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RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:29 pm
by oneman56
Posted to if griffin flops topic but this may need it's own. Per John Keim:

After further tests, an independent neurologist reversed his decision and said Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III will not be cleared for Saturday's game at Baltimore. Griffin suffered concussion-like symptoms in the second preseason game vs. Detroit. He practiced all week but followed the concussion protocol all week. On Thursday it was announced that he had been cleared.

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:29 pm
by oneman56

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:43 pm
by DarthMonk
Good scoop.

Washington Redskins ✔@Redskins
Upon further review by neuropsychologists, RGIII to be held out from gameplay this week & rested 1 to 2 weeks before returning to action.
7:15 PM - 28 Aug 2015

Hey Kirk - please light it up!

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:54 pm
by StorminMormon86
Cue the conspiracy threads!

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:31 pm
by fwarren
To Whoever paid off that Neurologist, we love you! I do not believe Snyder would ever let Coach not start RG unless the Doc said so. Now we get to see how much Cousins matured and improved over the year. He worked out extensively with Jon Gruden and I believe he is our QB of the future. I don't believe we could get even a 5th round draft pick for RG in a trade, and he would be a horrid back-up ... as the best QB in the NFL! PLEASE Kirk, be a star on Saturday night! This is your second and probably last chance to take the No. 1. Show the world what you can do.

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:37 pm
by tribeofjudah
fwarren wrote:To Whoever paid off that Neurologist, we love you! I do not believe Snyder would ever let Coach not start RG unless the Doc said so. Now we get to see how much Cousins matured and improved over the year. He worked out extensively with Jon Gruden and I believe he is our QB of the future. I don't believe we could get even a 5th round draft pick for RG in a trade, and he would be a horrid back-up ... as the best QB in the NFL! PLEASE Kirk, be a star on Saturday night! This is your second and probably last chance to take the No. 1. Show the world what you can do.


LOL....that is funny. Yes, thank you doctor for putting the brakes on Bob3.

Look at what has become of our #1 pick...............smh

On that note: chants goes up "Cousins Cousins Cousins"

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:02 pm
by SkinsJock
I'd love for both Cousins and McCoy to take advantage of this opportunity and show that they can be good NFL QBs ... :lol:

IMO - This is a very good situation for all concerned ...

however, if I was a betting man, I'd bet on Griffin to be the starting QB here in 2016 :D

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:10 pm
by tribeofjudah

John Keim, ESPN Staff Writer

STERLING, Va. -- The assumption had been all along that Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III would get a certain number of games to prove himself. One report even suggested he’d get the entire season, no matter what.

Now you have to wonder if he’ll get any games at all this season. It’s a big leap to go from a quarterback not being cleared for the third preseason game because of a possible concussion to the notion that he could be replaced permanently. But all things are possible in Washington, and when it comes to Griffin and the Redskins, everything is on the table. So let the speculation and conspiracy theories begin.

Earlier Friday night, after dedicating a local high school football field the Redskins helped fund, team president Bruce Allen made it clear there was no mandate to play Griffin if he struggled.

“That’s coach [Jay] Gruden’s decision,” Allen said. “The coach will decide who’s going to play. Obviously, Coach Gruden, along with his assistant coaches, will decide who is the running back and the quarterback and the defensive lineman. They make those decisions.”

If it’s indeed up to Gruden, then any opening Griffin leaves could pave the way for a longer change than just the one or two weeks he might miss. In a statement released by the team, the independent neurologist said Griffin would need one to two weeks of rest before being tested again. If that’s the case, Kirk Cousins almost assuredly would start the season. He’ll start Saturday vs. Baltimore, and if he plays well, then it’s hard to imagine the team going back to Griffin -- what would be the grounds? This being Washington, a new twist is always a week or two away.

Still, know this: Cousins always had strong fans among the coaching staff, even after he was benched last season. Those feelings only increased this summer with the more he's played. Last year, one coach said he felt Cousins had been given a “raw deal” in being benched and then never returning. Another coach's eyes lit up talking about Cousins' preseason.

