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Any big surprises for you guys? Disappointments? Shockers?

Sudfeld stands out, maybe they'll get him back on the practice squad. But stands out to me for all of the happy horses*** over the offseason about grooming him to take over when Cousins moves on.

Glad to see Mack Brown make the team. I kind of thought they might hang on to Jones for some reason, but seems like those bridges are burned.

I was a little surprised that Quick beat out Harris at WR. Completely bummed that Fish Smithson didn't make it. Would have enjoyed hearing announcers try to say that name. Its like talking with a mouthful of caramel.

Lastly - I know I can't be the only one beating my head on my desk that we're going into yet another season as a supposed 3-4 defense and still don't have a freaking NT. I'm not saying they should have kept one of these guys, but damn... Maybe one of these guys ends up on PS. I'd like to see Lynden Trail there too.

OFFENSE

Quarterback (2): Kirk Cousins, Colt McCoy
Final Cuts (1): Nate Sudfeld

Running Backs (4): Rob Kelley, Samaje Perine, Chris Thompson, Mack Brown
Final Cuts (2): Matt Jones, Kenny Hilliard

Wide Receivers (5): Jamison Crowder, Josh Doctson, Terrelle Pryor Sr., Ryan Grant, Brian Quick
Final Cuts (7): Robert Davis, Maurice Harris, Matt Hazel, Levern Jacobs, Zach Pascal, James Quick, Jamari Staples

Tight Ends (4): Jordan Reed, Vernon Davis, Niles Paul, Jeremy Sprinkle
Final Cuts (2): Manasseh Garner, E.J. Bibbs, (Derek Carrier traded to RAMS for 7th round 2018 pick)

Offensive Linemen (8): Shawn Lauvao, Spencer Long, Morgan Moses, Ty Nsekhe, Brandon Scherff, Trent Williams, Chase Roullier, Tyler Catalina
Final Cuts (8): Lucas Crowley, Kyle Kalis, John Kling, Arie Kouandjio, Kendall Pace, Vinston Painter, Ronald Patrick, Isaiah Williams

DEFENSE

Defensive Linemen (6): Jonathan Allen, Ziggy Hood, Anthony Lanier II, Stacy McGee, Terrell McClain, Matt Ioannidis
Final Cuts (4): Brandon Banks, Joey Mbu, Ondre Pipkins, A.J. Francis

Linebackers (10): Ryan Kerrigan, Zach Brown, Mason Foster, Preston Smith, Will Compton, Martrell Spaight, Chris Carter, Josh Harvey-Clemons, Junior Galette, Ryan Anderson
Final Cuts (5): Nico Marley, Pete Robertson, Ron Thompson Jr., Lynden Trail, Zach Vigil

Cornerbacks (6): Josh Norman, Bashaud Breeland, Quinton Dunbar, Fabian Moreau, Joshua Holsey, Kendall Fuller
Final Cuts (2): Tevin Homer, Jeremiah McKinnon

Safeties (5): D.J. Swearinger, Su'a Cravens, Deshazor Everett, Montae Nicholson, Stefan McClure
Final Cuts (2): Will Blackmon, Fish Smithson

SPECIAL TEAMS

Kicker (1): Dustin Hopkins
Punter (1): Tress Way
Long Snapper (1): Nick Sundberg

Smart move btw by McVay to trade for Derek Carrier. That guy can play. A 7th rounder for him is a steal. And good move for us because we wouldn't have been able to keep him. win/win.

The NT situation is stupid. If it's that difficult to find one, or one that's good enough at the right money, then it's time to give up on the system

I'm not very excited.

Neither the team nor the fanbase are showing any energy at all.

Hooligan wrote:I'm not very excited.

Neither the team nor the fanbase are showing any energy at all.

I agree 100%, it's like what difference does it make?

I can't believe how some posters feel about the Skins now...REALLY?? if you're not excited or "what difference does it make?" -- my only comment to those of you feel this way....go the hell away and root for the Pats! They're good and apparently that's what you want. Why would you even "waste" your time to come here and post something like that? I've been rooting for the skins for more than 30 years, saw all the Super Bowls, celebrated in DC at the parades. I always have hope...and am excited for games to start ever week. Can't wait!

For those who aren't excited -- Goodbye...

fredp45 wrote:I can't believe how some posters feel about the Skins now...REALLY?? if you're not excited or "what difference does it make?" -- my only comment to those of you feel this way....go the hell away and root for the Pats! They're good and apparently that's what you want. Why would you even "waste" your time to come here and post something like that? I've been rooting for the skins for more than 30 years, saw all the Super Bowls, celebrated in DC at the parades. I always have hope...and am excited for games to start ever week. Can't wait!

For those who aren't excited -- Goodbye...

Fredp45 - Calm down, I have been a Redskin fan since the mid 50's when we had Norm Sneed. Yes some seasons are more exciting than others and when the Redskins don't have a fun team to watch I don't waste my time. I didn't say they had to win as I always enjoyed the games when they had Sonny and would score 30 pts but still not win. If you want to watch a boring team, good for you but it is not for me. This doesn't mean I am not a Redskin Fan and I have no intention of going anywhere. When you get my age you pick and choose how you spend your time more carefully.

