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Former 49ers' LB Reuben Foster was claimed by the Washington Redskins, per source.
Now the question becomes whether or when the league will suspend him.
riggofan wrote:Reunite him with his Alabama friends and hope they can straighten him out?
That's a whole lot to straighten out.On January 13, 2018, it was announced Foster had been arrested in Alabama by the Tuscaloosa County Sheriff's Office for possession of marijuana.[57] He was released after posting a $2,500 bond.
On February 11, 2018, Foster was arrested on suspicion of domestic violence, threats, and assault weapon possession charges. On April 12, he was charged with felony counts of multiple domestic violence, possession of a weapon, and infliction of bodily harm. On April 25, Foster's girlfriend through her lawyer made a statement saying “(Foster) did not strike her, injure her or threaten her,” and that the domestic violence claims were made after Foster attempted to end the relationship after she told him her injuries resulted from a fight with another woman. On May 17, Elissa Ennis testified under oath that she had fabricated the story "as a money scheme".
On November 24, 2018, Foster was arrested on probable cause misdemeanor domestic violence charges. The next day, he was released by the 49ers.
Details from Jerry Brewster in the Post:You would think that, after nearly two decades of endless controversy under owner Daniel Snyder, Washington would be smarter. You would think the franchise would be careful, at least. But the Redskins have been lost for too long. They are numb, indifferent. They are reckless. Foster will only help them go one way: lower. They’ll remember that sinking feeling.
That really isn't the issue, 32 teams understand this! Why did 31 pass?riggofan wrote:I understand with the DV accusations why people are upset about this. But strictly as a football move it looks like the Redskins are paying $275K for a guy who will not play in 2018. If he is able to clear things up and get reinstated, they'll have him under contract for 2019 on his rookie deal. That's plenty of time to figure out what is going on with him personally and decide if they want him on the football team or not.
Just saying I'm finding all of the hand wringing and sports writers' "Redskins condone domestic violence!" stuff a little overwrought. If Foster is convicted or more details come out about his situation, they can waive him anytime.
I don't know, man. Why did 31 teams pass multiple times on Derrius Guice?DEHog wrote:That really isn't the issue, 32 teams understand this! Why did 31 pass?
My opinion is Bruce Allen and Jay Gruden have a hard-on for Alabama players any way they can get them. That's not a bad thing. Neither is giving a kid (24 is still a kid) a chance to grow up. But when you're the Redskins and your reputation is that you can't even get your own fans to show up for home games any negative PR is a bad idea.riggofan wrote:I understand with the DV accusations why people are upset about this. But strictly as a football move it looks like the Redskins are paying $275K for a guy who will not play in 2018. If he is able to clear things up and get reinstated, they'll have him under contract for 2019 on his rookie deal. That's plenty of time to figure out what is going on with him personally and decide if they want him on the football team or not.
Just saying I'm finding all of the hand wringing and sports writers' "Redskins condone domestic violence!" stuff a little overwrought. If Foster is convicted or more details come out about his situation, they can waive him anytime.
Sorry I should have elaborated more. I do think other teams are interested just none willing to take the PR hit while the ink is still drying on his arrest warrants! I think they took a wait and see approach, whereas the Redskins knew they weren’t going to get him once he hit the FA market.riggofan wrote:I don't know, man. Why did 31 teams pass multiple times on Derrius Guice?DEHog wrote:That really isn't the issue, 32 teams understand this! Why did 31 pass?
My guess is that the Redskins have several former teammates of Foster's who are vouching for him.
If your opinion is just that NFL teams should not roster anyone accused of domestic violence under any circumstances, that's a fair opinion.
Yeah but let's be honest, they're already in the toilet as far as PR goes. Not sure how much one more turd in the can is going to matter.Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:But when you're the Redskins and your reputation is that you can't even get your own fans to show up for home games any negative PR is a bad idea.
https://thefandc.radio.com/reuben-foste ... otball-fitHere's a huge reason why the Redskins likely pulled the trigger and why it makes more sense. Brown is due to count $8.75 million against the 2019 salary cap. The Redskins would incur a $3 million dead cap hit if they were to release him, saving $5.75 million in overall cap space.
Mason Foster only counts $2.25 million against the 2019 cap in the final year of his deal, which is basically nothing for a leader and sturdy veteran.
Because the Redskins could have to pay over $25 million in cap space to the quarterback position, they are going to need to trim wherever possible. Assuming he's on the team in 2019, Foster would only cost the Redskins $1.28 million, per OverTheCap.com.
The Redskins are looking at more than $12 million at inside linebacker for 2019. If the troubled Foster stays clean, they can shed that total cap output to a little over $6 million. That's significant savings and affords them greater flexibility at other positions.
This is a move that is already being crushed and rightfully so, but if we're evaluating on a pure football and salary cap basis, it makes perfect sense for the Washington Redskins and that's why they did it.
Ah yeah well there is your answer. Claiming him off waivers, they get him on his rookie deal. Its a desperate move, no doubt. It also sounds today like the league was pressuring teams to NOT claim him, and the Redskins told them to piss off. (When has the league done our team any favors recently???)DEHog wrote:I think they took a wait and see approach, whereas the Redskins knew they weren’t going to get him once he hit the FA market.
Honestly man, its not even about second chances to me. It just seems like the details aren't completely out there yet, and he hasn't been convicted of anything. If the facts come out and its shown he's just a complete dirt bag who is beating up women, then release him. The difference with Ray Rice is that we all saw that freaking video.DEHog wrote:I’m all for second chances, it’s not black and white for me. That said the NFL hypocrisy knows no bounds!! Ray Rice has to be wondering what did he do different…of course we all know the answer to that.