And also know this: When Gruden talks about Cousins in his pressers, there’s a different tone in his voice than when he talks about Griffin. With Griffin on some days, Gruden searches hard to stay positive. His body language suggests discomfort; yes, you can’t read into everything, but when a man looks pained, you notice. Gruden should not play poker. When it comes to Cousins and even Colt McCoy, Gruden's tone is different. I'm just telling you what I see and hear.

The tricky part remains for Cousins. He must go out and play well to keep the job. He must respond better to interceptions. He must show that the nine starts he made were just full of growing pains and not an indication that he's an up-and-down quarterback destined to be a solid backup. Just like nothing was guaranteed for Griffin entering camp, other than he had first shot, nothing should be handed to Cousins. With Cousins, there is no drama. There is no worrying about what he’ll say or how he’s perceived in the locker room. That's what Gruden has wanted: a focus on 53, not one plus 52. You can’t blame Griffin for always being the focal point, but you also can’t ignore the role he’s played.

You don’t want to go overboard speculating on what this means. For Griffin, it’s a health issue and one that concerns his future -- he’s had two previous concussions. Any knock to the head a couple of years later can cause issues that might not occur for someone who had never had one.

But I also wonder what this means for his time in Washington. He did not play well enough in the games to support the idea that he should be the starter. He did not progress to the coach’s liking, with questions about his instincts in the pocket among other issues. Whether or not players liked or loved him doesn't matter if he's playing well and producing. But that's the problem: Griffin stopped producing.

This reversal by the neurologist leads to all sorts of questions. It might not be Griffin who provides the answers.



Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:24 pm
by SkinsJock
we have a QB that is about to play a good defense and he's obviously not ready ... we have an owner that refuses to accept that his 'pride and joy QB' is not ready for the NFL and now we get a neurologist giving the owner's pet a mulligan

OK - Cousins and McCoy get to show their stuff - Griffin, meanwhile, is still the owner's choice for QB ... stay tuned ... :lol:

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:31 pm
by SkinsJock
for the past week, we have all understood that it did not matter how badly Griffin played against Baltimore, he would start against Miami

It should be the same for Cousins - no matter how badly he does against Baltimore, Cousins should be the starter against Miami

Cousins will most likely not be here in 2016 so it really does not matter - let's see what he can do

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:40 pm
by DarthMonk
SkinsJock wrote:we have a QB that is about to play a good defense and he's obviously not ready ... we have an owner that refuses to accept that his 'pride and joy QB' is not ready for the NFL and now we get a neurologist giving the owner's pet a mulligan

OK - Cousins and McCoy get to show their stuff - Griffin, meanwhile, is still the owner's choice for QB ... stay tuned ... :lol:


Hmmm ...

Dan is probably thinking about 16 million things at the same time. Throwing a damaged Griffin out there against the Ravens would be mighty risky. Maybe Dan's the one getting the Mulligan.

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:44 pm
by fwarren
SkinsJock wrote:for the past week, we have all understood that it did not matter how badly Griffin played against Baltimore, he would start against Miami

It should be the same for Cousins - no matter how badly he does against Baltimore, Cousins should be the starter against Miami

Cousins will most likely not be here in 2016 so it really does not matter - let's see what he can do



You are exactly right, but if Kirk stumbles McCoy will be the next starter. That is the Redskins way...stumble through major decisions. I just hope Cousins does a good job and stays with the Redskins at least three more years after we draft the next great hope!

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:50 am
by SkinsJock
This is a win win situation for skins fans ... we get to see what we've got for this season in Cousins or McCoy and we don't get to see Griffin risk injury (and the potential $16M hit) unless he's really needed

The owner obviously wants Griffin at QB but why risk that hit behind this line - why not wait and see what we've got in these 2 and then if you have to, you put Griffin back in there - the line gets a few games to get better to play behind and Griffin, obviously, is not ready yet :roll:

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:58 am
by SkinsJock
fwarren wrote:I just hope Cousins does a good job & stays with the Redskins at least 3 more years after we draft the next great hope


+1 Justice - I also hope Cousins lights it up - I doubt that he's good enough to be an NFL starter but he could surprise a lot of us for 2-3 years

Capt. Kirk to the rescue ...

