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The 83 superbowl
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:41 pm
by John Manfreda
I was too young to remember this one but I remember the last two. I have a question this wasn't a strike season with the team that had Riggins and Theisman. Becuase I made a bet with someone that Gibbs won two superbowls without a strike season and he said his last one was the only non strike season. Could you also send me proff so I can collect or ignore and not tell him.
Re: The 83 superbowl
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:58 pm
by RedskinsFanInTX
John Manfreda wrote:I was too young to remember this one but I remember the last two. I have a question this wasn't a strike season with the team that had Riggins and Theisman. Becuase I made a bet with someone that Gibbs won two superbowls without a strike season and he said his last one was the only non strike season. Could you also send me proff so I can collect or ignore and not tell him.
Sorry, But not only was there a strike, the season was shortened.
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:25 pm
by whomp-em
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 12:24 am
by welch
Sorry, a strike season. The first. Gibbs showed his quality: team lead leagueat the start if the strike, take off a few weeks, and came back to lead league.
As abn oddity, and to make the playoffs toughter, the NFL mixed uo the top teams from each NFC and ASFC...no divisions...and played a four game series. At 9-1, the Redskins had home-field advantage in all three lead-up games: Atlanta, Minneapolis, Dallas, I think. Art MOnk, our deep threat (take that, Mr Z) broke a toe in the last regular season game, giving the Redskins kittle Charlie Brown, and the "smurfs". like Alvin Garrett, as wide recxeivers. Defenses bunched in to stop Riggins. He gained about 160 yeards every game, in chuncks of 5 - 7 years each.
Minute after minute, chunk after chunk, and the Hogs moved the pile five yeards. Long pass?ho need a log pass?
We were also nervous about the Immortal Cowboys. The NY tImes had compared player-by-player, and said our dear Hogs were nothing but a collection of fath boys. We worried: who can argue with the NY Times??? Yet, on the first play, the hogs wedged out 5 or 6 yards for Riggins, and I coukd see that the Skins would not be stopped.
SB17 had some moments, but the playoffs were oh, so satisfying.
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:48 am
by Redskins1974
Nice breakdown Welch! - That's a great summary and it brings back some great memories. You should have seen the DC area back then. I remember people had life sized cowboy dolls hanging from trees in their front yard, signs cheering for our team on their houses, etc etc, all throughout the playoffs and after the super bowl win. Good times we have to bring back!
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:05 am
by genuswine hoglover
Actually it was Detroit, Minnesota and Dallas.
I would also like to throw in the memory of the fun bunch during those games and against Miami in the SB!
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:51 am
by RedskinsFreak
Understatement of the year!
welch wrote:SB17 had some moments, but the playoffs were oh, so satisfying.
SOME moments??? Only the single greatest moment in franchise history!
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:51 pm
by SonnyRules
The '83 team was arguably the best in franchise history. They just obliterated everyone (although the '91 team did, too). I think they just got complacent and believed they couldn't be beaten. You could see that creeping in during the NFC Championship against the niners that year, a game they totally dominated until midway through the fourth, when they almost let the niners come back and win.
The Raiders were a great team that year, but I think the Redskins just got too cocky for SB18. They've said as much themselves over the years. Gibbs was actually outcoached that day, too, for one of the few times.
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:08 pm
by genuswine hoglover
They beat the Raiders earlier in the year. Remember Joe Washington went beserk and we scored, like 17 points in the final 7 minutes.
The NFC championship game really did start to expose some cracks. Give some credit to Montana though (and an extremely fortuitous interfence call that allowed Mosley to kick the game winner.
I think that game is where the Pearl Harbor squad was coined, since Montana just bombed them to death.
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 5:59 pm
by welch
The SB 18 NFC championship game...yes, I remember that interference call. Art Monk, in the clear, down the right side. SF db grabbed him, either by the shirt or the top of his pads, held him back, and the pass fell a few yards ahead.
The issue was whether the ball was catchable. One announcer claimed that it couldn't be interfence because it was overthrown. I always have thought that Monk would have caught it if he hadn't been slowed and held back. Certainly, he'd have gotten both hands on the ball, which means he might have caught it.
(And who, therefore, was the deep threat? Who, Mr Z, made things happen downfield?)
But SB 18...what a sad loss. I remember reading that some players had gotten overconfident, and had not concentrated during the prep-weeks. It might be interesting to look at roster changes after that season, because they might indicate which players Gibbs thought had gone to a party instead of gone to the game. When did they drop Charlie Brown? Or Joe Washington?
Did Gibbs ever run the "rocket screen" again?
<note, slightly more careful typing today!!>
Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:40 pm
by njskinsfan
I thought I was going to have a Hogaboom nightmare again but I keep my pleasant thoughts on Dexter breaking through the Cowgirl line on an inside stunt as Danny White tries to get rid of the ball as big Dex plows him under the turf of RFK stadium. He then stands up and whispers to the trainer " I'm not in Kansas anymore"????