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Ray Rice, still out of the league. Greg Hardy, still in the league.

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This guy is disgusting.
Goodell is bad enough... but an honorable owner would ship Hardy's ass to the unemployment line, and would quietly help other owners to understand why. Jerry Jones is a pig.

Well, to be fair here, Ray Rice is now a free agent, so it's on the teams (and considering he's a 28-year-old RB who was on the decline when he last played...). As for Hardy, Goodell DID give him 10 games (but it was reduced to 4...by the same arbitrator who upheld Josh Gordon's season-long suspension ).

When you are a player like Hardy, it seems that an owner like Jones will overlook just about everything

this stinks and the NFL certainly is going to take a huge hit for this

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Ray Rice, still out of the league. Greg Hardy, still in the league.

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this should be interesting

Countertrey wrote:This guy is disgusting. Goodell is bad enough... but an honorable owner would ship Hardy's ass to the unemployment line, and would quietly help other owners to understand why. Jerry Jones is a pig.

yep a real pig that there is a forgive and forget policy in the NFL, which allows
troubled athletes a second chance at the life of a NFL athlete while fans like you sit
here and whine and want to run only the ones who play for Dallas out the league
everyone else can stay

ACW wrote:Well, to be fair here, Ray Rice is now a free agent, so it's on the teams (and considering he's a 28-year-old RB who was on the decline when he last played...). As for Hardy, Goodell DID give him 10 games (but it was reduced to 4...by the same arbitrator who upheld Josh Gordon's season-long suspension ).

it should have been none, no conviction, arrested? yes...but justice is blind

SkinsJock wrote:When you are a player like Hardy, it seems that an owner like Jones will overlook just about everything

this stinks and the NFL certainly is going to take a huge hit for this

yep do whatever it takes if that means hiring a guy who beats women, shoots
friends, does dope. then by all means bring em on board, cause in the end
it only counts when you are hoisting the title not what they do off the field

You have lost your mind.

Lost my mind??? hmm.......convicted felons are being offered second chances now
but a guy who was never officially convicted, is a piece of trash and doesn't deserve
another shot?

I'm not the one with a lost mind buddy

Ray Rice? Where is he playing? Some folks don't get a second chance. Anyone not looking at those photos through Jerruh Homer glasses know's who has lost his mind.

Countertrey wrote:Ray Rice? Where is he playing? Some folks don't get a second chance. Anyone not looking at those photos through Jerruh Homer glasses know's who has lost his mind.

And some who were never convicted were guilty as hell and never should have gotten a second chance. See: Lewis, Ray. The NFL supposedly holds a higher moral standard than does the general public. Supposedly. The big issue is that it's selectively and arbitrarily enforced. No commissioner with any conscience would allow Greg Hardy to remain in the league which tells us the little we didn't already know about Roger Goodell, who will likely go down as one of the worst commissioners in the history of professional sports. He is to the legal profession the equivalent of an ambulance chaser. Greg Hardy is only still in the league because it's Jerry Jones. If it had been a team that doesn't make the NFL money hand over fist he would have suspended Hardy indefinitely. It's the "Good Ol' Boys" club and if you're in it you can do no wrong.

Rice isn't playing currently in the NFL!!! because Goodell the hypocrite sought
self validation by suspending him for simply defending himself...yet he let
Peterson and Hardy back in after a short lay off, which again is just more
proof that Goodell is a self loathing scumbag who has no idea how to run
a league

TexasCowboy wrote:Rice isn't playing currently in the NFL!!! because Goodell the hypocrite sought
self validation by suspending him for simply defending himself...yet he let
Peterson and Hardy back in after a short lay off, which again is just more
proof that Goodell is a self loathing scumbag who has no idea how to run
a league

Yes, because real men defend themselves from the woman they "love" by knocking them out.
Beyond that, I have no idea how you believe your response, acknowledging the POS called Goodell is, defends your "cut poor Mr Hardy a break" stance. Have you seen the pictures???

Countertrey wrote:

TexasCowboy wrote:Rice isn't playing currently in the NFL!!! because Goodell the hypocrite sought
self validation by suspending him for simply defending himself...yet he let
Peterson and Hardy back in after a short lay off, which again is just more
proof that Goodell is a self loathing scumbag who has no idea how to run
a league

Yes, because real men defend themselves from the woman they "love" by knocking them out.
Beyond that, I have no idea how you believe your response, acknowledging the POS called Goodell is, defends your "cut poor Mr Hardy a break" stance. Have you seen the pictures???

