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Best QB in the league.........

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13456058/robert-griffin-iii-washington-redskins-feels-best-quarterback-nfl

hopefully Cousins and McCoy feel the same way in that they are doing everything they can do to be the best QB they can be

just like Robert Griffin III ...

First of all what Robert said isn't exactly what you said in the title. Its leading. This what Robert said,

I don't feel like I have to come out here and show anybody anything or why I'm better than this guy or better than that guy. I am the best on this team. I feel like I'm the best in the league and have to go out and show that"

I don't think it was smart to pressure on himself though. He has done that in the past...not so good luck.

I don't think that many of these guys rely on 'luck' per se - luck is a part of life - these guys do everything they can to ensure they succeed

Griffin is doing the best he can to help this franchise - only time will tell whether the hard work & coaching will result in his being a better QB

Here's the full quote:

"I feel like I'm the best quarterback in the league, and I have to go out and show that," he told the station. "Any athlete at any level, if they concede to someone else, they're not a top competitor, they're not trying to be the best that they can be.

"There's guys in this league that have done way more than me. But I still view myself as the best because that's what I work toward every single day."

Stupid thing to say, because you know that reporters are going to skew it to sensationalize, and sell ad space.

"I don't feel like I have to come out here and show anybody anything or why I'm better than this guy or better than that guy," Griffin said.

This is the part I agree with since he's been gifted the job for the 4th year in a row.

If you are a fan of the redskins and have any problem whatsoever with your starting QB having this attitude and mind set at all times, then you are a bad redskins fan. Bad fan! BAD FAN!!

It doesn't matter if what he says is true, if you think Griffin has been gifted anything, or if you think Cousins/McCoy is the answer. If Robert said anything other than what he did, then he should be immediately benched. Because if he doesn't believe that, then no one else ever will.

Griffin's job is to be ready to play, and that takes confidence. The media, in all its glory, can suc. . . jump off a bridge. Man, good thing he doesn't have a radio show or anything.

SkinsJock wrote:I don't think that many of these guys rely on 'luck' per se - luck is a part of life - these guys do everything they can to ensure they succeed

Getting hurt against the Jags last year was bad luck. Freak play. It messed up the flow for that season.

emoses14 wrote:If you are a fan of the redskins and have any problem whatsoever with your starting QB having this attitude and mind set at all times, then you are a bad redskins fan. Bad fan! BAD FAN!!

It doesn't matter if what he says is true, if you think Griffin has been gifted anything, or if you think Cousins/McCoy is the answer. If Robert said anything other than what he did, then he should be immediately benched. Because if he doesn't believe that, then no one else ever will.

Griffin's job is to be ready to play, and that takes confidence. The media, in all its glory, can suc. . . jump off a bridge. Man, good thing he doesn't have a radio show or anything.

Obviously I have a problem with a guy who has played as poorly as Griffin the last couple years running his mouth. I would also have a problem with a highly productive guy so full of himself he announced he has nothing to prove, was not only the best at his position on the team but thought he was the best in the league. I think you'd have a problem with his comments also in another Redskin who didn't contribute much the last couple of seasons went off like Griffin. Saying this sort of stuff is moronic.

OldSchool wrote:

emoses14 wrote:If you are a fan of the redskins and have any problem whatsoever with your starting QB having this attitude and mind set at all times, then you are a bad redskins fan. Bad fan! BAD FAN!!

It doesn't matter if what he says is true, if you think Griffin has been gifted anything, or if you think Cousins/McCoy is the answer. If Robert said anything other than what he did, then he should be immediately benched. Because if he doesn't believe that, then no one else ever will.

Griffin's job is to be ready to play, and that takes confidence. The media, in all its glory, can suc. . . jump off a bridge. Man, good thing he doesn't have a radio show or anything.

Obviously I have a problem with a guy who has played as poorly as Griffin the last couple years running his mouth. I would also have a problem with a highly productive guy so full of himself he announced he has nothing to prove, was not only the best at his position on the team but thought he was the best in the league. I think you'd have a problem with his comments also in another Redskin who didn't contribute much the last couple of seasons went off like Griffin. Saying this sort of stuff is moronic.

I know you obviously have that problem. Thus the reason for my original post. You've determined that your keen eye, above all those analyzing and watching and training him and, coincidentally, whose livelihoods depend on Griffin's performance, is the be all end all on the man's ability. Sorry, it ain't. Your characterization of his responding to a question posed to him (which is part of his job description) as "running his mouth" speaks to the problem, too. He is not your damn child. Regardless of what you would or would not have a problem with, your characterization that Griffin is full of himself doesn't become more true the more often you say it.

