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Why George Bush and John Kerry must lie to the American publ

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:57 am
by gambit187
The following rant article is from a friend of mine that happens to be a fellow black republican(even though he says back and forth). I have found his views to be somewhat enlightening and funny at times. He has alot of time to sit back and right these rants since he sits on his butt at home make 6 figure salary off of internet smut. I hope all of my fueding Americans read this and enjoy.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:58 am
by gambit187
Why George Bush and John Kerry must lie to the American public.
A lot of people complain about How George Bush is ruining the country. A lot of people say that he's an Idiot. A lot of people can't wait to get to the polls to vote George Bush out of office. I will be one of them. However, everything that is happening in society is not George Bush's fault and there are a lot of things that a President must do to keep us all healthy and wealthy.
Americans complain about how little they have but even the majority of the poor in the United States lives ten times better than the average poor citizen in other countries. You can go to Nigeria and you will see people working HARD AS HELL all day doing some mundane hard behind job with the tropical sun beating down on them and sweat pouring from their body. And they were doing that work for the equivalent of FIVE AMERICAN DOLLARS A MONTH! I've seen it with my own two eyes.
Americans complain about the war in Iraq. We say that there is no reason for us to be there. Well there IS a reason for us to be there and that's OIL....The oil reserves in Iraq are equivalent to the Gold reserves in Ancient Egypt back in it's heyday...Do you expect us to sit by and let those Arabs control all that money when it can be coming our way? Hell no.....I figure that most countries are like teams in a league. They all compete against each other to be the champion. Or you could equate it to different corporations competing for money. Either way, it's better for the United States to control as many resources from as many different countries as possible...
The reason that I say that George Bush must lie to the American people is that he has to be politically correct..... Back in the days of Ancient Rome, the society that Democracy was founded on (for the ignorant), Julius Caesar could tell his people that he was about to go on a "Campaign" to Egypt, Mesopotamia, Constantinople (now Istanbull,Turkey) and rob and pillage the country and use the riches from that country and bring it back to the "Empire" of Rome....When the campaigns were successful, Caesar was praised as a hero.
Caesar had a philosophy for controlling the poor masses. He figured that if you kept the masses well fed and entertained, they will not rise up against you. So even though the poor weren't able to advance far beyond their class, and they were basically the servant class of the rich, they were still living far better than the peasants were living in a place like Egypt, where the peasant class was starved at will and with absolutely no regard for them....Caesar also knew that in order to keep food in the peasants stomachs and to supplement the taxes that he was collecting, he needed to acquire riches from other territories to bankroll all of it. So instead of going to the United Nations and having to make up stories about Weapons of Mass Destruction and "Imminent Threats" and the "War on Terror", President Bush should be able to go on television and tell the truth. He should say that we need that oil and the riches from Iraq and when that money comes in, it will trickle down to you little people. Then the people should applaud Bush for going out there on a "Campaign" and bringing home the riches.
You people may whine about the loss of Iraqi lives over there but do you REALLY care about them? No you don't...Why? Because you don't live over there and you don't know any of those Iraqi's from dirt. If the tables were turned, and there were Fat Iraqi "CamelCar Dads" riding around drinking beer and watching Camel races and drinking beer and living good, do you really think they would give a damn if little American kids were getting blown to bits with a few stray bombs? Hell no they wouldn't care. They would dance in the street. The Arabs would LOVE to walk the American streets in victory and rape and pillage the countryside and exploit us. They don't give a damn about us and neither does any citizen of any other country. They only care about themselves.
If you want to go to football games, drink beer, eat pizza, go to McDonalds, fill your gas tank, watch television, go to Disneyworld, or any of that All American crap, you MUST allow the President to go on the campaigns and conquer other countries and suck their resources dry for our benefit. That's the way of the world. Our enemies would do the exact same thing to us. I'm even convinced that the Arabs would be even worse if they had control of the world...I'm not about to stop eating pork and drinking liquor for anybody. Those Muslims have me messed up.
