Forbath Out?

Burgundy&GoldForever · Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:03 pm

The Washington Redskins are planning to release kicker Kai Forbath and sign free agent Dustin Hopkins to fill his spot, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.

Mississippi Hog · Post by **Mississippi Hog** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:05 pm

Just saw this on ESPN.com. There wasn't a link to it, but it was on the homepage, top right corner.

Schefter: Redskins to dump Forbath

Kai Forbath's 46-yard missed FG will apparently be his last for the Redskins. A source tells Adam Schefter that Washington will release Forbath and sign former Saints and Bills kicker Dustin Hopkins.

EA7649 · Post by **EA7649** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:11 pm

Redskins kicked him of the roster :lol:

I'll have to look into the new guys stats. That one missed kick must have really irked Gruden.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:11 pm

Kai needed to get a lot better at kickoffs - his FG % was good but you have to get the ball deep on kickoffs

StorminMormon86 · Post by **StorminMormon86** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:15 pm

I don't think the rumored new guy, Dustin Hopkins, has ever even played a game in the NFL. He was hurt prior to the opener in 2013 for the Bills, and never regained the starting job or a roster spot.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:20 pm

While I agree, Jock, and I suspect there are ducks all lined up in the background, this will smell of scapegoating to an earnestly cynical and weary fan base. "Look, fans! We're fixing it!!!" Forbath did not cost that game... Yet, an ugly offensive collapse in the second half can be cured by firing the kicker? Weak.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:23 pm

merged, to enhance our ability to bicker over this development, and for our viewing pleasure!

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:24 pm

Countertrey wrote:While I agree, Jock, and I suspect there are ducks all lined up in the background, this will smell of scapegoating to an earnestly cynical and weary fan base. "Look, fans! We're fixing it!!!" Forbath did not cost that game... Yet, an ugly offensive collapse in the second half can be cured by firing the kicker? Weak.

ABSOLUTELY agree - actually, as soon as I read the post, I thought that this was a reaction - Forbath has been consistent and while his distance on kickoffs was a concern it's not exactly new or really horrible

EA7649 · Post by **EA7649** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:52 pm

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1607 ... e-k/page/1
http://www.foxsports.com/college-footba ... ins-player

PAPDOG67 · Post by **PAPDOG67** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:07 pm

Meanwhile, Zach Hocker, who we used a 6th rounder on last year looked pretty good for NO yesterday. Man when will we learn with FG kickers. Forbath will be signed be someone soon (Jacksonville perhaps) and will be a model of consistency for years just like all the other kickers we've let get away (Novak, Gano, Suisham) just to name a few. We haven't had consistency in the K position since Chip Lohmiller.

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:10 pm

PAPDOG67 wrote:Meanwhile, Zach Hocker, who we used a 6th rounder on last year looked pretty good for NO yesterday. Man when will we learn with FG kickers. Forbath will be signed be someone soon (Jacksonville perhaps) and will be a model of consistency for years just like all the other kickers we've let get away (Novak, Gano, Suisham) just to name a few. We haven't had consistency in the K position since Chip Lohmiller.

Zach Hocker should have won the position last year... His release was one of those "say what?" moments.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:25 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
Countertrey wrote:While I agree, Jock, and I suspect there are ducks all lined up in the background, this will smell of scapegoating to an earnestly cynical and weary fan base. "Look, fans! We're fixing it!!!" Forbath did not cost that game... Yet, an ugly offensive collapse in the second half can be cured by firing the kicker? Weak.

ABSOLUTELY agree - actually, as soon as I read the post, I thought that this was a reaction - Forbath has been consistent and while his distance on kickoffs was a concern it's not exactly new or really horrible

Yeah I don't quite get this move. Sucks that Kai missed that kick yesterday, but does anybody remember the decade+ long nightmare that our kicking position was before he got here?

Just seems like there isn't anything new going on with Forbath. Could have dealt with this last year or before camp.

StorminMormon86 · Post by **StorminMormon86** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:29 pm

Countertrey wrote:
PAPDOG67 wrote:Meanwhile, Zach Hocker, who we used a 6th rounder on last year looked pretty good for NO yesterday. Man when will we learn with FG kickers. Forbath will be signed be someone soon (Jacksonville perhaps) and will be a model of consistency for years just like all the other kickers we've let get away (Novak, Gano, Suisham) just to name a few. We haven't had consistency in the K position since Chip Lohmiller.

Zach Hocker should have won the position last year... His release was one of those "say what?" moments.

Agreed.

Head scratcher for sure.

tribeofjudah · Post by **tribeofjudah** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:46 pm

Mississippi Hog wrote:Just saw this on ESPN.com. There wasn't a link to it, but it was on the homepage, top right corner.

