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I stopped buying my tickets but I didn't bail on the Skins as disgusted as I am with Snyder and all the misery he creates but next year is going to be different for me, Snyder will have to meet and ante for me to tune in to his team. I'm setting a minimum I need to see or I'm going to pass. Next season I am going to pass on the Skins unless the there is a open QB competition.

Maybe that would only be a sideshow because none of the 3 are good enough or the rest of team is so flaw none of them can produce more than 3 or 4 wins but Snyder will need to turn the reins over to Gruden to compete the QB job or I am not going to watch at all. My attention is conditional next year, I am playing golf on Sundays if I don't see the QB job competed and feel Gruden is in charge. Snyder isn't going to spin up the usual BS and get me interested, my attention next year is conditional. Will you watch by default or do the Skins need to do something to get you to pay attention in 2015?

My goodwill towards the team is completely used up, but I will always pay attention and "follow" the Redskins. I have a life so I'm not going to take time out of my day and spend 3+ hrs watching a day game, but I try to always watch the prime time affairs...

OldSchool wrote:Will you watch by default or do the Skins need to do something to get you to pay attention in 2015?

You know, man, I actually think this has been part of the problem with the team for a long time. We haven't been good, and instead of doing the boring rebuilding stuff that needed to be done, Snyder has constantly done things to "get you to pay attention" instead. I don't need to list all of those things for you.

There are some changes I'd be happy to see, but I'm actually hoping the team doesn't do anything that causes everybody to immediately pay attention. I hope they draft guys who are rock solid and probably not household names. I hope we don't spend a week on a twitter obsessed pursuit of this year's DeSean Jackson. I'd like to not be this year's offseason champs.

Your wish for an open QB competition seems like a good request too. I really don't want to hear anything from RGIII. I just want to see him go out this spring and summer and prove he's the best QB on the roster - or make way for whoever is.

you said it well, Snyder makes some sort of bold move that gets our attention that invariably turns out to be stupid. I am with you I want quiet incremental moves and to know that Gruden is in charge and seeing quiet smart free agency and draft moves plus a real QB competition is what I need to see. Otherwise I'm focusing on my long neglected short game and breaking 80 for the first time.

riggofan wrote:I really don't want to hear anything from RGIII.

Too late. Already started with the idiotic "inspirational" tweets.

I am already out. I did not attend games or watched TV this season and I will not attend or watch the next season either. Daniel Snyder's ego and his dysfunctional "organizational approach" has already imposed a heavy penalty of frustration and pain.

Many good fans have left already. Many stopped watching this team already for a while. Most of the few souls who remain here do not remember the quantity and quality of great and knowledgeable posters we used to have. I do. I had been here for a long time.

Obviously, I will be in the minority because ... those who left ... LEFT! They will not bother posting to inform you or watching TV or attending at the stadium. They just had it. Just like me. They were great fans and I miss them. There are just a handful left whose opinions I highly value.

My experience is very sad, I tried to lure my daughter and son into becoming Redskins fans away from Washington DC. My daughter used to dance to the band playing and the fans singing when she was 1 and a half years old and Joe Gibbs I was still here. My son was just not as fortunate. He watched during the Snyder era. A decade and a half of ridicule, mismanagement, bunch of last places, lack of spirit and many defeats turned them off from the team. They were wiser: they warned me long time ago that Snyder wold never let go and he would never change his ways. They warned me ... and they told me clearly that they could not cheer for his team. As years past, and losses mounted, my game days were filled with frustration which was visible to them. I came to the realisation that me watching was not fair to them.

I now have enjoyed my weekends with other activities, family and friends. I am in much better moods and everybody is much better off for it.

So, for me it is very simple: I selected my own curse. I am a Washington Redskins fan. I will always be. But I will do everything in my power to ridicule and exhibit Daniel Snyeder for what he is: the worst owner of a professional team in the world of sports. He stole my team and ruined it. You will hear from me and many other true fans little Dan ... until hell freezes over.

Redskins are doomed to suck for the next 20 years at least ... as long as that cancer Dan Snyder is alive. Right now he installed an incompetent puppet Bruce Allen as GM -- Allen is totally clueless and is only there because he's friends with Snyder and allows Snyder a voice on decision making. Snyder hides behind Allen's skirt. Brucie is just a slightly better spoken version of Vinny Cerrato. This team has no idea how to evaluate talent ... so the drafts will continue to be a complete debacle and the free agent signings will continue to suck. I expect at least 20 more one-win to four-win seasons which will take us into 2035. After that maybe the NFL will expand into Northern Virginia with a new local NFL team that we can root for.

Until then I have a few other teams I can root for ... the Seattle Seahawks are great and I love they way they play and build their team. Plus Seattle is in Washington State ... so I am pretending they are the Washington Seahawks. Hail to the Seahawks, Hail Victory.

The Patriots are also wonderfully run. I love watching them play.

The Redskins are an embarrassment and basically play on the level of a bad high school team.

