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Redskins after 8 games ...
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:05 am
by SkinsJock
we're almost there - 3 games after being at 3-2 it's looking a lot like 3-5 at the half way point
this from Kyle Tasman yesterday ...
The NFL trade deadline has come and gone, and the Washington Redskins remained quiet throughout.
As previously reported by Jason La Canfora of CBS Sports, the Redskins had retained interest in trading for a wide receiver on deadline day, however no suitable moves materialized for the team.
With NFC East rivals the Philadelphia Eagles making a splash by acquiring running back Jay Ajayi, Redskins fans had hoped that their own team would move for a player of similar quality. That would remain nothing more than a dream however, as the Redskins front office failed to address the needs of the team during a crucial stretch of the season.
With injuries mounting and the offense failing to gain much production on the perimeter, the Redskins could have bolstered their chances at claiming a Wild Card slot in the playoffs. Instead, the front office once again stayed quiet, instead deciding to roll the dice on the rest of the season instead of strengthening one of the multitude of areas that desperately needs help.
While it's unclear if any contact or attempt was made for a player, the inability to get a deal over the line will leave a sour taste in the mouth of Redskins fans, who for too long have been put through the gauntlet by a front office that seemingly has everything but winning as their top priority.
The fans deserve better, and that's been the case for the last decade.
how is it possible to strengthen even "one of the multitude of areas that desperately need help" by the same people that caused this to happen in the first place
are you kidding me - after what we've seen on the field recently and what has happened injury wise the Redskins are not even close to making a run at the playoffs
"we'll be OK next season" time is almost here
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:36 am
by El Mexican
Clean slate seems very likely for next season.
There's not a single area where the team looks good. None. One injury to the unit and it's basically useless (OL, DL, LB, RB, TE, QB, DB).
Paper- thin depth and lack of talent all-around . Again, as I have said, this is a planning mistake.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:59 pm
by mastdark81
El Mexican wrote:Clean slate seems very likely for next season.
There's not a single area where the team looks good. None. One injury to the unit and it's basically useless (OL, DL, LB, RB, TE, QB, DB).
Paper- thin depth and lack of talent all-around . Again, as I have said, this is a planning mistake.
I don't know I think our roster is decent. No team have depth like they would like. At the end of the day it comes down to star players playing better than the star players on the other teams. You can be surrounded by a bunch of average guys if we have hall of famers on the team...which we don't. That is my whole thing with Kirk Cousins. He is a good quarterback but I feel you need a top 5-8 guy to win you a Super Bowl. Will he be that in a few years? I doubt it b/c young guys keep coming in the league and hopscotching over him (Dak, Wentz, possibly Watson).
We also don't have that top 5-8 defense neither, nor top special teams unit.
The bigger question is after year 4 of Jay Gruden and year what 6??? of Bruce Allen why we are not considered a playoff contender? Those guys are not getting the job done.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:40 pm
by hitmandm
A clean slate is an 80% chance right now.
It is very telling that the 49ers traded a 2nd rounder for Garappolo instead of FAing Captain Pick. Captain Pick is a choking joke of a fake franchise QB and needs to be somewhere else ASAP.
Gruden is a stupid fat Arena League Coach. He needs to go back to the Arena League because this is the NFL and he doesn't have what it takes to be here.
They both should be gone.
I wouldn't be surprised if after Gruden gets fired, they bring back RG3 as a stop gap until we develop another drafted QB. Gruden ran RG3 into a tree and then convinced Redskins fans he wasn't good enough- as if we all don't remember 2012. I feel that Danny will throw RG3 a lifeline and draft a QB to develop. Hopefully they do not draft a QB who has the yips and cannot rise up under pressure.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 1:56 pm
by riggofan
hitmandm wrote:It is very telling that the 49ers traded a 2nd rounder for Garappolo instead of FAing Captain Pick. Captain Pick is a choking joke of a fake franchise QB and needs to be somewhere else ASAP.
Captain Pick? Seriously? We're still sticking with that tired crap? Here's all 18 QBs who have more than Kirk's 4 INTs this year:
Kizer
Newton
Siemian
Roethlisberger
Dalton
Flacco
Watson
McCown
Palmer
Carr
Rivers
Ryan
Winston
Bortles
Cutler
Glennon
Manning
Wentz
Through seven games he has as many picks as Brees, Goff, Mariotta, Prescott, Stafford and Wilson.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:44 am
by Deadskins
El Mexican wrote:Clean slate seems very likely for next season.
There's not a single area where the team looks good. None. One injury to the unit and it's basically useless (OL, DL, LB, RB, TE, QB, DB).
Paper- thin depth and lack of talent all-around . Again, as I have said, this is a planning mistake.