Schefter: Redskins to dump Forbath

Kai Forbath's 46-yard missed FG will apparently be his last for the Redskins. A source tells Adam Schefter that Washington will release Forbath and sign former Saints and Bills kicker Dustin Hopkins.

Good luck to him....and like the other 2 previously released (Swishy and Gano), Forbath will HOOK ON to a team and do well. Isn't that how it goes?

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:52 pm

The ironic thing:

August 2014 skins declare:
Forbath > Hocker

Sept 2015 NO declare:
Hocker > Hopkins

Then:
Skins cut Forbath for Hopkins.....

#-o

Oh --- and that 47 yarder he missed wasn't easy. The real issue was running 5-8, 193 Thompson to the left side on 3rd and 3. The snap and hold weren't perfect either. Forbath should have made it, but it wasn't NEARLY bad enough to cut the dude for. :roll:

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:05 pm

markshark84 wrote:The ironic thing:

August 2014 skins declare:
Forbath > Hocker

Sept 2015 NO declare:
Hocker > Hopkins

Then:
Skins cut Forbath for Hopkins.....

Oh --- and that 47 yarder he missed wasn't easy. The real issue was running 5-8, 193 Thompson to the left side on 3rd and 3. The snap and hold weren't perfect either. Forbath should have made it, but it wasn't NEARLY bad enough to cut the dude for.

Yup... I think we agree.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:54 pm

Countertrey wrote:
PAPDOG67 wrote:Meanwhile, Zach Hocker, who we used a 6th rounder on last year looked pretty good for NO yesterday. Man when will we learn with FG kickers. Forbath will be signed be someone soon (Jacksonville perhaps) and will be a model of consistency for years just like all the other kickers we've let get away (Novak, Gano, Suisham) just to name a few. We haven't had consistency in the K position since Chip Lohmiller.

Zach Hocker should have won the position last year... His release was one of those "say what?" moments.

Exactly.

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:57 pm

Countertrey wrote:
markshark84 wrote:The ironic thing:

August 2014 skins declare:
Forbath > Hocker

Sept 2015 NO declare:
Hocker > Hopkins

Then:
Skins cut Forbath for Hopkins.....

Oh --- and that 47 yarder he missed wasn't easy. The real issue was running 5-8, 193 Thompson to the left side on 3rd and 3. The snap and hold weren't perfect either. Forbath should have made it, but it wasn't NEARLY bad enough to cut the dude for.

Yup... I think we agree.

Make that three of us.

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:01 pm

I suspect — or at least, I hope — this has more to do with his performance on kickoffs than it does the missed kick from yesterday.

Oh well. Unless we get really lucky, we're in for another several-year stretch of kicker lottery. The last time was a blast, so I can't wait to see what we get this time around! :lol:

Irn-Bru · Post by **Irn-Bru** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:33 pm

Then again, maybe this was part of McCloughan's plan all along. Is the new kicker we signed 6'5" and 280?

Smurf85 · Post by **Smurf85** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:06 pm

Stupid ass move

The guy has hit 88% of his field goals in the last 3 years.

How in the hell is this a God idea.

PulpExposure · Post by **PulpExposure** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:51 pm

Just read on twitter from Keim:

Here's an important point to note in releasing Kai Forbath: the loss of coverage players such as Niles Paul and Adam Hayward made his lack of distance on knockoffs a much bigger issue. The Redskins need someone to take pressure off the kick coverage unit.

Smurf85 · Post by **Smurf85** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:20 pm

PulpExposure wrote:Just read on twitter from Keim:

Here's an important point to note in releasing Kai Forbath: the loss of coverage players such as Niles Paul and Adam Hayward made his lack of distance on knockoffs a much bigger issue. The Redskins need someone to take pressure off the kick coverage unit.

Okay fine sign a kicker for kickoffs,but don't release one that knows how to kick filed goals.

I bet Forbath is picked up by another team.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:02 pm

who cares if a good player goes to another team - it's a mistake to let a good player go - end of story

OTOH - we pick up good players from other teams - we all hope those players do well for us - should we just keep every good player we get and never let them go - there are lot's of great players that don't suit what a franchise needs and end up having good careers elsewhere

that's what happens in the NFL

Burgundy&GoldForever · Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:13 pm

I think everyone knows kickoffs have been an issue, however, so is a kicker who can't even attempt field goals of fifty plus yards due to lack of leg strength. It's probably a little easier to connect on 88% of your attempts if they're all from 45 yards or shorter. If you get to the opposing 35 and come away with no points, here at Slappy's, that's a big problem. Bonus points to anyone who gets that reference.

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