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Larry Allen question
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:12 pm
by Texas Hog
How does Allen visiting and possibly signing with the kittens or the faiders effect the pukes' cap situation or dead money situation? Not favorably I hope.
I can see the ignorant faiders signing him.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:45 pm
by Texas Redskin
I read in the Dallas Moring News that if they traded him it would be an 8 mil cap hit this year. If they wait until after June 1 it will be around 2 mil.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:45 pm
by Texas Redskin
I don't see anybody trading for him. He will probably be released in June.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:48 pm
by Texas Redskin
To add to this, if they cut him in June it will not only cost them 2 mil this year, it will be a 6 mil hit on their cap next year.
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 7:40 pm
by curveball
He'll be cut pre-June 1st or traded before camp or it's not worthwhile to unload him this season.
Dallas has plenty of cap space, most are hypothesising that the lack of major spending in FA was in anticipation of this, so forwarding what's left of his SB won't really hurt the team.
If he's gone pre-June 1 or traded after, which also accelerates his bonus, the Cowboys will have between $5.7-6.2 million left before signing draft picks.
His cap hit this year is in the $5.5 range and cutting him this season would only raise it to around $8.
The only problem with letting him go is a shocking amount of "dead" money on this year's cap when it's coupled with Galloway, Young, and a few minor ones.
On the upside, the cap space for 2005 could be upwards of $20 million.
** I edited his cap #s.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:44 am
by Texas Redskin
Aren't they only 11 mil under the cap? dallasnews.com reported that it would be a 8 mil hit if they drop him this year. 10 is better. That would leave them with just 1 mil under.
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:33 am
by curveball
Texas Redskin wrote:Aren't they only 11 mil under the cap? dallasnews.com reported that it would be a 8 mil hit if they drop him this year. 10 is better. That would leave them with just 1 mil under.
You're forgetting that he already has a "hit" on the cap this year. The only number you need to look at when discussing cap hits for cutting players is the difference between what he would cost to keep vs. cut.
EX. a team has $10 million in cap space. Player A is making 5 million this season. He would count as $7 million if he's cut. The cap space would only drop $2 million (the difference) so the team would still have $8 million left, not $3 million.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:02 am
by tx_skins_fan
I read in Sunday's Dallas Morning News that JJ paid Allen his entire remaining signing bonus, and intended to keep him on the team. Interesting.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 9:04 am
by Texas Hog
what are they saying about his health?
he sure looked pathetic at times last year
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:56 am
by tx_skins_fan
Jerry said in the article that he won't be participating in off-season workouts, but he expects him to be ready for camp.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:47 am
by Texas Hog
that's ridiculous.....he's gonna be a fat ba$tard coming into camp

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:53 pm
by tx_skins_fan
At least he'll be a fat bastard in Dallas.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:11 pm
by curveball
The whole problem with Parcells/Allen is driven by differences of opinion on weight training. Parcells has always used one system to great success while Allen resents being told how to lift.
Allen is big into the bench (allegedly benching 750+) while Parcells doesn't place emphasis on that.
Allen's working out on his own a the Y, while most of the rest of the team are working out at the Cowboys' facility.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 3:28 pm
by Texas Hog
I've heard that about him benching 750...that's insane! but....don't think it's going to do him much good if the wheels are falling off.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:41 pm
by skinsfaninroanoke
I thought I was doing good pyramiding 255 when I was into lifting...
Sheesh