George Bush should have just got on television and said, "Saddam Hussein made my father look bad and I have to avenge what he did to my father...Plus there is plenty of oil to boot so that will bring more money into the economy"...Most people in the military would have said "HooRah" and would have been ready to fight and die for the cause. But because of all of these whiney babies in the general population, the President has to make up some *sh$t* to make all of the whiners happy.
If John Kerry is elected, nothing will change. The jobs will still be outsourced. The little people will be left behind, it won't be any different than it is now besides those Patriot laws "possibly" being repealed but I'm not even sure about that. But regardless, whoever the President is, you can't blame the man for trying to go out there and get that money. If I was President, I wouldn't give ANY country any aid unless it was in our direct interest to do so. And I would pillage every country that I could get my Army in, and I would Colonize other countries by way of their economy. And all of the benefits would fall on the little American with free health care, legalized drugs, and the promise that NOBODY would go hungry in the country if I could help it. But in order to get all of that for the poor of this country, I would have to take the money out of the hides of weaker countries.
Let Bush and any other president do what he wishes when it comes to plundering and pillaging weaker countries for our own benefit. I like being able to go to Church's Chicken and pay $1.99 for a three piece chicken dinner with mashed potatoes. I don't want to have to eat rice every day while I scrounge through the countryside trying to feed me and my family, that is if my family hasn't been blown to bits by some foreign bomb. I like to get into my car and drive around and enjoy the breeze and listen to the radio. I like being somewhat free to go where I want and do what I wish. You can't live like this in many other countries. Now there are countries out there where you can live even freer than you live in the United States, HOWEVER you must be born of the rich ruling class and if you aren't, there is no way in hell that you would have a chance to come out of poverty. Look at how messed up Haiti is. I admire the Haitians for being able to overthrow the slaveholders and take over their own country. But their country has been screwed since then. But it isn't screwed for EVERYBODY. If you are part of the rich elite of Haiti, the class of people who don't speak Haitian Creole but speak French only, you live like a god in Haiti. When I was a student at Howard University, I knew a girl who lived in my building who was the daughter of a high ranking politician in Haiti. Her college was paid for, she didn't have to work, the high rent of our student apartment was paid for, she wore the finest clothes, and she was a beautiful educated and ARROGANT woman. She had her own Chiropractor to work on her and she looked down on the poor of Haiti and when she would talk about Haiti, what she said seemed to have made perfect sense. But I know that the story would be different if I was talking to a daughter of a poor Haitian.
My point is that your class is already picked in other countries and it is next to impossible to escape it. It isn't true here in the United States....Even though the laws aren't geared to really help the poor person, one can still exploit the many available forms of government handouts to live comfortably. Then they can build on all of these FREE job training programs that the government offers so that you can get a REAL job. Then you can use the money from your real job to find a little business to start on the side and then you can build from there. Hopefully you will be able to hire someone else so that they wouldn't have to be dependent on handouts. I've been to welfare programs personally and I've seen the opportunities that they give you. At one time, my now ex-wife and I were getting food stamps. It also turned out that SHE was getting a welfare check and I didn't know about it but since I was married to her, I was responsible for half of the money she got.....Anyway, we had to go to a meeting at the welfare building that would show us the job training programs that they had available. If you wanted to keep collecting food stamps and welfare, it was mandatory that you either find a job or go into one of their free job training programs...