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:31 am
by oj
A wink and a nod, 'holy *sh$t*, Bob isn't fit to play'. Is this an elegant 'out'?
So now that Cousins starts are they going to support him when he makes mistakes or throw him under the bus like a jilted lover looking for an excuse. I'll vote the latter.
I like Cousins a lot, I think he is the best QB we've had in ages and he doesn't get the support he needs because of the RGIII situation. He is doomed, he'll go out and win us some games and when the 2nd interception happens the jilted lovers will call for his head. Not because he isn't competant but because he isn't who they wish they had playing quaterback.

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:08 am
by tribeofjudah
Hmmm...... makes you think:

Some say that this Oline is "playing weak" on purpose to hurt Bob (I don't buy that). But it does make you wonder if individually, the players KNOW that Bob is "the chosen" one and they don't like that?

Notice how the Oline play "better" when Kirk or Colt are under center.

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:31 am
by SkinsJock
tribeofjudah wrote:Hmmm...... makes you think: Some say that this Oline is "playing weak" on purpose to hurt Bob (I don't buy that).
But it does make you wonder if individually, the players KNOW that Bob is "the chosen" one and they don't like that?

Notice how the O-line plays "better" when Kirk or Colt are under center.


WRONG - the O-line may appear to play 'better' because of how a QB plays but that thought is just not true
every player is aware that all plays are heavily scrutinized & evaluated - if a player looks like he's dogging it he knows he will be out of a job

that is just BS stuff that some fans (and haters) like to speculate about - get real

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:32 am
by EA7649
Just saw on ESPN that the skins plan to have Kirk as the opening day starter. This is a sad day for me personally, I like Kirk don't get me wrong if he tries to prove himself again and he is consistent good for him. If he has sucky games again I hope Robert is the #2 guy. I'll provide a link in a minute

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:43 am
by EA7649
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/ ... art-week-1
https://twitter.com/diannaESPN

I think its a little fishy, I'll wait for Gruden to give an answer.

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:51 am
by cowboykillerzRGiii
I think that's kind of premature.. I think Kirk NEEDS to perform well under this pressure, something he hasn't done very well of in the past.

If he is only OK I think the merry go round keeps on turning.

Safe to say, at least at this point... That no one on this green planet knows who the f the QB is gonna be come week one.

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:04 pm
by EA7649
cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:I think that's kind of premature.. I think Kirk NEEDS to perform well under this pressure, something he hasn't done very well of in the past.

If he is only OK I think the merry go round keeps on turning.

Safe to say, at least at this point... That no one on this green planet knows who the f the QB is gonna be come week one.


I agree! But the media isn't going to act like is premature. Just giving you guys a heads up. I want to hear Gruden confirm it, as I wrote earlier.

I'm sure we will see a title Kirk is the starter!!! lol. Well I wrote it here

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:00 pm
by SkinsJock
I really hope that Cousins and McCoy light it up and show they can help this franchise

I'm not a Cousins fan and think that we'll have to find a good starting QB if Griffin is done here but I'm not a hater like many others here ...

I want Griffin to be the starter because I think he's more talented than the other 2
at the same time I just want what's best for this franchise and at this time that is not Griffin

I'm not sure the Griffin story is over here but I do think that he's not the best QB for this offense at this time

all the best RG3 - get well soon - all the best Kirk - show me I'm wrong about you

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:09 pm
by SkinsJock
here's an article that indicates that Griffin might be done here and ...

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... r-over-rg3

For now, Griffin remains sidelined with that concussion, but his future beyond that is anyone's guess. That said, we would like to think that once he and the Redskins go their separate ways, he'll end up in Philadelphia with Chip Kelly where he'll haunt Washington for years to come.

this is really such a positive thought - :(

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:37 pm
by StorminMormon86
SkinsJock wrote:I'm not a Cousins fan

Why?

Don't you want Cousins to succeed? He remains the last bastion of hope for this QB "carousel". We know what McCoy is. We know Griffin is done. Cousins is the last remaining "hope" that we have a decent QB on the roster who can help us win some games, or at the very least manage the game and still get the W.

Re: RGIII out

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:57 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
I wonder if he never takes another snap for us... If he gets that 16mil since he was technically "injured"