Actually, the team looks good in several areas, despite multiple (not one), significant injuries to several units.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:40 am
by SkinsJock
I don't see a huge roster turnover either PLUS we have some really good coaching by Callahan, Munusky and Tomsula, especially when you consider the injuries
HUGE win for the franchise to go to 4-4 and steal a win against the hated Seahawks
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:38 pm
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:I don't see a huge roster turnover either PLUS we have some really good coaching by Callahan, Munusky and Tomsula, especially when you consider the injuries
So petty to write stuff like this. Like Gruden had nothing to do with this team's success.
The o-line wasn't good at all Sunday btw. We ran for 51 yards, couldn't move the ball and gave up six sacks. I give Bill Callahan credit for patching that group together, but it wasn't exactly coaching wizardry at work on the line. The team gritted through it, defense kept them in the game, Cousins didn't turn the ball over and made just enough plays to get the win.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:09 pm
by DarthMonk
Looks like we have a DC.
Scot's board was good to us this past draft - glad we are so deep at corner.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:38 am
by SkinsJock
riggofan wrote:SkinsJock wrote:I don't see a huge roster turnover either PLUS we have some really good coaching by Callahan, Munusky and Tomsula, especially when you consider the injuries
So petty to write stuff like this. Like Gruden had nothing to do with this team's success.
The o-line wasn't good at all Sunday btw. We ran for 51 yards, couldn't move the ball and gave up six sacks. I give Bill Callahan credit for patching that group together, but it wasn't exactly coaching wizardry at work on the line. The team gritted through it, defense kept them in the game, Cousins didn't turn the ball over and made just enough plays to get the win.
this is more about the big picture than the last game - btw Cousins QBR was not great - finding a way to be 4-4 instead of 3-5 is really great but we did steal this win from a hated rival that rarely loses to teams it should beat at home - the effort from everyone (including Cousins and Gruden) was really about finding a way to win a game - that doesn't happen much the past 10 years
at the halfway point, despite the injuries, Callahan, Manusky & Tomsula are demonstrating what can happen when you have good coaching
Cousins is proving, that the FO made a big mistake not signing him to a LTD earlier
Jay Gruden is showing that he's possibly the best HC we can expect given the 2 bozos in charge
onward we go and hopefully we find a way to steal a couple more W's PLUS win the games we should win
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:11 pm
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:onward we go and hopefully we find a way to steal a couple more W's PLUS win the games we should win
I see the Vikings are starting Case Keenum this weekend. I don't know that this is a game we SHOULD win. (The Vikings are still a 6-2 team.) But I agree with your sentiment, and this is a home game that we really need to win to keep pace in the NFC.
As far as Gruden goes, I'll just say that was two weeks in a row where he (and his coaching staff) had an undermanned, underdog team ready to play. They had a good plan going into that Cowboys game, they were in that game up until the blocked FG. That was much more of a game than I expected personally. I thought they had a good plan going into the Seattle game too, and that week it worked out for them. I hope they can keep it going.
btw did I mention how glad I was to see D Hall back on the field last weekend? That was awesome.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:18 pm
by riggofan
Keim today:
Redskins TE Jordan Reed, G Brandon Scherff, WR Jamison Crowder, TE Niles Paul, C Spencer Long, G Shawn Lauvao all are going through individual drills. All did not play Sunday.
Fingers crossed.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:34 am
by SkinsJock
let's not forget, there are 8 games to go
it's been a bit of a roller coaster recently with the team looking really good and then dealing with major hits on the injury front - we were 3-2 and then 3-4 ... PLUS - looking at 2 games we are most likely losing - now we're at 4-4 with a decent shot at being 5-4 ...
this coming Sunday is suddenly looking good because we're facing a Vikings squad with Case Keenum instead of Sam Bradford and the real chance of winning 2 games that we probably should not have won, all things considered
I'm kind of hopeful that we can take this game - this is a much better defense than Seattle - on the other side, this Viking offense is not as good with Case Keenum - Keenum is not doing terribly but the Vikings are much better with Bradford
winning this game would give us a really good shot at going 6-2 for the next 8 = 10-6
HEY! - 5-3 for the next 8 would not be bad
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:43 pm
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:HEY! - 5-3 for the next 8 would not be bad
Don't do it, man. Don't start looking ahead!
Seems like Sunday could be a real defensive slog. D was so good against Seattle. Could make a big difference for us if they can get after Keenum.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:02 pm
by SkinsJock
Case Keenum had a career best day but Kirk Cousins is putting together a nice statistical season
it's onto the Saints at home and while they're on a win streak, they're not that good - after beating the Seahawks in Seattle, we can win this
not long ago we won 7 in a row to close out the season, maybe it's time for another run
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:05 pm
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:it's onto the Saints at home and while they're on a win streak, they're not that good - after beating the Seahawks in Seattle, we can win this
The Saints are pretty damn good, but I have no idea what to expect from the game this weekend. I think Keenum kind of embarrassed our secondary on Sunday, so hopefully those guys are ready to bounce back. HTTR.