Now I'm not saying that you can train to be a doctor or a dentist for free through welfare cause that isn't true. But there were a lot of jobs that one could train for that they could get a job doing. They had home health care aides, auto mechanics, and those kind of factory jobs where you don't just pull a lever but where you have to use math and read plans and use computers and stuff. So they had some decent stuff there. And the thing is that they PAY you to learn the stuff! At the time, Howard University was running $12,000 a year and my parents and I had to come out of pocket for that with no guaranteed job. You can be a high school dropout and the government will pay you to get a job that you're almost guaranteed to get. How sweet is that?...So even though I saw all of those jobs, why is it that I still see these same negroes running around with no jobs? It's because deep down, they don't really want a job. They have gotten used to just getting by on food stamps and welfare and subsidized housing. They like staying up all night getting high and waking up whenever they feel like it....They like doing the quick hustles to get some money like selling dope and there bodies and stealing clothes and reselling them and all of that nigga business that I see going in in the neighborhood....I know how it is because I'm a lazy bastard myself. I've always wanted to do nothing but sit at home on my behind and talk *sh$t* and still make money. But the difference between me and the common negro is that I figured out a way to do it. Since I was a teenager, I racked my brain with this simple question. "How can I sit on my but and make money and still keep my hands baby soft?" I've tried all kinds of get rich quick schemes. I've tried damn near every thing there is to figure out a way to make money without having to actually work. People would tell me that it was impossible. That I MUST work in order to make money and I wouldn't believe them.
When I went to college, I witnessed unimaginable wealth by some of the students there. I grew up pretty comfortably but I know black kids who grew up in mansions and had full time maids. I used to see on campus kids who left school to start record labels. I've seen and talked to kids in college who became VJ's on MTV, who have written books that most of you African-American women read today, are on Movies and television shows that you watch all of the time right now....People who you see on television shows and movies making everybody laugh their asses off, I used to come home and see that same person crying in the living room in the dark because he had an argument with his girlfriend....But my point is that I've seen how one can become a prominent black person and I've known the children of prominent black writers, entertainers, and politicians and I knew that I would NOT be satisfied with regulating myself to become some mundane office worker like I used to be....I wondered why I was sitting in a cubicle making $25,000 a year as a secretary in a consulting firm in Washington, D.C. when I graduated from Howard University. Was it because I didn't apply myself properly when I was in school? You can say yes because I really had no idea that the people I would go smoke weed with and go to parties with would end up so *f$ck* famous and other kids like this girl I used to mess with who could barely pay for college and is now making over $700,000 a year as an Oral Surgeon while at the time I was a temporary clerical worker. But it wasn't just that. I still didn't find a way to make money while sitting on my behind. Luckily the internet came along and the lucrative business of internet pornography....I got fired from my $25,000 a year secretary job because they caught me looking at naked ladies on my computer...I told the female boss that she could go *f$ck* herself and within two weeks I had my first sale on the internet slinging smut.. That was in 2001 and I have never looked back. There is no way that you could just throw up a website in 2004 and do what I did back then. The gravy train has long pulled out and I caught the train by running and just hopping on the caboose while it was almost going full speed. That's how close I was to missing the gravy train.
But what if I was never caught looking at porn or fired from that job? It was a sweet job. All I had to do was stuff some envelopes and call the caterers to set up lunch for the meetings. I was able to gorge myself on gourmet catered food all of the time and the office was near one of the prime intersections of downtown Washington, D.C. If you know D.C., you'll know that there's plenty of action to be had in the area of 17th and K Streets N.W. I don't know if I would even be doing what I am doing now. I would *sh$t* on a paycheck that looked like the ones I was getting as a secretary back then but I was just complacent and satisfied with what I had back then. Being complacent is dangerous and I'm glad that I got a kick in my butt from them firing me....THANKS!
If Kerry gets elected, the poorer countries will still be getting raped for our benefit. You as an American should just accept it because there isn't anything you can do about it. Go pick up a DVD and order a pizza and STOP CRYING about how bad this country is....And I'm not saying that only black people do this because it isn't true. There are PLENTY of white people and people of other races in this country who bitch and moan and won't do anything to better themselves due to laziness and complacency. If I wasn't a lucky bastard, maybe I'd be at work right now slaving away and not sitting here preaching to you about how you should get yours. I never liked to have people who already made it to tell me to get mine but now I got mine, I see where they were coming from.
See what happens with a little beer and some weed? I've gotten completely off subject and ranted in this story but oh well...Time to raise my legs in my recliner chair and watch a little more television until I get hungry...

