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Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trademark
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 1:15 pm
by Burgundy&GoldForever
Law360, New York (December 22, 2015, 11:51 AM ET) -- The Federal Circuit ruled Tuesday that the federal government’s ban on “disparaging” trademark registrations is a violation of the First Amendment, striking down the provision that was used to revoke the Washington Redskins' trademark registrations.
The ruling, which came in a separate case filed by members of a band called The Slants who were refused a registration on their name on the grounds that it was offensive to Asian-Americans, declared the Lanham Act’s Section 2a to be an unconstitutional discrimination based on unpopular speech.
“Many of the marks rejected as disparaging convey hurtful speech that harms members of oft-stigmatized communities,” the appeals court wrote. “But the First Amendment protects even hurtful speech.”
“The government cannot refuse to register disparaging marks because it disapproves of the expressive messages conveyed by the marks,” the court wrote.
Section 2a is the same provision cited by the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board in June 2014 when it revoked the Washington football team's trademark registrations. That ruling was upheld by a federal judge this summer, and is currently on appeal to the Fourth Circuit.
The band is represented by Ronald D. Coleman of Archer & Greiner PC.
The USPTO is represented in-house by Nathan K. Kelley, Christina Hieber, Thomas W. Krause, Molly R. Silfen and Thomas L. Casagrande as well as by Mark R. Freeman, Joshua Marc Salzman, and Daniel Tenny of the U.S. Department of Justice.
The case is In re: Simon Shiao Tam, case number 14-1203, at the U.S. Court of Appeal for the Federal Circuit.
You can be sure this case is going onward and upward. As a matter of Constitutional law, SCOTUS will not only have the opportunity for the final word but they will want the final word. Stay tuned.
Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:02 pm
by riggofan
Its kind of a mixed ruling. Good that they've protected their trademark. But not especially great that the court is saying they're protecting free speech, even hurtful and disparaging remarks. lol.
The best news is that we're playing a game with playoff implications this Saturday, so nobody has time to waste on this.

Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:59 pm
by SkinsJock
riggofan wrote:The best news is that we're playing a game with playoff implications this Saturday, so nobody has time to waste on this.

well, almost

Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:54 pm
by Irn-Bru
riggofan wrote:Its kind of a mixed ruling. Good that they've protected their trademark. But not especially great that the court is saying they're protecting free speech, even hurtful and disparaging remarks. lol.
The best news is that we're playing a game with playoff implications this Saturday, so nobody has time to waste on this.

Plus, the trademark hasn't been in effect for some time now, and it's not making a difference.
I said at the time that the ruling was being way overblown. The people looking for the Skins to change their name were just believing what they wanted to believe, that this would somehow be the magic crowbar to wrench Snyder into changing the name. Not only has it not made a dent, but there's a decent chance that the trademark cancellation was illegal anyway.
Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:02 pm
by SkinsJock
Like the man said - much ado about nothing, always was ... we have much bigger 'issues' to discuss ...
Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:54 am
by SkinsJock
slightly off topic ...
a couple of stupid Pommie parliament members (that may be an oxymoron) want the NFL to not let the Redskins play in London
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... get-londonParliament members to NFL: Change Redskins name or forget LondonBy John Breech | CBSSports.com
February 24, 2016 10:17 pm ET
With the Washington Redskins set to play a game in London in 2016, the national controversy involving the team's name is now turning into an international controversy.
Five days before the Super Bowl, the NFL received a letter from two members of British Parliament in regards to the Redskins name.
In the Feb. 2 letter, which was obtained by ESPN, parliament members Ruth Smeeth and Ian Austin asked the league to have Washington change its name or "at the minimum, send a different team to our country to represent the sport, one that does not promote a racial slur."
The Redskins are scheduled to play the Bengals on Oct. 30 at Wembley Stadium.
The day after the NFL announced that the Redskins would be playing in England, the Oneida Indian Nation blasted the NFL for creating an international incident by sending the Redskins to London.
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has held the same stance on the Redskins name for the past few years. Goodell has reiterated that any name change is ultimately up to owner Daniel Snyder.
League spokesman Brian McCarthy echoed that sentiment in a statement to ESPN.
"A team's name is a club decision," McCarthy said. "We recognize there are strong views on both sides of this."
In the letter from the parliament members, Smeeth and Austin said that the Redskins name goes "directly" against the values of British citizens.
"We were shocked to learn the derivation of the term 'R*dskin,' pertaining as it does to the historic abuse of native Americans," the letter said. "The exportation of this racial slur to the UK this autumn, when the Washington team is due to play, directly contravenes the values that many in Britain have worked so hard to instill."
Smeeth also explained that the game could be an issue for the BBC, the publicly funded company that's scheduled to broadcast the game.
"Given it's taxpayer-funded, if we believe it's a racial slur, then that means problems for the BBC in terms of coverage of the event," Smeeth told ESPN. "There is going to come a pressure point. The last thing the NFL wants -- after putting so much behind its brand in the UK -- is a good number of us to begin putting pressure on the BBC in terms of what they're showing and how they're showing it. This is not the image the NFL wants portrayed in the UK."
The game could also create a problem for Wembley Stadium, which "has strict regulations against the use of racial slurs and chanting at its events and is owned by the football association, which has taken a strong stance against racism in sports," the letter states.
You can read the letter in its entirety by clicking here.
The Week 8 game is a Bengals home game, so if the NFL decided to change it, and that's a big if, then it would likely involve another team on Cincinnati's home schedule playing in London. The NFL could also move the game to Cincinnati.
The Redskins' name controversy has slowly been gaining steam over the past few years.
In October, the state of California banned all public schools in the state from using the name "Redskins" as an athletic team name, mascot or nickname. That ruling came 18 months after the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office canceled Washington's trademark registration on the "Redskins" name.
The Redskins are appealing that ruling.
wouldn't bother me at all if we didn't have to go ...
Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:17 pm
by ferryrich
SkinsJock wrote:wouldn't bother me at all if we didn't have to go ...
It would bother me, I've already got my tickets!
Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:29 pm
by Burgundy&GoldForever
ferryrich wrote:SkinsJock wrote:wouldn't bother me at all if we didn't have to go ...
It would bother me, I've already got my tickets!
It would also bother my good friend Mark Bullock, among others.
Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:11 am
by SkinsJock
I'm sure there are a bunch of Redskins fans that are really looking forward to this game ...
hard to imagine that a couple of twits think that they can make the NFL put another team there instead
one things for sure - Snyder's not caving for these pommie 'cats'
the term 'Redskins' may not be as big a deal ...
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:06 am
by SkinsJock
speaking of "old issues" ... the "name" issue is not going away ...
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/new-p ... skins-name
Re: the term 'Redskins' may not be as big a deal ...
Posted: Thu May 19, 2016 11:17 am
by Burgundy&GoldForever
What name issue?

Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:45 pm
by SkinsJock
Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:23 pm
by Irn-Bru
It's over, I'd say. Not that a trademark ruling was ever going to be the thing that made Snyder change the name.
Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:44 pm
by rskin72
I thought the main stream media lost a lot of interest in this topic last summer when another poll of Native Americans showed that the vast majority did not think the name of the DC football team ranked as a big issue for them.
It was evolving to the absurd area with at least one company that I know of banned NFL apparel, lanyards and such at work merely because one individual had an issue with the name Redskins.
Now, at least when I head out garnered in my Redskin apparel and someone decides to inform me about how offensive they consider this...I can merely point to my first amendment rights....and request that they look the other way.
Re: Trademark Ruling May Have Implications On Redskins Trade
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:58 pm
by Bishop Hammer
Score one for the good guys!