To the point, he did not announce he has nothing to prove, turn and walk out. Context matters: The full quote in question is as follows:

“I don’t feel like I have to come out here and show anybody anything or why I’m better than this guy or better than that guy. It’s more about going out and affirming that for me, I go out and I play, I know I’m the best quarterback on this team.I feel like I’m the best quarterback in the league and I have to go out and show that. Any athlete at any level, if they concede to someone else, they’re not a top competitor, they’re not trying to be the best that they can be. There’s guys in this league that have done way more than me, but I still view myself as the best because that’s what I work toward every single day.”

Sorry, you don't get to cherry pick one sentence out of an entire paragraph and then try to contextualize, especially when the man himself already gave all the context the comment needs. He has nothing to prove to anyone but himself and if he can do that the rest will take care of itself. This is actually a mature way to attack life, but far be it from you to concede credit to backyard Bob.

To answer the straw man argument you've provided for me, no, I would not have a problem with any other Redskin feeling and speaking this way who is the starter and upon whom so much of a season's success depends. ESPECIALLY, when I'd already seen with my own two eyes that same player deliver the way Griffin did in 2012. No matter how hard you try and etch a sketch shake that year out of existence, it won't work.

You aren't writing headlines for click bait. I'd expect that ilk to do what they did and sensationalize a few words from the full contextual quote from Griffin. I'd expect Redskin message board participants to be bit more nuanced. Cherry picking partial quotes to fit some preconceived narrative you're championing is intellectually lazy and dishonest.

For a 7 figure income I'd publicly state Griffin was coming along or whatever else Dan Snyder wanted to hear also so I don't fault the enablers of this nonsense.

I would have expected him to say that at the beginning of 2012 not at the beginning of 2015, he needs some self doubt to get better. If you are the best....

I don't have any issue with him THINKING like this but as far as what he actually SAYS, I think he needs to watch the movie Bull Durham.

"We gotta play 'em one day at a time."
"I'm just happy to be here. Hope I can help the ball club."
"I just wanna give it my best shot and, the good Lord willing, things will work out."

brad7686 wrote:I don't have any issue with him THINKING like this but as far as what he actually SAYS, I think he needs to watch the movie Bull Durham.

"We gotta play 'em one day at a time."
"I'm just happy to be here. Hope I can help the ball club."
"I just wanna give it my best shot and, the good Lord willing, things will work out."

Agreed. I don't think it was smart for him to say this. It's unnecessary and the media will jump all over it. Exactly what we didn't need at this point in the year, with the state this team is in.

At first, I thought this was a joke. If he had prefaced his statement with , I want, I'm working, my goal is, -
to be the best QB in the league, it may be more in line with what he is thinking.

People will continue to scrutinize everything he says till he proves he is that guy, but for fans to chew him up for stating his goal, although not very eloquently, is just a shame. Dude just wants to win. I'm behind that 100%. If in his mind he feels he is the best, what does it hurt? I'd rather him be confident than to continue to doubt himself. That would only lead to a lack of determination to better himself and be the best.

oj wrote:I would have expected him to say that at the beginning of 2012 not at the beginning of 2015, he needs some self doubt to get better. If you are the best....

OldSchool wrote:

"I don't feel like I have to come out here and show anybody anything or why I'm better than this guy or better than that guy," Griffin said.

This is the part I agree with since he's been gifted the job for the 4th year in a row.

Hes beaten out every QB not been gifted the job. Griffin is clearly the most talented QB on the roster plain and simple.

Kirk had his chance to start and consistently threw interceptions when he started are you forgetting this?


Thats why I blame the Oline and lack of talent at the Oline for the QB struggles for the most part.

I know Kirk is talented. But I know that Griffin is more talented. Which is why I would start Griffin.

What's hilarious is that he wasn't even asked a question as to whether or not he felt he was the best in the league, he was asked a question about competitiveness driving him on the field to get better. And that was the way he responded. Delusional.

HEROHAMO wrote:

OldSchool wrote:Kirk had his chance to start and consistently threw interceptions when he started are you forgetting this?

Just like to point out that Robert has had his chance to start consistently and has a combined record of 5-17 as a starter in the past two seasons. This irritates me to no end...Kirk has had his chance, Colt had his chance, and Griffin had his chance. NONE of them took the job and ran with it, and they still haven't. Which makes the open competition not happening (you can say it is, but realistically what kind of shot does Cousins or McCoy have to become the starter by week 1) even more baffling.

What an idiot... This is symptomatic of the larger issue at hand. His perception of reality and of himself is distorted. He cannot fully and objectively self evaluate.

The quote itself I have no problem with. It's the fact that he still doesn't get how to answer a question without giving the media ammo to drum up stories.

StorminMormon86 wrote:The quote itself I have no problem with. It's the fact that he still doesn't get how to answer a question without giving the media ammo to drum up stories.

That's it, right there... It's like he lives in a bubble. LOL He can't help himself, it's no wonder he's a polarizing figure in the locker room. You know the receivers are going to be asked to comment, and now they're put in an awkward position. LOL

it's really not that big of a deal - I like it ... and he's going to show that he's a lot better than we saw, the past 2 seasons