Our new 3rd string qb Alex Togerson, I think is a downgrade http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-red ... tice-squad

Calm down?

SO, you're not excited about the team but you're coming to a message board a helluva lot to post about them? haha

I would not say, they're boring at all. Jay likes to throw the ball around the field and runs only occasionally.

I could see fans getting frustrated (and bored) when Danny and Vinny were in charge but not with this offense.

I can't wait for the (boring) season to begin!!

I'm looking forward to watching the Redskins this season - I'm not excited or enthused about the team like I used to be

R E A L I T Y

Well, the drama off-field certainly did not stop during these months.

Lots of back office power-struggles and contract disagreements we'll never really get to know.

Some other nuggets here and there, such as Cousins stating that the offense will maybe start to clic until October. But nothing really incendiary.

But this last week has been terrible, though: lost the starting NT and a starting safety. That will impact the start of the season.

I agree losing Taylor and Cravens is bad but clearly our depth is so much better. At least 5 of our cuts got picked up for another teams 53 or PS. That wasn't happening for a long time!!!

Are we even sure Cravens would have been a good Safety? Maybe Everett turns out to be better. A little surprised Blackmon didn't get resigned.

ferryrich wrote:The NT situation is stupid. If it's that difficult to find one, or one that's good enough at the right money, then it's time to give up on the system

Yes. Exactly right.

I wish it were simply a matter of the players playing and the coaches coaching ... it's more than that - this is a 7-9 win group if we're lucky

PLUS - Gruden is not a really good HC and Cousins is not a really good QB

welch wrote:

ferryrich wrote:The NT situation is stupid. If it's that difficult to find one, or one that's good enough at the right money, then it's time to give up on the system

Yes. Exactly right.

I think the truth is that it really IS hard to find a good NT. I'm with you guys on this. Quit trying to play a system where we don't have the right guys.

Weird and kind of disappointing story about Sudfeld btw. Skins made him an offer for the PS. Signing to Philly's PS instead of ours was kind of a b**** move IMO. He should be enough of a professional to understand why most teams including the Redskins carry two QBs on the active roster. Not to mention with our dicey QB situation and a couple years learning the system, you'd think he would have a chance to move up if he was any good. Screw that guy.

SkinsJock wrote:I'm looking forward to watching the Redskins this season - I'm not excited or enthused about the team like I used to be

I'm always excited. Always looking forward to watching the team. I don't want to see or hear from Dan and Bruce for three months. Unless its one of those weird videos of Snyder dancing to House of Pain in the owners' box because we're whipping the Packers.

riggofan wrote:

welch wrote:

ferryrich wrote:The NT situation is stupid. If it's that difficult to find one, or one that's good enough at the right money, then it's time to give up on the system

Yes. Exactly right.

I think the truth is that it really IS hard to find a good NT. I'm with you guys on this. Quit trying to play a system where we don't have the right guys.

Weird and kind of disappointing story about Sudfeld btw. Skins made him an offer for the PS. Signing to Philly's PS instead of ours was kind of a b**** move IMO. He should be enough of a professional to understand why most teams including the Redskins carry two QBs on the active roster. Not to mention with our dicey QB situation and a couple years learning the system, you'd think he would have a chance to move up if he was any good. Screw that guy.

God, I miss Gregg Williams.

Sudfeld... meh. We kept 4 average running backs instead of keeping Suds as a 3rd QB. That's how important he is to coaches and management. That being said, Sudfeld must not have liked playing here very much. He has a better shot at competing in our upcoming QB carousel than he does over in Philthy.

Can't blame Sudfeld for not wanting to be here - the mess that the Redskins are in is not getting fixed any time soon

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:I'm looking forward to watching the Redskins this season - I'm not excited or enthused about the team like I used to be

I'm always excited. Always looking forward to watching the team. I don't want to see or hear from Dan and Bruce for three months.

we may not see or hear from Dan or Bruce for months but we will be seeing the results of their stupidity for the next 16 games

SkinsJock wrote:

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:I'm looking forward to watching the Redskins this season - I'm not excited or enthused about the team like I used to be

I'm always excited. Always looking forward to watching the team. I don't want to see or hear from Dan and Bruce for three months.

we may not see or hear from Dan or Bruce for months but we will be seeing the results of their stupidity for the next 16 games

Life of a Skins fan. What's new?

Glad to see Anthony Lanier II made the team, from what I could see of him he was big, fast and disruptive.

I totally missed that Kouandjio didn't make the team. That's a disappointment. Fourth round McCloughan pick in 2015.

I agree that McCloughan made some mistakes - everyone does - most people learn a lot from their mistakes

Snyder makes mistakes and does not learn anything from them - this is the reason we're in this mess

Does the Mc have ANY draft picks playing football on this team??? Sob

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Does the Mc have ANY draft picks playing football on this team??? Sob

Not many, Dan Snyder made them all suck. He's like talent kryptonite. You can see the strength slowly draining out of Scherff as we speak...