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New England also signed unrestricted free agent tight end Zeron Flemister.

Terms were not disclosed. The 6-foot-4, 250-pound Flemister was originally signed by the Washington Redskins as an undrafted free agent out of Iowa.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1847531

Why would New England do this? They have Ben Watson, Christian Fauria, and Daniel Graham. Flemister was horrible the last two years here. He played with no enthusiasm and no skill. He couldn't block and he couldn't catch. I commonly referred to him as The Blob last year. When I saw him miss catches... he just looked so clumsy, lazy, and emotionless. I guess that sums up how well he'll do in New England.

Jake wrote:
Why would New England do this? They have Ben Watson, Christian Fauria, and Daniel Graham.

Why would the Redskins sign Walter Rasby, Mike Sellers, Fred Baxter, Brian Kozlowski, draft Chris ey, add Sean Brewer on top of Robert Royal?

Because some teams value the TE position and demand lots of depth there more than others.

Plus, Daniel Graham has been a bust.

chalktalk wrote:

Jake wrote:
Why would New England do this? They have Ben Watson, Christian Fauria, and Daniel Graham.

Why would the Redskins sign Walter Rasby, Mike Sellers, Fred Baxter, Brian Kozlowski, draft Chris ey, add Sean Brewer on top of Robert Royal?

Because some teams value the TE position and demand lots of depth there more than others.

Plus, Daniel Graham has been a bust.

I understand your point in emphasizing the TE, which NE does, but why waste a roster spot for Flemister? This guy has been a total hack the last two seasons. I would never bring him back based on what I've seen of him on multiple occasions. His lack of enthusiasm on the field just angers me.

And Graham hasn't really been a bust. He's done pretty well given the depth the Pats have had at that position the last two years.

http://nfl.com/players/playerpage/302195

Wow Zeron Flemiseter?

No disrespect to him , because he must have had some talent to make it to the NFL.

But that guy sucked. As Jake said earlier. I have never seen a tight end who could not

block, catch, read defenses, run routes, or even get excited.

The Blob...thats the best name I've ever heard for Flemister. He totally made no impact when he was on the field.

milkbone wrote:The Blob...thats the best name I've ever heard for Flemister. He totally made no impact when he was on the field.

yes he did. he took up a roster spot, and cost us cap money to sit and look dumb on the sidelines, drop the ball on the field, and not to mention he couldn't block for crap.

I know this is off topic, but I like the new avatar Hailskins.

thanks. its the old avatar, with some new evil added. my own new design in general, but mad props to NC43Hog( ) for adding the dallass star back into it and putting it all together and making it work.

Jake wrote:This guy has been a total hack the last two seasons. I would never bring him back based on what I've seen of him on multiple occasions.

Yet, Chris Samuels & Jon Jansen are still around, though they, too, were hacks last year? C'mon, man... the system was horrible the past two years, and each guy got progressively worse.

I'm not pro-Flemister; as a matter of fact, I don't even remember seeing him on the field (that's how memorable his play was). But to say he stunk without applying the "free pass" the others get because of the OBC's system, is wrong. He's a pro. He earned his way up to this level, and he deserves the benefit of the doubt if a team sees something in him that they like.

On another note, here's to seeing Chris and Jon return to Pro Bowl form!!!

Jake wrote:This guy has been a total hack the last two seasons. I would never bring him back based on what I've seen of him on multiple occasions. His lack of enthusiasm on the field just angers me.

Yet, to say the same thing about Chris Samuels, and we're horrible people?

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Jake wrote:This guy has been a total hack the last two seasons. I would never bring him back based on what I've seen of him on multiple occasions.

Yet, Chris Samuels & Jon Jansen are still around, though they, too, were hacks last year? C'mon, man... the system was horrible the past two years, and each guy got progressively worse.

I'm not pro-Flemister; as a matter of fact, I don't even remember seeing him on the field (that's how memorable his play was). But to say he stunk without applying the "free pass" the others get because of the OBC's system, is wrong. He's a pro. He earned his way up to this level, and he deserves the benefit of the doubt if a team sees something in him that they like.

On another note, here's to seeing Chris and Jon return to Pro Bowl form!!!

A few reasons...

Samuels and Jansen dominated before Spurrier ever got here. Flemister didn't. And I will defend Samuels and Jansen over Flem any time because they give their all every play and seem to actually care about whether their play affects the team.

Flemister had one season in which he had over 150 yards and that was his 'breakout' year in 2001. Obviously he deserves credit of making an NFL roster but don't you think Gibbs and Co. reviewed tapes of him in 2001 and still decided not to bring him back? That's not good. Gibbs signed a guy with NO career catches, Sean Brewer, and still had the chance to re-sign Flemister.

I think it's safe to say that they saw his lack of effort from last year.

Smithian wrote:

Jake wrote:This guy has been a total hack the last two seasons. I would never bring him back based on what I've seen of him on multiple occasions. His lack of enthusiasm on the field just angers me.

Yet, to say the same thing about Chris Samuels, and we're horrible people?

Where did that come from? I've never had problems with people having opinions. Obviously I disagree with people but you're out of line if you believe I think people are bad because they don't have the same feelings as me.

Again, even when Chris struggles, he puts in effort and seems to care about his play.

Chris will be back to normal this season. Buge's will fix the bad habits he had last year. Plus don't forget he was trying to compensate for a rookie guard starting next to him. Jansen and Thomas did fairly well run blocking last year and not horrible in pass protection after the OBC simplified the play book a little. They under-acheived a little last year, but they also were in an offense with blocking schemes that had the purpose of holding for a few seconds to throw the ball. It was not designed to protect the QB. With the new run-first mentality and the tuteledge of the Coach Joe's, i think you will see a monster year from the line.

I wasn't a big Flemister fan, but I'm gonna miss having him around. I always like saying "Zeron Flemister". What a name!! That's right up there with Adewale Ogunlaye. Flemister sounds like something you hack up when you have a really bad cough.

i think someone had a bad cough when they hacked up zeron....

I have to agree, Zeron for some reason was pretty emotionless, and the skills were pretty much lacking...but hey, good luck to him, maybe a fire can spark for him somewhere else..?? As far as Samuels and the rest of the crew, we all should know we had some poor coaching, and things will SURELY change with the right people coaching the Extreme amounts of TALENT we already have in place!!