So, draft a QB or two, which you need to do anyway according to the experts on this site, and pay him the rookie salary. Problem solved without all of the rest of it. I don't buy Russell's explanation. They have to think his talent is worth the risk. I'm not saying they don't need cap space. I'm saying that's not the only or primary reason for the move. They were planning on paying the Alex Smith QB money out in any case.riggofan wrote:Yeah but let's be honest, they're already in the toilet as far as PR goes. Not sure how much one more turd in the can is going to matter.Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:But when you're the Redskins and your reputation is that you can't even get your own fans to show up for home games any negative PR is a bad idea.
I thought Chris Russell did a good job breaking down why the Skins are willing to gamble:
https://thefandc.radio.com/reuben-foste ... otball-fitHere's a huge reason why the Redskins likely pulled the trigger and why it makes more sense. Brown is due to count $8.75 million against the 2019 salary cap. The Redskins would incur a $3 million dead cap hit if they were to release him, saving $5.75 million in overall cap space.
Mason Foster only counts $2.25 million against the 2019 cap in the final year of his deal, which is basically nothing for a leader and sturdy veteran.
Because the Redskins could have to pay over $25 million in cap space to the quarterback position, they are going to need to trim wherever possible. Assuming he's on the team in 2019, Foster would only cost the Redskins $1.28 million, per OverTheCap.com.
The Redskins are looking at more than $12 million at inside linebacker for 2019. If the troubled Foster stays clean, they can shed that total cap output to a little over $6 million. That's significant savings and affords them greater flexibility at other positions.
This is a move that is already being crushed and rightfully so, but if we're evaluating on a pure football and salary cap basis, it makes perfect sense for the Washington Redskins and that's why they did it.
He's not arguing that its the only or primary reason. The article begins with:Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:So, draft a QB or two, which you need to do anyway according to the experts on this site, and pay him the rookie salary. Problem solved without all of the rest of it. I don't buy Russell's explanation. They have to think his talent is worth the risk. I'm not saying they don't need cap space. I'm saying that's not the only or primary reason for the move. They were planning on paying the Alex Smith QB money out in any case.
"His talent is worth the risk" and "they need cap space help" can both be true.This is a needed and very good football move if Foster can somehow act like a normal, reasonable human being instead of the monster that he appears to be.
Foster is more talented than Mason Foster and he's also more athletic, and probably better instinctively than Zach Brown.
Well he could very well be guilty and not get convicted...just a desperate move by a desperate franchise that knows it can no longer live off the past and must win to bring the fans back.riggofan wrote:Ah yeah well there is your answer. Claiming him off waivers, they get him on his rookie deal. Its a desperate move, no doubt. It also sounds today like the league was pressuring teams to NOT claim him, and the Redskins told them to piss off. (When has the league done our team any favors recently???)
Honestly man, its not even about second chances to me. It just seems like the details aren't completely out there yet, and he hasn't been convicted of anything. If the facts come out and its shown he's just a complete dirt bag who is beating up women, then release him. The difference with Ray Rice is that we all saw that freaking video.
Both are undoubtedly true. I'd like to give the team the benefit of the doubt but this has Bruce Allen doing Bruce Allen things all over it. There's no way in hell Doug Williams or Brian LaFemina wanted to sign Reuben Foster. If this isn't one more case of Bruce Allen doing whatever the hell he wants, damn the opposition and damn the consequences, I'll eat a Dallas Cowboys hat.riggofan wrote:"His talent is worth the risk" and "they need cap space help" can both be true.
Very possible.Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:I'd like to give the team the benefit of the doubt but this has Bruce Allen doing Bruce Allen things all over it. There's no way in hell Doug Williams or Brian LaFemina wanted to sign Reuben Foster. If this isn't one more case of Bruce Allen doing whatever the hell he wants, damn the opposition and damn the consequences, I'll eat a Dallas Cowboys hat.
are you kidding me? they're hoping that it will turn out that he did nothing wrong ... this guy's nearly as stupid as the 2 nut jobs he works with"Williams admitted that the organization does not know much about the actual circumstances of Foster's recent arrest, and is just hoping that it will turn out that he did nothing wrong. "The most important thing is, we're hoping that things come out and it wasn't the way that everything has been perceived," he said. "We don't know that. We have to wait and see. If things are as bad as it's made out to be, he might not get a chance to play."
If Williams or anyone else in the Washington organization thought these responses would make the criticism go away, they are wrong. This will -- and should -- only make said criticism louder, as the answers Williams gave show an incredible lack of tact, media awareness, and especially, caring for victims of domestic violence."
you're wrong ... there are not many franchises (if any) that would even consider doing something as stupid as thisaswas71788 wrote:Let me say emphatically that I certainly don't condone what Foster is accused of but seems to me that the criticism towards the Redskins is the usual bash the Redskins mentality. There have been dozens of players (Peterson for one), both currently on teams or now retired that are/were charged of the same thing, domestic violence of some form. Many were cut and claimed by another team and many are still with the same team. There seems to be a double standard, one for the Redskins and one for other teams. If the Saints or the Patriots had claimed Foster, they would be applauded for giving the player another chance. If the NFL were to ban player for such charges, there would be dozens of lawsuits to protect the players rights, like the one for Kaepernick (sp?).