If you look at pictures, you're a puppet of the media, according to TC.

Countertrey wrote:You have lost your mind.

Aren't you assuming that he had 1? Remember who he roots for.

Countertrey wrote:Yes, because real men defend themselves from the woman they "love" by knocking them out.

Are you married/currently engaged or dating??? I ask this because it appears to me you really have no idea what
love is!!! especially if you think it's OK for her to go slapping and hitting him just because they had a mere disagreement

Countertrey wrote:Beyond that, I have no idea how you believe your response, acknowledging the POS called Goodell is, defends your "cut poor Mr Hardy a break" stance. Have you seen the pictures???

I have and I have my suspicions regarding the photo's, because I have a hard time believing
that the so called "media" who seems to be able to get all the low down dirt, couldn't some
how get photo's of alleged abuse..especially in a court case where the judge never said the
evidence would be withheld to the public until after trial

well there really was no trial, in fact there was no case at all!! there was no payoff, the case
was dismissed..because the witness failed to proceed with the pressing of charges, and then
all of a sudden poof!! the photo's come out and everyone and their mother says OK Hardy did
it case closed end of story

Parallel that exact same thing to the Kennedy assassination 50 years ago, and we have the
making of another patsy who is taking the wrap, for something he might not have even done
but you and the media have your minds made up..Hardy did it!! there couldn't be anyone else
who did it!! I bet you believe Oswald was the lone nut who shot Kennedy to?

Bin Laden perpetrated 9/11, the gulf war wasn't a lie, the Gulf of Tonkin incident really did
happen, Nixon pulling troops out of Vietnam was really to bring our boys home, not to further
escalate the bombings of the Vietcong, the planes and jet fuel brought down the towers, THE
Government never lies

if you believe all these things you are a lost cause and I feel sorry for you cause you really
have no idea what truth is

Has Hardy or his agent denied the incident even took place and why would the Panthers cut such a valuable player unless they knew the facts

Hardy is a low-life and hopefully Jones lets him go soon

TexasCowboy wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Yes, because real men defend themselves from the woman they "love" by knocking them out.

Are you married/currently engaged or dating??? I ask this because it appears to me you really have no idea what
love is!!! especially if you think it's OK for her to go slapping and hitting him just because they had a mere disagreement

42 years... to the same woman... I would never consider raising my hand to her, no matter what she might have done. Your response qualifies as one of the most ignorant I have seen in this forum...

TexasCowparanoiac wrote:

Countertrey wrote:Beyond that, I have no idea how you believe your response, acknowledging the POS called Goodell is, defends your "cut poor Mr Hardy a break" stance. Have you seen the pictures???

I have and I have my suspicions regarding the photo's, because I have a hard time believing
that the so called "media" who seems to be able to get all the low down dirt, couldn't some
how get photo's of alleged abuse..especially in a court case where the judge never said the
evidence would be withheld to the public until after trial

well there really was no trial, in fact there was no case at all!! there was no payoff, the case
was dismissed..because the witness failed to proceed with the pressing of charges, and then
all of a sudden poof!! the photo's come out and everyone and their mother says OK Hardy did
it case closed end of story

Parallel that exact same thing to the Kennedy assassination 50 years ago, and we have the
making of another patsy who is taking the wrap, for something he might not have even done
but you and the media have your minds made up..Hardy did it!! there couldn't be anyone else
who did it!! I bet you believe Oswald was the lone nut who shot Kennedy to?

Bin Laden perpetrated 9/11, the gulf war wasn't a lie, the Gulf of Tonkin incident really did
happen, Nixon pulling troops out of Vietnam was really to bring our boys home, not to further
escalate the bombings of the Vietcong, the planes and jet fuel brought down the towers, THE
Government never lies

if you believe all these things you are a lost cause and I feel sorry for you cause you really
have no idea what truth is

Oh... sorry... I guess it COULD get more ignorant...

I wonder where this tool gets his "truths"... Google? Mike Moore?

Gtfoh

She dropped the charges, likely for not wanting to be in the same room as her attacker- and you know a back room deal didn't go on to protect Hardys image?

