 8-8. And before anyone considers accusing me of blasphemy, no, I did not mean to imply that Marty was anywhere NEAR the coach that Joe was and, more importantly, IS. But in Marty's defense, I don't think that even Joe could do anything with San Diego. I mean they've had what, 1 really GOOD year, under Bobby Ross, and nothing since, and nothing before that since Don Coryell?

surferskin wrote:no talent? well, that's partly marty's fault...hell, they have a top 5 pick every year...i think he could do a better job picking players...but how can you say NO talent? have you ever seen their RB play? he's not half bad...

He's only been there two years. And he brought LT in, no? Anyway one player does not a talented team make.

The players in San Diego never got over the whole thing with Junior Seau. They refuse to buy into MartyBall. That's unfortunate, because the man is perfectly capable of fielding a wonderful team.
Until the second round of the playoffs, anyway.

JSPB22 wrote:

surferskin wrote:no talent? well, that's partly marty's fault...hell, they have a top 5 pick every year...i think he could do a better job picking players...but how can you say NO talent? have you ever seen their RB play? he's not half bad...

He's only been there two years. And he brought LT in, no? Anyway one player does not a talented team make.

well, ask the falcons...remember, SD traded the #1 pick that would have got them michael vick...

surferskin wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:

surferskin wrote:no talent? well, that's partly marty's fault...hell, they have a top 5 pick every year...i think he could do a better job picking players...but how can you say NO talent? have you ever seen their RB play? he's not half bad...

He's only been there two years. And he brought LT in, no? Anyway one player does not a talented team make.

well, ask the falcons...remember, SD traded the #1 pick that would have got them michael vick...

Vick or LT, either way it is still just one player, and team managment is still burning from the whole Ryan Leaf fiasco.

fleetus wrote:BossHog - I think you should post a notice at the top of each forum, asking all Redskin fans to email ESPN and complain/boycott Pasquarelli. Reporters are supposed to give us the news, not launch a one-man smearing campaign against the Skins.

I thought it was pretty funny that ESPN assigned LP instead of John Clayton to the Redskins camp for their "Training Camp Tour" articles, considering how competely biased (as you mentioned above) he is against the team. Overall, I didn't think his article was too bad, as he focues exclusively on the offensive line, and only bashed Dan Snyder when he was talking about the "firing" of Kim Helton. He was even able to write an article earlier in the week about Sean Taylor firing his agents without even mentioning Snyder (an amazing feat in itself). Obviously, though, he was back to his old tricks in the Brunell-Ramsey article later that same day. We can only hope that ESPN takes him off football duty (or at least Redskins duty) and makes him cover something that he can report on without showing complete and obvious hatred and bias against a subject.

I don't think that anyone who witnessed the second half of the season under Marty could honestly say that we were not a far superior team that year to anything that Spurrier produced--even when Spurrier was 3-1 at the beginning of this past year.

Remember, Spurrier gave us all a heart attack week in, week out. He just happened to win 3 out of 4 of the first contests. Once coaches caught on it just plain sucked.

I know that Marty didn't treat incumbent players very well (then again, it was Green and Smith who did most of the complaining; and people here at thehogs.net have things to say about their character anyway--but please let's not get into that on this thread). I know that he was a GM/Coach, which has never produced a superbowl championship team.

But I agree with JSPB22: we would have gone to the playoffs the year after, and maybe for several years to come.

Then again, and it always seems to go in this direction, without firing Marty, hiring Spurrier etc., Gibbs might not be our coach right now. Nevertheless, I'll always maintain that firing Marty was a mistake.