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HEROHAMO wrote:1.Qb Kirk Cousins. Not going to spend too much time on the QB situation there are other threads on the subject. It's obviously the top priority according to most.
My thoughts are simple. Offer a fair market offer but not the highest offer. Full intentions on placing the non exclusive franchise tag. If Kirk takes our offer great if not we get compensation.
In the event Kirk signs elsewhere. We are compensated and we go after best available vet QB while we shore up the defense and running game. Tony Romo or Jay Cutler. Latter options would be Kappernick or Garropolo. No way do I draft a qb early. Maybe rounds 4-7.

2. Defense
Opponents averaged 119 yards rushing and 258 yards passing. While giving up 23 points per game. 23rd and 24th in the league. The few positives are the defense was 10th in sacks with 38. Panthers led with 48. The Giants had 35. So our defense can rush the qb.
Holes to fill NT,Ilb,Ilb and fs.
There's no way we could just expect a drastic improvement on defense right away through the draft alone. A combination of veteran free agents 1 or 2 and draft picks could do the trick.
We run a 3-4 defense the most important position is NT. Our draft position is no.17. Great defensive tackles are more rare then even great Qbs. You can count them on one hand. So unless a top prospect drops to us at no.17 in the draft I say we sign a veteran DT. Dontari Poe and Kawaan Short are both free agents. If we are to sign one free agent let it be one of them. It's also very difficult to find in the draft.
Linebackers the inside are terrible. The worst in the league. Should of resigned Keenan Robinson last year. He's now playing well on the Giants for cheap as well. Reminds me of how we let Antonio Pierce and Lavar go to the Giants. Sorry Scott I love you but you dropped the ball on that one.
Finding good linebackers in the draft isn't hard so I say draft one or two. Zach Cunningham 6-4 220 lbs, Lb, Vanderbilt runs a 4.7 is the only prospect I would consider picking at no. 17.

Free saftey....ah one of my favorite positions and one of need and importance. Also for sentimental reasons I place high value on the saftey position. Lucky for us this year's draft has not 1 or 2 but 3 of the best safety prospects in years.

I'M SERIOUS FOLKS. THE NEXT SEAN TAYLOR IS COMING IN THIS DRAFT. WE MUST DRAFT SAFETY.(Please Scott)

1.Malik Hooker 6-2 210lbs safety Ohio state. Runs a 4.4
2.Jabril Peppers 6-1 210 lbs hybrid safety /lb Michigan runs a 4.4.
3. Jamal Adams 6-1 210 lbs saftey LSU runs a 4.5.
I've never seen a draft class with safties this good.
At pick no.17 we must draft one of these safties. My pick would be Jabril Peppers then Hooker. It's likely one of them would be available at no.17. Hooker is projected top 10.

Priority no.3
Fix the running game.
Our offensive line has made huge strides especially in pass protection but our run blocking is still lacking. We need an all around guard/center. I think we could find one in the 2nd round. Good guards are expensive too so I think the draft is the option.
Running backs, Matt Jones is a fumbler. Rob Kelly gives his all but is just a solid backup imho.
I'm torn we only have one pick in the 1st rnd at no.17. This year's draft is excellent at Rb as well.
1.Leonard Fournette 6-1 230lbs,Rb LSU. Runs a 4.5
2. Christian Mccaffrey 6-1 200lbs,Rb Stanford. Runs a 4.4
3. Dalvin Cook 5-11 200lbs ,FSU, runs a 4.4.
3 of the best prospects in years.

So 3 saftey and 3 running back prospects. That's 6 prospects
who could be there at pick no.17. My guess would be either Jabril Peppers or Christian Mccaffrey would be there at no.17.
I'm going to throw out one more name
1.O.J. Howard 6-6 250lbs, tight end,Alabama runs a 4.6. The next Gronk. If Scott is truly best player available I think Howard might be at no.17.


So to summarize here's what I would do.
1. Tag Kirk non exclusive
2. Re sign Baker and Garcon. Desean will be too expensive.
3. I think we have a shot at signing Dontari Poe. Both Eric Berry and Dontari Poe are free agents. I doubt Berry even hits the market. Kawaan Short will be the top paid free agent. Too expensive.
4. Draft Jabril Peppers or Christian Mccaffrey at no.17.
Draft best available guard in 2nd. 3rd round best available inside linebacker.4-7 best available Lbs and defensive tackles.

For those arguing to install a 4-3 -- and I get this way too often -- please watch how the Redskins run their defense. At least 70 percent of the time, they’re in a 4-3 look, with two defensive tackles and the two outside linebackers as ends. It doesn’t work for them. Why? Because someone up front routinely gets washed from their gap, getting caught too far inside by tackles or a linebacker filling the wrong hole. That happened several times Monday night, with easy cutback lanes available. It happened to all the tackles, whether Chris Baker or Ricky Jean Francois. That’s not to pick on anyone in particular because it's not just one guy -- and those two have made some big plays -- but just to point out that saying something along the lines of “we have the personnel for a 4-3!” is not accurate. A true 4-3 would be run differently; now, it’s their nickel package. But if they ever switched back, they’d still need to upgrade the defensive roster.

