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what would be your 22 starters if you could put together your own team from an era?1930s to 2004 all players anybody.i have not put mine together yet as a matter of fact just came up with this idea.so think it over have a little fun with it.might help opening day get here a little faster.REDSKINZ4EVER!!!

Redskin or NFL?

i'am sorry about that. "REDSKINS" maybe in another post it could be the nfl i'll wait and see how this one goes.REDSKINZ4EVER!!!

QB: Joe Theisman with Jurgensen and Baugh as backups
RB: John Riggins with Larry Brown and Earnest Byner
WR's: The Posse and throw in Charley Taylor and Henry Ellard
TE's: Warren, Diddier and Orr
Tackles: Lachey, Jacoby
Gaurd's: Grimm, Schlereth
Center: Bostic

Defense

Ends: Manley, Mann
Tackles: Butz, D.Grant
LB's: W.Marshall, M.Coleman, S.Huff....and I have to add Ken Harvey and Andre Collins

DB's: Green, Bailey, Fischer, Nelms, Mayhew
Safties: K.Houston, A.Walton, B.Edwards, D.Copeland.

K: lohmiller and Moseley
P: Turk and Roby

Return man: Brian Mitchell

They would play in RFK and Phil Hochberg would be the PA announcer and tickets for our seats in the second deck on the budweiser sign would go back to 35 bucks. Instead of getting seats deemed "Comparable" at fed ex which are upper deck.

MIKE BASS WAS A GOOD CORNER ALSO

Heres my read - (remember this from a guy who has onlybeen able to see redskins games since the beginning of gibbs era and then only 3 games a year on average)

QB - Doug Williams
RB - John Riggins
HB/TE - Don Warren, Clint Didier
WR - Art Monk, Gary Sanders
OL - Joe Jacoby, Russ Grimm, Jeff Bostic, Mark Schlereth, Lachey

DL - Charles Mann, Dave Butz, Darryl Grant, Dexter Manley
LB - Lavar Arrington, Monte Coleman, Wilbur Marshall
CB - Champ Bailey, Darryl Green
S - Alvin Walton, (Cant remember his name but played safety in our first SB win and was captain of the defence)

Punter - Matt Turk
Kicker - Mark Moseley

KR - Mike Nelms

Q.B.theismann-backup jurgensen R.B.riggins-backup portis T.E.warren-backup didier O.L.the hogs W.R.the posse + l.coles D.L.mann,manley,butz,grant L.B. m.coleman,harvey,s.huff C.B.d.green,c. bailey,walton,edwards safeties P.roby-K.mosley-K.R.P.R.-b.mitchell.REDSKINZ4EVER!!!

Amberion wrote:WR - Art Monk, Gary Sanders
S - Alvin Walton, (Cant remember his name but played safety in our first SB win and was captain of the defence)

Do you mean Gary Clark or Ricky Sanders? Or a combination of both? How about Ricky Clark?
The safety I believe you refer to is Mark Murphy.

Glad to see you had Mike Nelms down as your returner. Good though Mitchell is, anyone who saw Mike Nelms return kicks would take him ahead of anyone.

Most of the players mentioned are from the more recent teams. There are a lot of very solid Redskins from earlier eras as well. I'm surprised no one even mentioned Bobby Mitchell. Couple of other names Jerry Smith (TE, retired with the most catches for a TE in NFL history), Len Hauss C, linebackers Chris Hanburger, Jack Pardee, Mo Pottios; Corners Pat Fischer and Mike Bass; Safeties Ken Houston and Paul Krause (no Washingtion safeties before or after are even in the same league as these two) and Richie Pettibon.

And I wonder how Charlie Harraway would have faired as and H back?

I'd like to see Sean Taylor added to this list.

A little old, a little new. Here is my picks:

QB Jurgensen (not even close)
RB Riggins, Larry Brown
WR Charlie Taylor, Bobbie Mitchell, Art Monk
TE Jerry Smith, Donnie Warren
C Len Hauss, Jeff Bostic
G Russ Grimm, Vince Promuto
T Jacoby, Lachey

DT Diron Talbert, Dave Butz
DE Charles Mann, Ron McDole
LB Arrington, Huff, Hanburger
CB Green, Bailey
S Ken Houston, Paul Krause (not even close)

K Lohmiller
P Roby
KR Nelms (I thought about picking Thiesman, just for fun)

coach St. Joe

Sammy Baugh was one of the greatest who ever played the game...how anyone can say he's not the #1 choice is beyond me??

DEHog wrote:Sammy Baugh was one of the greatest who ever played the game...how anyone can say he's not the #1 choice is beyond me??

probably cuz anyone who was old enough to see him play probably doesn't know how to use a computer much less log on to the internet.

Okay here's mine.

