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..we put Trent at G when he returns?

I hear ya. I say lets just keep it the same for now and give Nsekhe some packages as a te like they did with Compton.

Wouldnt be mad at your idea at all though.

interesting.

... we didn't have an inaccurate noodle arm behind center?

mastdark81 wrote:I hear ya. I say lets just keep it the same for now and give Nsekhe some packages as a te like they did with Compton.

Wouldnt be mad at your idea at all though.

interesting.

Yea it is interesting...wonder how Trent would take it? Nsekhe has been impressive.
ey is saying it as well??

DEHog wrote:..we put Trent at G when he returns?

No. Trent is the best left tackle in the league. He's also already stated he hates playing guard. Put Nsekhe at Left Guard.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

DEHog wrote:..we put Trent at G when he returns?

No. Trent is the best left tackle in the league. He's also already stated he hates playing guard. Put Nsekhe at Left Guard.

Yea that's probaly the way it will go (Trent back to T, not Nsekhe at G), but I'd add "what Trent wants" has lost a bit of it's credibility...

DEHog wrote:Yea that's probaly the way it will go (Trent back to T, not Nsekhe at G), but I'd add "what Trent wants" has lost a bit of it's credibility...

It's always about what makes the team the best it can be, and if we're being honest, while Nsekhe has been good, he's not all world like Trent Williams is.

If he was he wouldn't be a backup.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

DEHog wrote:Yea that's probaly the way it will go (Trent back to T, not Nsekhe at G), but I'd add "what Trent wants" has lost a bit of it's credibility...

It's always about what makes the team the best it can be, and if we're being honest, while Nsekhe has been good, he's not all world like Trent Williams is.

If he was he wouldn't be a backup.

Right and if Tony Romo wouldn't have gotten hurt Dak would be the starting QB because they knew he was better than Tony or for that matter Sanchez??
The question isn't if we are better with Nsekhe at LT than we are with Trent..It's about if we are better with them both on the field...

DEHog wrote:

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

DEHog wrote:Yea that's probaly the way it will go (Trent back to T, not Nsekhe at G), but I'd add "what Trent wants" has lost a bit of it's credibility...

It's always about what makes the team the best it can be, and if we're being honest, while Nsekhe has been good, he's not all world like Trent Williams is.

If he was he wouldn't be a backup.

Right and if Tony Romo wouldn't have gotten hurt Dak would be the starting QB because they knew he was better than Tony or for that matter Sanchez??
The question isn't if we are better with Nsekhe at LT than we are with Trent..It's about if we are better with them both on the field...

Without having seen Nsekhe play a single snap at guard I'd venture he's better than Lauvao. Makes me think Kouandjio will never develop since I'd think he'd be playing if he was anywhere close to starter material.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

DEHog wrote:..we put Trent at G when he returns?

No. Trent is the best left tackle in the league. He's also already stated he hates playing guard. Put Nsekhe at Left Guard.

I don't know how good Nsekhe is at guard. But he's super valuable as a backup tackle who can step in when a player needs a break. Remember that Moses is nursing some injuries, so it wouldn't surprise me if you saw when Trent returns if Moses starts taking some time off to rest that ankle and Nsekhe plays RT more.

I wouldn't go this far yet... but I would say we should use him more. Trent plays banged up a lot, and nsekhe has proven that doesn't need to happen. I'll take a 100% Trent over nsekhe, but a 90% Trent I think can rest a game and let nsekhe take over.

Also with Moses, he's pretty banged up right now. If he's still nursing that ankle or any other injury, I'd say it's best to sit him, let him rest, and put nsekhe in there.

Guard and tackle are very different, I wouldn't shift around things and mess with the cohesiveness of the unit.

DarthMonk wrote:... we didn't have an inaccurate noodle arm behind center?

I thought that was the most amazing thing last night. I kept asking myself, how is that noodle arm able to throw like that in 20 mph winds? Bizarre.

Prowl33 wrote:Also with Moses, he's pretty banged up right now. If he's still nursing that ankle or any other injury, I'd say it's best to sit him, let him rest, and put nsekhe in there.

