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We drafted Sean Taylor! Yes! This is awesome! I am so friggin' happy! He is gonna be a playmaker on the defensive side for us!

Sorry SkinsFan55. I know you wanted us to get your boy Kellen Winslow, Jr. but we'll probably see him week 4 against the Browns.

this is fantastic...i couldn't be happier...but i think kellen's goin to the lions

I wanted Kellen Winslow so badly, he would have had a much larger impact on the team than Sean Taylor will... Taylor is good, but he's no Winslow. Kellen Winslow WILL be the best TE of all time... Taylor may not even be the best in his own division...

I was so convinced and disappointed that we were gonna take Kellen Winslow that I literally jumped outta my bed and and screamed with joy when I heard the words "Sean Taylor" come out of Tagliabue's mouth. HELL YEAH SEAN TAYLOR A SKIN!

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Why is everyone happy about this?!?!

It just boggles my mind, people should be jumping off buildings at the mention if this kind of terrible news.

There is talk that there may be a trade b/t the Lions and Browns. More to come.

Yup, Winslow's a Brown. Doesn't seem as mad as Eli was.

Skinsfan55 wrote:Why is everyone happy about this?!?!

It just boggles my mind, people should be jumping off buildings at the mention if this kind of terrible news.

Come on man.... Gibbs knows what he's doing.... Taylor's a Redskin now.... you can mail Winslow his jock strap that you've been holding onto this past month, back to him when he gets to Cleveland

Skinsfan55 wrote:Why is everyone happy about this?!?!

It just boggles my mind, people should be jumping off buildings at the mention if this kind of terrible news.

You crack me up, man. You'll change your tune when he knocks the taste out of Shockey's mouth!!

Joe Gibbs WANTED Kellen Winslow Jr.

Unfortunately he relied on Gregg Williams' imput and made the biggest mistake of the draft. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was a coin flip decision.

Skinsfan55 wrote:Joe Gibbs WANTED Kellen Winslow Jr.

Unfortunately he relied on Gregg Williams' imput and made the biggest mistake of the draft. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was a coin flip decision.

THE BIGGEST MISTAKE???!!! I'm sorry but you are definitely wrong on that. Winslow will be good but K2 wouldn't have been used as much as you think. Taylor will bring great playmaking ablilties. It seems you've forgotten that defensive is our greatest need. I respect you're desire to draft K2 but saying drafting Taylor is a mistake is the worst thing you could say.

Also, Gibbs wanted both guys. Not just K2.

DG28 wrote:I was so convinced and disappointed that we were gonna take Kellen Winslow that I literally jumped outta my bed and and screamed with joy when I heard the words "Sean Taylor" come out of Tagliabue's mouth. HELL YEAH SEAN TAYLOR A SKIN!

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I hear you. My friend and I both were convinced it was Kellen Winslow . When they said Sean Taylor I stood up and yelled HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!. This is great.

Skinsfan55 wrote:Joe Gibbs WANTED Kellen Winslow Jr.

Unfortunately he relied on Gregg Williams' imput and made the biggest mistake of the draft. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was a coin flip decision.

How do you know? Are you buddy buddy with Joe? Nope don't think so...... You can't tell me Joe just sat back and let Williams make that pick..... quit crying..... had they picked Winslow..... I don't think anyone would be crying over Taylor as bad as you are over him not being here..... Except that he's a Brown and Taylor's a Redskin now.... move on or are you one of those band-wagon guys?

I'm with sf55 on this one

Winslow would have been a better pick

Taylor is NOT the playmaker Winslow is...

Taylor will only be good for Taylor. He will not make anyone else a better player on D... he can't he plays saftey.

Kellen Winslow would have made match up problems, he would have left defenses quessing... Rod Gardner would instantly be propelled into superstar status, the holes would open for Portis and Patrick Ramsey would have been made into a top 5 passer for YEARS to come... we messed this pick up bad IMO

Didn't Sean Taylor have more touchdowns than Winslow last year?

BTP,

I wanted what's best for Washington, and that just didn't happen here. It boggles my mind that people are actually excited about this monumentally stupid pick.

How can you call me a bandwagoner? That doesn't even begin to make sense... In fact, it makes about as much sense as drafting Sean Taylor over Kellen Winslow.