QB-Sonny Jurgenson
RB-John Riggens
FB-Charley Harraway or H-back Clint Didier
WR-Art Monk, Gary Clark, Charley Taylor
TE-Jerry Smith, Don Warren
T- Joe Jacoby
T- Jim Lachey
G- Russ Grimm
G- Mark May
C- Len Hauss
K- Mark Mosley
P- Sammy Baugh

DE-Deacon Jones
DE-Dexter Manley
DT-Diron Talbert or Bill Brundage
DT-Dave Butz
LB-Chris Hanburger
LB-Lavar Arrington
MLB-Neal Olkawitz
CB-Darrell Green
CB-Pat Fisher
SS-Ken Houston
FS-Paul Krause
PR-Mike Nelms
KR-Brian Mitchell

All i know is Arrington has to be on there.

How one could make an all-time Redskin team and not include Redskins that are in the HOF is beyond me.

I can see how some can argue Jurgenson over Baugh at QB, but if that's the person's decision, at least include Baugh as the punter.

I've seen no mention yet of Bobby Mitchell or Cliff Battles amongst others and I would argue that Paul Krause was more of a Viking than a Redskin.

Everybody is posting the obvious, so I'll buck the trend...

QB - Trent Green or Rich Gannon
RB - Ricky Ervins & Stephen Davis
FB - Moses Denson
TE - Jerry Smith
WR - Charlie Brown
WR - Danny Buggs
WR - Roy Jefferson
T - Jim Lachey (an obvious choice, but he was a fave of mine)
T - Ed Simmons
C - Len Hauss
G - Raliegh McKenzie
G - Walt Rock
PR - Speedy Duncan
KR - Herb Mul-Key
K - Curt Knight
P - Steve Cox

DE - Coy Bacon
DE - Jumpy Geathers
DT - Bill Brundige
DT - Sean Gilbert (HAH!)
LB - Jack Pardee
LB - Kurt Gouveia
LB - Rich Milot (Honorable Mention: Brad Dusek)
CB - Vernon Dean
CB - Martin Mayhew
S - Brig Owens
S - Jake Scott
Special Teams - Pete Wysocki & Pete Cronan

Okay, the team to make even Redskins fans switch sides...

QB - Jay Schroeder
RB - Calvin Hill & Duane Thomas
TE - Bryon Chamberlain
WR - Desmond Howard
WR - Michael Westbrook (honorable mention: Alvin Harper)
T - Mo Elowonibi
T - Shar Pourdanesh
C - Ted Fritsch
G - Derrick Dockery
G - John Wilbur
K - Eddie Murray
P - Joe Theismann

DE - Bruce Smith
DE - Tracy Rocker
DT - Sean Gilbert
DT - Santana Dotson
LB - Carl Banks
LB - Derek Smith
CB - Deion Sanders
CB - Barry Wilburn (honroable mention Troy Nixon...was that his name?)
S - Mark Carrier
S - David Terrell

Coach - Norv Turner
Off. Coord. - Joe Walton
Def. Coord. - Mike Nolan

throw in matt mendenhall and mike oliphant and you've got a solid squad there

psulavar sorry to break this to you but he's not even the best LB in the league RAY LEWIS does that name ring a bell. if there was a straight up trade i would take ray for lavar in a heart beat.REDSKINZ4EVER!!!

I love Neal, but Sam is a HOF.

Baugh was great, but it was a different era. The "pure" quaterback of today did not yet exist. Sammy was a cross between a running back and a quarterback, hence my pick of Jurgensen. He is a HOF'er too! And not only that, but I was Sonny's paperboy! I delivered the Washington Post to him back in the days when they had paperboys. Can you imagine my eyes when I knocked on the door to collect each month??!

curveball not all of us including myself are really that old and did not see baugh or jurgensen play. i put sam huff in because my father and grandfather always use to tell me stories.i don't even know who bobby mitchell or cliff battles are.what postion did they play what and what year or years did they play for the redskins??REDSKINZ4EVER!!!

silent1903 wrote:

Amberion wrote:WR - Art Monk, Gary Sanders
S - Alvin Walton, (Cant remember his name but played safety in our first SB win and was captain of the defence)

Do you mean Gary Clark or Ricky Sanders? Or a combination of both? How about Ricky Clark?
The safety I believe you refer to is Mark Murphy.

Glad to see you had Mike Nelms down as your returner. Good though Mitchell is, anyone who saw Mike Nelms return kicks would take him ahead of anyone.

meant Ricky Sanders

Had to include Mike as he was only person I saw return 2 TD in the few games I get to see in Australia

Thanks for the assist with Murphy

genuswine hoglover has a team I would pick, except for QB. Sonny was the best passer in recent history, but Sammy Baugh invented the position: the greatest all-time QB. Before Baugh, a passer -- who was usually a single-wing tailback -- would flop and float a ball. Slingin Sammy perfected the bullet pass.

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Don't forget:

- Gen Brito, all-pro defensive end from the '50's, or

- Mean John Paluck, DE, from the late '50s and early '60s.

- Or Joe Rutgens, DT from the '60s.

(Mark Murphy might be the safety people tried to remember from SB17. Good, but not equal to Kenny Houston or Paul Krause.)

I'm very, bery happy to see #81 included on most of the modern-day lists. It gives me great pleasure that he's not been forgotten, and a little hope that there's a new "Art Gallery" out there to help to get him the Hall where he belongs.
Thumbs up, boys. Thumbs up. You made an old man happy.