Its a bummer that Trent is out at the same time Moses is struggling with the ankle. Bad timing. Credit to Moses for manning up and battling through it, but that was definitely a weak spot on the line last night.

I wonder if we would see Scherff back at RT with Kouandjio inside for a game if Moses can't go?

“If you’re trying to make it to the playoffs, to hell with feelings,” Brian Mitchell said during CSN’s postgame show. “You want the best people out there and you’re playing to win. So playing to win means Lauvao sits down where he needs to be until he gets a little heavier in the butt and stops getting driven back into the quarterback all the time.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc- ... 0b6f9c2128

we would be better on offense if we stopped calling offensive plays that the players cannot execute and stopped calling plays on offense that the defense knows we are going to run

we are going to beat the eagles and the giants so we just need 1 other to get 9 wins which is 1 win better than 'expected' but still is 3 or possibly 4 wins less than we could have had with better decision making by our coaches

Lauvao had such a bad game that I think you have to consider it if you're the coach. Especially considering how well the Nsekhe-Williams combo worked the one time we tried it.

And whether or not he actually did anything wrong, Williams has forfeited any ability to complain. He needs to do what's best for the team, and that means listening to the coaches.

Irn-Bru wrote:Lauvao had such a bad game that I think you have to consider it if you're the coach. Especially considering how well the Nsekhe-Williams combo worked the one time we tried it.

And whether or not he actually did anything wrong, Williams has forfeited any ability to complain. He needs to do what's best for the team, and that means listening to the coaches.

This...that was my argument when it was announced!

Irn-Bru wrote:Lauvao had such a bad game that I think you have to consider it if you're the coach. Especially considering how well the Nsekhe-Williams combo worked the one time we tried it.

And whether or not he actually did anything wrong, Williams has forfeited any ability to complain. He needs to do what's best for the team, and that means listening to the coaches.

Lauvao sucks camel testicles but I still think it will be a cold day in hell before they take the best left tackle in football and move him inside to guard.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:Lauvao had such a bad game that I think you have to consider it if you're the coach. Especially considering how well the Nsekhe-Williams combo worked when we tried it. Whether or not he actually did anything wrong, Williams has forfeited any ability to complain. He needs to do what's best for the team & that means listening to the coaches.

Lauvao sucks ... it will be a cold day in hell before they take the best left tackle in football and move him inside to guard.

+1

Wouldn't it be better to try Nsekhe at G and keep one of the best blind side LT in the game, at his natural position?

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Wouldn't it be better to try Nsekhe at G and keep one of the best blind side LT in the game, at his natural position?

Well that’s the question…what would make the line its best? The coaches know best, all we know (and have seen) is that Nsekhe can play LT and Trent can play G. Why didn’t Nsekhe play G earlier in the season instead of Trent? All I know is our run game needs help....moving Trent inside might be the answer...

DEHog wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Wouldn't it be better to try Nsekhe at G and keep one of the best blind side LT in the game, at his natural position?

Well that’s the question … what would make the line its best? The coaches know best, all we know (and have seen) is that Nsekhe can play LT and Trent can play G. Why didn’t Nsekhe play G earlier in the season instead of Trent? All I know is our run game needs help .... moving Trent inside might be the answer

haven't you heard from the guys that know everything ... we don't have a problem running the ball or with the offense - we need to do a much better job on defense and especially solving the issue with not being able to stop the other team on 3rd down or 4th down which is even worse, if you look at the stats ... which is all some here are interested in to justify their thought process

Gruden is not moving Williams to G at this time - that would be as stupid as having Kelley as QB, with Cousins in the slot, or calling a fade route on 1st and goal at the 1 ...



if we see a fade route again this season, it's another bad decision on offense - hopefully Cousins will not let that happen

Did someone fart in here?

riggofan wrote:Did someone fart in here?

Hearing Arie Kouandjio will be starting Sunday, so I guess we have our answer on the Williams / Nsekhe question.

DEHog wrote:..we put Trent at G when he returns?

Jay apparently felt that smelled so bad he's decided to stick with Williams at LT and go with Kouandijo at LG