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:45 am
by Steve Spurrier III
gambit187 wrote:If you want to go to football games, drink beer, eat pizza, go to McDonalds, fill your gas tank, watch television, go to Disneyworld, or any of that All American crap, you MUST allow the President to go on the campaigns and conquer other countries and suck their resources dry for our benefit.


That's right about where I stopped reading...

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:57 am
by gambit187
Steve Spurrier III wrote:
gambit187 wrote:If you want to go to football games, drink beer, eat pizza, go to McDonalds, fill your gas tank, watch television, go to Disneyworld, or any of that All American crap, you MUST allow the President to go on the campaigns and conquer other countries and suck their resources dry for our benefit.


That's right about where I stopped reading...


SS3, just curious as to why

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:11 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
I'm sorry, I just read the rest of it and I've realized that this doesn't even deserve a response. All I'm going to say is that this guy has no clue how world economics work, and that's it...

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:18 pm
by gambit187
Steve Spurrier III wrote:I'm sorry, I just read the rest of it and I've realized that this doesn't even deserve a response. All I'm going to say is that this guy has no clue how world economics work, and that's it...


Well I only asked becuase I AM BORED AS HELL AT WORK, it was cool that you took the time to read it.....LOL but really I like some of his rants, he has a very open and honest opinion on alot of stuff(especially black people) , including his race. He also does make some good points from his life experiences at Howard U. I try not to judge what he writes but learn from it.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:20 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
What have you learned?

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:29 pm
by gambit187
Steve Spurrier III wrote:What have you learned?


Well not so much of the learning part but of the realization and affirmation of certain things. And not from just this rant from a bunch of rants on his rant page.

I kinda dont wanna offend anyone so if you want we can discuss this in pm.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:31 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
That's okay, I don't really care, I was just wondering if there was some lesson that you had taken out of all of this...

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:35 pm
by gambit187
Steve Spurrier III wrote:That's okay, I don't really care, I was just wondering if there was some lesson that you had taken out of all of this...


Well if you want i can post another of his Rants and see what your opinion of it is. I kinda would value another persons opinion if you feel like it.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:43 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
I didn't see any value in his first rant, so I'm really not interested in seeing another. My question was if you found any value in his rants, and from what I can tell, you don't, but just find them interesting and amusing, which is cool...

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:49 pm
by gambit187
Steve Spurrier III wrote:I didn't see any value in his first rant, so I'm really not interested in seeing another. My question was if you found any value in his rants, and from what I can tell, you don't, but just find them interesting and amusing, which is cool...


Well yes i do find them amusing and interesting, but some of his views of black people as a black male fall alot in the lines of my thinking. I used to think I was crazy or something till i started reading his rants and he kinda affirmed to me that it was alright to think what i was thinking.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:04 pm
by Justice Hog
Why focus on Bush and Kerry.

All politicians lie (generally) to the American public. Their mission (generally) is to get the consensus vote of their constituents while at the same time trying to please big business and other competing interests. They can't please everyone all of the time...so they lie (and/or omit things) to one side to help sway the other side. This is a fact of political life.

This is why I never see myself being a politician. I'm a "call-it-like-I-see-it" person and (I think) I have too much integrity; therefore, I would be one rare commodity. I would take the podium and call "Bullsh*t" when I see "BullSh*t". While that may actually be endearing to some people, it will also tend to offend people.

I, for one, live for the day when I see a politician tell his/her advisors to pack sand...and give his/her TRUE opinion on an issue....public opinion be damned. If one such politican ever appears, right or wrong, I would truly admire him/her.

I'll just continue to fly below the radar and vote for who I think is best.....and, since Kelly chose Edwards, it is certainly NOT gonna be those two inexperienced (when you consider both) knuckleheads!

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:29 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
Unlike my fellow Skins fans who have commented so far, I read through the entire rant.

GAMBIT as a "proud, black, educated, wealthy, etc." man you claim to be, you really should be ashamed to post this. I don't mean to personally attack you (and mods, please forgive me if you think I am), but, man, I FEEL ASHAMED FOR YOU.

As a man of color, it hurts me to read what this cat is saying about his "road to fortune". He makes fun of "negroes" because he "is one"???!!!! He rises above the rest by "riding" the porn-industry chain, no matter how many of the "negroes" (whom he wishes to enlighten to his "master plan for success") he enslaves on his way up?

Pornography, while an extremely lucrative business for some, is also a trap for others. Families have been broken up and lives have been messed up because it becomes an addiction.

You could do all people of color a favor by deleting this thread. It ain't helping our cause, bro.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:20 pm
by Irn-Bru
JH, there are some politicians with a good amount of integrity (or, at least, I think they do). Too bad you have to (all but) write-in to vote for them, and it's about as effective as not voting at all. . .practically speaking.