Puke fans are trash... But defending a pos womanizer like Hardy- is a new low even puke shjt looks down on!!

Countertrey wrote:42 years... to the same woman... I would never consider raising my hand to her, no matter what she might have done. Your response qualifies as one of the most ignorant I have seen in this forum...

congratulations you are one of the rare few now a days who have lasted this long in marriage, none the less...
the fact you think it's OK for woman to hit men, is where I take issue..if you love someone as you claim then
nobody should be laying hands on anyone, am I right? of course I am. and there is a point where restraint is
going to end up breaking especially when or if? this is an ongoing issue, so he snapped and all of a sudden
now he's the bad guy. time to put it all down buddy and rethink this 1 cause your out of your element if
you can't see the truth beyond the trees

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:I wonder where this tool gets his "truths"... Google? Mike Moore?

Gtfoh

She dropped the charges, likely for not wanting to be in the same room as her attacker- and you know a back room deal didn't go on to protect Hardys image?

Puke fans are trash... But defending a pos womanizer like Hardy- is a new low even puke shjt looks down on!!

The point here is? you do whatever it takes to see this through to the bitter end, she didn't do that...that is not the
courts fault, that is not the NFL's fault, Hell it's not even the fault of Jerry signing this guy to a deal and allowing him
to play somewhere that he'd get a fresh start

that is? her fault...the good news is? he allowed divorce which nullified her fears, the compensation I believe came
in an out of court agreement to annull/disolve the marriage, but that does not in anyway dismiss the criminal charges
just because this happened...so again I say that is her fault!!!!! so we can stop pointing the fingers at anyone else in
this matter

Countertrey wrote:42 years... to the same woman...

I'm sponsoring you for a Purple Heart. Carry on. As you were.

TexasCowboy wrote:

Countertrey wrote:42 years... to the same woman... I would never consider raising my hand to her, no matter what she might have done. Your response qualifies as one of the most ignorant I have seen in this forum...

congratulations you are one of the rare few now a days who have lasted this long in marriage, none the less...
the fact you think it's OK for woman to hit men, is where I take issue..if you love someone as you claim then
nobody should be laying hands on anyone, am I right? of course I am. and there is a point where restraint is
going to end up breaking especially when or if? this is an ongoing issue, so he snapped and all of a sudden
now he's the bad guy. time to put it all down buddy and rethink this 1 cause your out of your element if
you can't see the truth beyond the trees

Because making up statements from me really reinforces your argument... I'm willing to wager that you are the only person here who sees where I stated, intimated, suggested or insinuated that it's "ok for women to hit men"... in fact, I don't even suggest anywhere that it's not ok for men to ever hit women, because there are absolutely circumstances where I would... but, getting slapped by the woman I love would NEVER be one of those circumstances. Pretty sure Ray Rice and Hardy were quite able to defend themselves without striking their woman... far more likely that it's simply that they think (and, apparently, you agree) it is "OK" to use violence to "manage" their women.

It also seems that it's fine to use any lie or paranoid assumption that pops into your head as a "fact" to support an argument. You clearly state as "fact" that I "think it's OK to for women to hit men" is, in fact, a lie.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

Countertrey wrote:42 years... to the same woman...

I'm sponsoring you for a Purple Heart. Carry on. As you were.

It is a mutual effort... but, thanks!

so if it's not OK for a woman to psychically abuse a man, then why make Rice the
bad guy??

TexasCowboy wrote:

so if it's not OK for a woman to psychically abuse a man, then why make Rice the
bad guy??

There's this remarkable solution for domestic problems that works 100% of the time: Leave. He didn't. She didn't. He's the public figure with the character clause in his contract. She's a nobody. He's held to a higher standard because it's a condition of his employment. There's nothing more complicated to it than that.

The real questions are as to why not everyone is held to the same standard ... (cough, cough, Ray Lewis, cough, cough)

Ray Rice deserves a second chance - fact is, Ray Rice is not perceived as being as much of a 'contributor' as Gagme Hardy

SkinsJock wrote:Ray Rice deserves a second chance - fact is, Ray Rice is not perceived as being as much of a 'contributor' as Gagme Hardy

This. If Ray Rice were, say, Adrian Peterson, or if he were younger, than maybe teams would give him a chance. But considering he was already on the decline...