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New faces...same ole skins

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:03 pm
by Royoversean
I am not trying to talk crap just want to know what you think.

Just like the last 5 years you guys have spent rediculous amounts of money...Is it worth it? This means in the future you guys will have no money! Do you really think you guys can win the super bowl in the next 2 years, before you guys go to salery cap hell?

oh yeah...Roy over sean!

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:09 pm
by ike075
Two words for you JOE GIBBS. You can pay all the money in the word for talent but if you don’t have a conductor to tell them when to do their thing it ain’t gonna happen. If you saw him the first time around you will know why he will make it happen this time around. Also, you should search through this board to see why we will not have salary cap issues. It is too long to rehash. Welcome aboard! BTW – What team do you favor?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:11 pm
by Royoversean
ike075 wrote:Two words for you JOE GIBBS. You can pay all the money in the word for talent but if you don’t have a conductor to tell them when to do their thing it ain’t gonna happen. If you saw him the first time around you will know why he will make it happen this time around. Also, you should search through this board to see why we will not have salary cap issues. It is too long to rehash. Welcome aboard! BTW – What team do you favor?


Take a deep breath...The Cowboys

How can you not have salarey cap issues?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:11 pm
by Royoversean
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:13 pm
by RobSkins1
Aaaaaaa see this is why we need to make this a Skins board only :lol:

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:17 pm
by RobSkins1
Dont you have a Pukes board to talk into? Or do people just dont care about the pukes like I know I dont?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:18 pm
by Royoversean
RobSkins1 wrote:Dont you have a Pukes board to talk into? Or do people just dont care about the pukes like I know I dont?


:lol: Is there an adults only section?

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:21 pm
by ike075
Naaaah. We got gambit187 who is a cowboys fan and he is a great addition to the board. Royoversean I would love to answer the cap question in full but it really is not a short answer. It is a combo of people restructuring/being let go/ and a probable increase in the cap. If you recall several years back they said the same thing. We didn’t end up winning but we didn’y lose an excess amount of player to cap reasons (at least anymore then any other team). Maybe someone can post a link to one of the lengthy full explanations. As long as you are not hostile welcome aboard!

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:21 pm
by RobSkins1
I dont know why dont you go find one and tell me :shock:

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:22 pm
by kkryan
Look what Parcells did to your 5-11 team and Gibbs has much more talent to work with. This team may never see salary cap issues once the new tv contracts are negotiated. What an idiot you are??

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:23 pm
by Royoversean
ike075 wrote:Naaaah. We got gambit187 who is a cowboys fan and he is a great addition to the board. Royoversean I would love to answer the cap question in full but it really is not a short answer. It is a combo of people restructuring/being let go/ and a probable increase in the cap. If you recall several years back they said the same thing. We didn’t end up winning but we didn’y lose an excess amount of player to cap reasons (at least anymore then any other team). Maybe someone can post a link to one of the lengthy full explanations. As long as you are not hostile welcome aboard!



Thank you! I come in peace!

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:23 pm
by ike075
Hey Robskins1 there is a forum for trash talk. Royoversean was polite and asked a fair question.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:25 pm
by RobSkins1
ok ike075 what about this...we make a section on the board for all nfl fans to talk about what ever like wanna talk about that deals with football, and we keep this skins only?
Cause i realy dont like trash talking

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:27 pm
by ike075
Um….Boss is going to see these postings and is not going to be very happy with the welcoming thus far. Royoversean most people on this site will not attack you like this for participating (unless you go into the trash talking forum).

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:28 pm
by Royoversean
kkryan wrote:Look what Parcells did to your 5-11 team and Gibbs has much more talent to work with. This team may never see salary cap issues once the new tv contracts are negotiated. What an idiot you are??


Calm down! Lay off the hormone pills. I am not trying to start one off these war treds ive been in enogh of them to know they solve nothing.

You did however make a good point about parcells. But I never said Joe could't bring you guys back! I only asked an honest question about the cap!