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:10 pm
by gambit187
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Unlike my fellow Skins fans who have commented so far, I read through the entire rant.

GAMBIT as a "proud, black, educated, wealthy, etc." man you claim to be, you really should be ashamed to post this. I don't mean to personally attack you (and mods, please forgive me if you think I am), but, man, I FEEL ASHAMED FOR YOU.

As a man of color, it hurts me to read what this cat is saying about his "road to fortune". He makes fun of "negroes" because he "is one"???!!!! He rises above the rest by "riding" the porn-industry chain, no matter how many of the "negroes" (whom he wishes to enlighten to his "master plan for success") he enslaves on his way up?

Pornography, while an extremely lucrative business for some, is also a trap for others. Families have been broken up and lives have been messed up because it becomes an addiction.

You could do all people of color a favor by deleting this thread. It ain't helping our cause, bro.



Well Redeemed skins alot of what he says is true in some of his rants. I do not agree with his line of work, or everything in all his rants, but that is on him. He talks about how WE would rather live with our parents and buy an expensive cars like lexus and benz that we cannt even afford and we wont even invest in simple things like computers. He makes fun of negros that are lazy, want hand outs, do not take advantage of all the programs out there to help people,do not think its cool to read, and are always talking about this so-called man that is keeping them down. THATS WHAT CHRIS ROCK DOES AND WE ALL LAUGH AT IT.

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:59 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
gambit187 wrote:THATS WHAT CHRIS ROCK DOES AND WE ALL LAUGH AT IT.

As a matter of fact, I REALLY don't think he is funny. Quite annoying, and his use of the race card in his comedy certainly fills HIS pockets and no one else's.

I hear what you're saying though, but I was just turned off by the fact that your comments seemed to honor this guy's crap. There are other brothers out there who say similar stuff in a more respectable fashion, yet still manage to "keep it real", know what I mean?

Peace, bro. :wink:

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:02 pm
by hailskins666
There are other brothers out there who say stuff out there in a more respectable fashion, yet still manage to "keep it real", know what I mean?
ROTFALMAO when keepin it real, goes wrong.

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:18 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
hailskins666 wrote:
There are other brothers out there who say stuff out there in a more respectable fashion, yet still manage to "keep it real", know what I mean?
ROTFALMAO when keepin it real, goes wrong.

Thanks for keepin' it real by pointing out my error. :wink: Corrected it. Again, thanks.

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:20 pm
by gambit187
REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:
gambit187 wrote:THATS WHAT CHRIS ROCK DOES AND WE ALL LAUGH AT IT.

As a matter of fact, I REALLY don't think he is funny. Quite annoying, and his use of the race card in his comedy certainly fills HIS pockets and no one else's.

I hear what you're saying though, but I was just turned off by the fact that your comments seemed to honor this guy's crap. There are other brothers out there who say similar stuff in a more respectable fashion, yet still manage to "keep it real", know what I mean?

Peace, bro. :wink:


Redeemedskin what do u think about what cosby said

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:37 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
gambit187 wrote:Redeemedskin what do u think about what cosby said

The first time he said something (NAACP Meeting?), I was shocked... especially, from the headlines printed about his comments. I thought he had fallen off his rocker. I read part of his comments, and he pointed out some realities about today's inner city youth and the reponsibility of the parents to "fix" things.

Since, he has spoken again, and I don't want to critique what he said, since it can ALSO be seen as "Chris-Rock-like" words, or may be seen as a lotlike the rant you posted. The differences between Cosby's and the aforementioned people's comments are:

1) He doesn't make money off of his words. As a matter of fact, Cosby's paying for kids to go to school: http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/07/08/cosby.students.ap/index.html

Some might say he was the Chris Rock of yesteryear, but I'm looking at what he's doing NOW.

2) He really wants "his people" to better themselves. He points out today's youth because you HAVE to start when kids are young. Good habits are a lot more difficult to learn as you get older. He's not promoting a vice, or get-rich-quick scheme. He's preaching hard work and dedication.

Cosby's definitely making headlines. It's shocking to the general population to read such things (in this era of PCness), but I hope it's a kick in the pants for those to whom the words are intended.