HogHeaven1983 wrote:Until then I have a few other teams I can root for ... the Seattle Seahawks are great and I love they way they play and build their team. Plus Seattle is in Washington State ... so I am pretending they are the Washington Seahawks. Hail to the Seahawks, Hail Victory.

I don't see how any self respecting Skins fan can support the Seahawks. Ask Trent Williams about it.

I'm fortunate, I moved out of Maryland in 1983 and while I have property in MD and a beach house in DE - I don't have to listen to the idiots on the radio and TV - I sold the 4 season tickets and I will 'follow' the Redskins but I also enjoy watching good NFL teams

people I know that are close to the Redskins tell me that at this time Dan Snyder does not plan to get away from managing things here

so - it really does not matter who the HC is or who the QB is or who the Redskins draft or who they bring in to be the DC ...

it's that simple - this franchise cannot get out of this mess with Dan Snyder continuing to be a part of the management here

so I will 'follow' the team but I'm certainly not letting the games interfere with being with my family and friends like it used too

I tape the games now and I don't miss the aggravation ...

I've been following the Skins for almost 60 years. If I could put up with George Preston Marshall (who did not even WANT to win), I can tolerate Snyder.

I'm in for the long haul. the past 20 years have been disappointing, whats a another couple bad years. I'll get pleasure watching individual players, like Breeland, develop.
What I don't like is the FO patronizing us, 'well we are rebuilding and its gonna take time' 'well, we've got this new system' yaddayaddayadda we've heard that for ages.

Yes, the GM makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE ... Redskins will always suck as long as Snyder and Allen are pulling the strings. Allen is Snyder's puppet. So this team has Snyder's grubby dirty sticky little midget fingers all over it.

If you can't properly evaluate talent and pick the right players in the draft or free agency. You are doomed. Bruce Allen knows nothing about football -- and Snyder even less. Makes perfect sense to me to put those two bozos in charge of picking players.

Let's not forget Mr Lay on the Ground for 10 minutes Hanesworth!!



How about paying Orakpo 10 million for nothing?

How about the great 2nd round pass catching class of Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, and Malcolm Kelly ?

Lets pass on Russell Wilson to draft that OL juggernaut Josh LeRibeus who hasnt been able to get on the field in 3 years.

Top pick in the 2013 draft is David Amerson, who appears to be the worst CB in the NFL.

Great Job Snyder/Allen!

The problem with the Redskins is Dan Snyder thinks he knows how to pick football players even though he never played football. So he hires puppet GM's that give him control.

How can you guys stand watching this trashy product?

Quite honestly it's amazing we EVER win.

HogHeaven1983 wrote:The problem with the Redskins is Dan Snyder thinks he knows how to pick football players even though he never played football. So he hires puppet GM's that give him control.

How can you guys stand watching this trashy product?

I thought you were leaving.

What will it take for me to follow the Skins....?

Interesting question for nerds who post to a skins board!!

I'll follow them regardless.

By the way, very few, maybe NONE, of the posters on this site thought tagging Orakpo was a bad idea early in 2014!! Certainly easy to criticize that move now...but there was no replacement in FA for him.

fredp45 wrote:By the way, very few, maybe NONE, of the posters on this site thought tagging Orakpo was a bad idea early in 2014!! Certainly easy to criticize that move now...but there was no replacement in FA for him.

Exactly. The only reason we didn't let him walk last year was that there was no replacement. We would have been foolish to just let him walk; the only way to deny that is to bring hindsight into the discussion, as (admittedly) fans seem to love doing.

Now we have Trent Murphy, who has already proven about as effective as Orakpo at disrupting plays. Bye bye, Rak.

In 1945, my father took me to meet someone he was doing some work for. That someone was Turk Edwards, the then Redskins head coach. He was extremely nice and gave me an autographed football which I still have. At that moment I became a Redskins fan for life. For me to follow them, all they have to do is show up.

aswas71788 wrote:In 1945, my father took me to meet someone he was doing some work for. That someone was Turk Edwards, the then Redskins head coach. He was extremely nice and gave me an autographed football which I still have. At that moment I became a Redskins fan for life. For me to follow them, all they have to do is show up.

As long as I have the internet, and DirecTV, I'm there.

Countertrey wrote:As long as I have the internet, and DirecTV, I'm there.

Call me "foolish", but what it will take for me to follow the Redskins next year: hearing this.

http://www.the-hogs.net/History/fightSong.php#

I can't begin to express my hatred for this organization. However, I smiled browsing this thread and seeing familiar faces.

4 easy installments of $75 to Directv.

Well lately I’m enjoying my Friday nights (coaching high school) and my Saturdays watching one of the best D3 teams in the country play. But I’ll always follow this team, lately it’s been like watching a train wreck, hard to turn away. I did go to three games this year, would have loved to have been a fly on the wall in Snyder’s Suite as 30K Cowboys fans chanted ” Let’s go Cowboys”