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:55 pm
by SkinsJock
This Redskins team without most of their starting O-line beat the Seahawks in Seattle - with most of the starters back in the line-up, this Redskins team can beat the Saints this week
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:33 am
by riggofan
SkinsJock wrote:This Redskins team without most of their starting O-line beat the Seahawks in Seattle - with most of the starters back in the line-up, this Redskins team can beat the Saints this week
Yeah, I thought the o-line was much better last weekend all things considered. Sucks that they couldn't run the ball - especially on a couple key plays. But considering injuries and the quality of Minnesota's defense they played better than I was expecting.
I read the other day that the Saints are on track to field the most effective dual running attack in history. You might be missing the mark on what the biggest hurdle is for this next game. I include myself in that comment btw. I was assuming it was mainly going to be our secondary needing to deal with Brees. Haven't seen any Saints games this season, but I'm not looking forward to this:
The Saints’ Running Back Tandem Could Be The Best In History
Mark Ingram and Alvin Kamara are changing New Orleans’ offense while piling up obscene numbers.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... n-history/
Anyone know do we get Ioannidis back for this game?
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:08 pm
by SkinsJock
The Saints have done well this season without needing much from Drew Brees - this is a BIG concern for opposing teams - everyone knows that Brees can put up 300 yards if he has to, EASILY - the Saints, so far are at 7-2 mainly because of their run game and their total defense
the question is: is it harder to win a game in Seattle or in New Orleans? that answer is easy ...
Kirk Cousins and Jay Gruden against Drew Brees and Sean Payton ... that's easy too
hey! we were at 3-4 and we could have been 3-7 after this week - it's all good
Re: Redskins at the half ...
Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:02 pm
by SkinsJock
we were at 3-4 and almost certainly going to be at 3-5 but we are now at 4-5 - that's a big difference - this is a big hurdle but not as big as what we faced in Seattle without a lot of 'must have' players - so let's say we are at 4-6 - the next 6 are all winnable games = 10-6
hey! with this franchise anything is possible - time for the Redskins to step it up again
11/17 - just saw that nobody is picking the Redskins .... NOBODY - the only game where 100% are picking the Saints
that's the best indicator you can get that we're winning this game
Re: Redskins after 8 games ...
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:09 pm
by hitmandm
Gruden is 90% gone. Hopefully 100%.
Cousins isn't a winner. He is a YAC fake franchise QB that chokes when it matters. I mean....I know you guys are delusional homers about Captain Pick, but how many game ending picks, MNF humiliations do I have to point to before you see the truth. Were 4-6 with Captain Pick. Look at his record vs winning teams. Look at his big game performances. He is a joke.
Re: Redskins after 8 games ...
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:36 pm
by hanburgerheel
It's hard to be objective as a fan. I know we're really struggling with injuries. I just have no faith in Gruden at all. They gave away a game today that is inexcusable.
I've never liked Gruden. I think Cousins could possibly grow into a reliable QB. I think he has the skill set and he can score points. Gruden is never going to amount to anything. He's an 8-8 coach on his very best legs.
Re: Redskins after 8 games ...
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:37 am
by El Mexican
With a few cosmetic changes, this is basically the same approach to every Redskins season since 1999.
You never really know anything about the team, only that turmoil is right around the corner.
My family clearly knows this and questions my sanity
But hey, we're fans and are wiling to go through the ups and downs (although we've clearly had more "downs" since that year).
So just to recap: here we go again through the final stretch and we don't really know the status of the QB or the HC for next season.
We don't have a RB and the defense is squitzofrenic. Our TE are good but prone to injury. Special teams are a carrousel.
Yep, just a normal Redskins season.
Re: Redskins after 8 games ...
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:07 pm
by SkinsJock
IF the Redskins can get to 8 or 9 wins, they have had a good season - hopefully we can keep Cousins but I'm not sure a really good HC is going to want to come here until they can be sure of who they will be working for, and, as Bill Parcells pointed out "who is responsible for getting the right ingredients for the Head Chef" - I think Jay Gruden is still here ... unfortunately
adding the right players is good but the most important people is the head coach and his staff - Jay Gruden may be the best we can get
Hopefully, the Redskins win the next game - that's our Thanksgiving present
Re: Redskins after 8 games ...
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:08 pm
by riggofan
hanburgerheel wrote:I think Cousins could possibly grow into a reliable QB.
lol. Yeah maybe one day...