PAPDOG67 wrote:Nice post. I definitely think Safety is the way to go in the first round. If Hooker is there, he is the guy to grab. He has range for days and is the center fielder we need on the back end. I know Ohio State got their doors blown off, but just check the highlight of him picking off Deshaun Watson last week. He came from dead center field and made the pick in the back corner of the end zone. The scary thing is I think he's only been playing safety for like a year or two. If not safety, then DL is a must. We need some studs up there.

EA7649 wrote:After the first few weeks in March we will know how the roster looks and what should to be done. The roster now a safety would be nice. But with how Scot does business I'd hope it's the best safety, d lineman or linebacker available. Factoring in the depth in the draft too.

Last draft we took a wr with the logical thinking the player they wanted was taken and Doctson was the best available player. It also didn't hurt knowing 2 of our top wr were going to be FA. If their 1st round defensive player is taken and there isn't as much depth in that position I wouldn't think it would be a rb.

You never know things change. Last year at this time a cb would have been in interest. Once Norman was signed taking a cb early was much less of a thought.

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:If we're lucky, Jamal Adams (S-LSU) falls into our laps at 17. If not, I hope we trade down. Could that nab us a 2nd & 3rd?

There are numerous DT possibilities in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Caleb Brantley (DT -- Florida) is 6-2/297 and has a quick first step. I'd love to nab him in the 2nd.

We also need an ILB. For that, I'd aim for Raekwon McMillan (LB- OSU) Could be had in the 2nd.

Montravious Adams (DT-Auburn) would be a nice add to our D-Line in the 3rd.

We also should look at an addition to the O-Line, specifically a Left Guard. Aim for that in the 3rd or 4th round.

Also someone to watch for in the 3rd or 4th is Eddie Jackson (S-Alabama). He broke his leg during the season and will fall in the draft because of that. He's a good safety, though.

Lots of things will change after the combine. Keep a list of players now, because once they hit the combine in shorts many people will forget who the football players are.

PAPDOG67 wrote:There are only 3 RBs I would consider at 17 and two f them are likely to be gone. If Cook is there I would seriously consider taking him. I think he's the best overall RB in the class. Can do it all. He will most likely be gone tho. Fournette would be nice to, but I think he's a little more 1 dimensional. Likely not there either at 17. The one guy who very well may be there at 17 who I would at least kick the tires on is D'onta Foreman from Texas (sp?). Big bruising back who runs like his hair is on fire. That might be a tad early for him tho.

SkinsJock wrote:look at where we are compared to where we were at the beginning of 2015 - GREAT JOB by the FO

SkinsJock wrote:the biggest difference is that before 2015, we had no plan

SkinsJock wrote:If we'd had people that knew what they were doing we never would have had RG3

SkinsJock wrote:the O line is better because we have people in charge that know what they're doing

SkinsJock wrote: and the defense was bad because we could not find a way financially to add the players we needed

SkinsJock wrote:it's critical that this FO not spend too much money on the Cousins deal - even though the salary cap keeps going up the franchise is better off with more good quality players than just a few

markshark84 wrote:We haven't drafted a "star" DEF player

Deadskins wrote:

markshark84 wrote:We haven't drafted a "star" DEF player

You could make an argument for Kerrigan, but he may not fit your definition of "star."

Pierre Garcon - WR - Redskins

Brian McNally of 106.7 The Fan reports the Redskins have yet to open contract talks with impending free agent Pierre Garcon.

Washington has also not spoken with DeSean Jackson about a new deal since the end of the season, increasing the likelihood both receivers bolt in free agency. Still, negotiations usually do not kick into high gear until the Combine, so the Redskins have time to work out a deal with either Garcon or Jackson if they so choose. It still seems unlikely Washington lets both veterans walk, especially considering 2016 first-round pick Josh Doctson's health remains in question.

Source: CBS DC Feb 7 - 10:18 AM

DeSean Jackson - WR - Redskins

Impending free agent DeSean Jackson said he plans to "test the market."

"This is the first time in my career I'll hit the free-agent market," Jackson said, "so I'm definitely intrigued about seeing what's going to happen and test the market and see what's going on." Jackson made those comments in December, and the Redskins reportedly have not discussed a new deal with him since the end of the season, suggesting he still plans to hit free agency. If Washington wants Jackson back, they will have to beat out plenty of competition including perhaps the Rams and the Eagles, who drafted Jackson in 2008.

Source: ESPN Feb 7 - 10:29 AM

Chris Baker - DL - Redskins

J.P. Finlay of CSN Mid-Atlantic reports the Redskins have yet to open contract negotiations with impending free agent DE Chris Baker.

The same is true of DeSean Jackson, Pierre Garcon, and Vernon Davis, suggesting the Redskins are waiting until the coaching staff is finalized before making any personnel decisions. Baker has 10.5 sacks the last two seasons and is clearly the best defensive lineman on the roster, but reports suggest Washington is lukewarm on bringing him back. If they do not want him, Baker should have plenty of takers on the open market.

Source: CSN Mid-Atlantic Feb 7 - 12:56 PM

markshark84 wrote:I literally have no idea why I bother. I feel like it I correct you enough times, somehow you'll get it. Probably not.

SkinsJock wrote:the biggest difference is that before 2015, we had no plan

Everyone has a plan. Plans are meaningless unless you are able to execute. Have we executed? I am not totally sure. We are a better team than we were in 2014, but I don't think it is because we have injected more talent....