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:28 pm
by RobSkins1
ok well if a puke talks I just think is trash talking so I get mad and wanna kill (can I say that if not sorry) pukes

no not realy but it does makes me mad, and yes he was trash talking just in a nice way

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:29 pm
by Royoversean
ike075 wrote:Um….Boss is going to see these postings and is not going to be very happy with the welcoming thus far. Royoversean most people on this site will not attack you like this for participating (unless you go into the trash talking forum).


:)

Re: New faces...same ole skins

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:31 pm
by 1niksder
Royoversean wrote:I am not trying to talk crap just want to know what you think.

Just like the last 5 years you guys have spent rediculous amounts of money...Is it worth it? This means in the future you guys will have no money! Do you really think you guys can win the super bowl in the next 2 years, before you guys go to salery cap hell?

oh yeah...Roy over sean!


For 5 years you fans of that team in Texas have been saying in 2 years you'll be in SC trouble (every team says they have cap issuses... how often do you here The Danny Crying about the money he is spending

It's trial and error with the Danny

1. Over pay for Older Vets .... that did not work
2. Pick up seasoned Vets regardless of Vets.... that didn"t work either

He tried ..it didn't work... But he did say OH Now we're screwed I've blown up the cap!!

He came up with Plan B


3.Create a farm system (N.Y.Jets)to draw players from once they have proven themselfs....Work in progress

4. The BEST move of all..spend the money on COACHES to continue to develope the players that are here


oh yeah...Roy over sean!


I agree ..Id take Roy over Sean too!

Roy Williams
over
Sean (Puffy- P-Diddy or what ever it is now) Combs :lol:

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:34 pm
by John Manfreda
Why do all these Cowboys fans come to this website? Don't they have anything better to do than go on a Redskins website? No we will not be in salary cap hell. Another thing is that a lot of the contracts are back loaded they will use them for two years that they need them, that is the part of the contract that is cheap and than when they get exspensive they cut them. Doesn't hurt the cap at all.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:36 pm
by John Manfreda
Sean Taylor is going to be twice the player Roy Williams will ever be.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:36 pm
by 1niksder
ike075 wrote:Um….Boss is going to see these postings and is not going to be very happy with the welcoming thus far. Royoversean most people on this site will not attack you like this for participating (unless you go into the trash talking forum).


roboversean did post a Redskin related :?: we need to cut these fan from that team in texas some slack...look at who the root for. :evil: They already got issues

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:46 pm
by Royoversean
John Manfreda wrote:Sean Taylor is going to be twice the player Roy Williams will ever be.


Roy never got run over by greg Jones. I'll admit they are both the best safties in the game, even at there young ages, but my personal pref. is Roy. And I would be shoked if yours was'nt sean...I never should have typed that!

Re: New faces...same ole skins

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 1:50 pm
by Royoversean
1niksder wrote:[Sean (Puffy- P-Diddy or what ever it is now) Combs :lol:


I'd take his ex-wife over both of them! :D

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 2:01 pm
by Irn-Bru
Weclome aboard Royoversean, you'll take a lot of crap being in this territory but I kind of enjoy the (usually) friendly banter between fans on the site.

Like others, I'd have to go ahead and point to history when we talk about supposed "salary cap troubles." One of the few teams that actually ran into this monster was the Ravens the year after their Superbowl. As far as I can tell, the Redskins have kept 95% of the players that they wanted to keep (or traded them for the likes of Clinton Portis[!]). D. Gardner, James Thrash (who we've gotten back, of course), Steven Alexander, and Stephen Davis were the only players that I can recall being heartbroken that they had to leave (I guess Brad Johnson too).

Of those guys, only Davis has really produced *since* leaving (despite getting paid more); and 99% of Redskins fans know that it wasn't really salary cap that drove him out of town but S.S.

Brad Johnson has been good, but I'll take Ramsey any day of the week over him.

I don't know, my argument isn't as strong as when I started, but I think that with all the doomsday talk surrounding Skins' salary cap numbers, you'd see a bigger loss of key players than that list.

Posted: Sun May 09, 2004 2:02 pm
by RobSkins1
Well I dont like you Royoversean :shock: naw your ok, just like most pukes