Skinsfan55 wrote:Taylor is NOT the playmaker Winslow is...

Taylor will only be good for Taylor. He will not make anyone else a better player on D... he can't he plays saftey.

Kellen Winslow would have made match up problems, he would have left defenses quessing... Rod Gardner would instantly be propelled into superstar status, the holes would open for Portis and Patrick Ramsey would have been made into a top 5 passer for YEARS to come... we messed this pick up bad IMO

How would K2 have made more of an impact then Taylor if tight end isn't a highly utilized position on the offense?

If I'm not mistaken, I think I read somewhere that Kellen Winslow had only one touchdown last year. Sean Taylor had three from running back interceptions.

Jake wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:Taylor is NOT the playmaker Winslow is...

Taylor will only be good for Taylor. He will not make anyone else a better player on D... he can't he plays saftey.

Kellen Winslow would have made match up problems, he would have left defenses quessing... Rod Gardner would instantly be propelled into superstar status, the holes would open for Portis and Patrick Ramsey would have been made into a top 5 passer for YEARS to come... we messed this pick up bad IMO

How would K2 have made more of an impact then Taylor if tight end isn't a highly utilized position on the offense?

I guess you'll never be able to see what I mean Jake, because we messed up the draft. If we had a 2nd round pick this would be easier to take, but we don't and it's not. IMO we NEED to get a young talented TE soon. Practicing against Sean Taylor could make a young TE better, but not as good as Iffy or Bowen would have been made by practicing vs. Winslow

didn't sean taylor practice against winslow for the past three years? wouldn't that make him SOOOOO much better already? or did i miss something?

Skinsfan55 wrote:BTP,

I wanted what's best for Washington, and that just didn't happen here. It boggles my mind that people are actually excited about this monumentally stupid pick.

How can you call me a bandwagoner? That doesn't even begin to make sense... In fact, it makes about as much sense as drafting Sean Taylor over Kellen Winslow.

You have got to be the most stubborn guy around..... You act like Kellen Winslow is Gods gift to the NFL and Taylor is a door mat.... get real.... Taylor and Winslow were both top rated players by EXPERTS! I don't remember you saying any thing about yourself working for a living studying college players? Gibbs knows what he's doing.....If they drafted Winslow... then i would have felt Joe knows what he's doing and he thinks that Winslow would have been the best for our team.... obviously his feelings weren't strong enough for drafting Winslow or he would have done it........

Believe in Joe, Taylor and the Redskins or feel free to go out and buy your shiney new Cleveland Browns, Kellen Winslow Jersey......

How would K2 have made more of an impact then Taylor if tight end isn't a highly utilized position on the offense?

I beg to differ. TE is a highly utilized position when a team has a good caliber player at that position. Which is my point, good tighends are rare and winslow was rare

BringThePain! wrote:

Skinsfan55 wrote:BTP,

I wanted what's best for Washington, and that just didn't happen here. It boggles my mind that people are actually excited about this monumentally stupid pick.

How can you call me a bandwagoner? That doesn't even begin to make sense... In fact, it makes about as much sense as drafting Sean Taylor over Kellen Winslow.

You have got to be the most stubborn guy around..... You act like Kellen Winslow is Gods gift to the NFL and Taylor is a door mat.... get real.... Taylor and Winslow were both top rated players by EXPERTS! I don't remember you saying any thing about yourself working for a living studying college players? Gibbs knows what he's doing.....If they drafted Winslow... then i would have felt Joe knows what he's doing and he thinks that Winslow would have been the best for our team.... obviously his feelings weren't strong enough for drafting Winslow or he would have done it........

Believe in Joe, Taylor and the Redskins or feel free to go out and buy your shiney new Cleveland Browns, Kellen Winslow Jersey......

SF55 You have your head up your a$$ if you think this is a stupid pick. We have overhauled skill positions on offense and we really need an impact player on D. If we had picked KW2 I'd be okay with it, for what it would bring the team. We picked Taylor and that is going to help big time. Open your eyes man.

attack the post, not the poster

Kellen Winslow simply would have helped us more, disagree if you want, but keep personal insults out of it