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Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:13 pm
by riggofan
Can't say I blame him.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... 5-starter/Kirk Cousins: I want to be traded if RG3 is named 2015 starterWashington quarterback Kirk Cousins doesn’t want to spend 2015 as the backup to Robert Griffin III.
Cousins told Dianna Marie Russini of NBC 4 in D.C. that he would like to be traded if Griffin is named the starting quarterback for next season.
In Cousins’s opinion, if there is no quarterback competition, there’s no point to being in Washington. Cousins wants to play, and he doesn’t want to spend a year on the bench. Cousins added that if Griffin is anointed the starter, he would approach the 2015 season as 16 games until free agency.
It’s easy to understand why Cousins would want to have a chance to compete for a starting job. Every NFL player wants to be able to compete. And it’s not like Griffin (or Colt McCoy) has done enough to be viewed as an incumbent starter who deserves to have the job handed to him.
But it’s also hard to picture much of a trade market emerging for Cousins. Although there’s been talk that the Browns might have some interest, given Cousins’s connection to Cleveland offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan from their time together in Washington, the reality is Cousins hasn’t played well when given the opportunity. Cousins has thrown more interceptions than touchdowns in his career, and of Cousins’s eight starts in the last two seasons, the only game Washington won was the game in which Cousins was benched and McCoy led the team to a comeback win.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:16 pm
by riggofan
https://twitter.com/NBCdianna/status/549609860103675904Cousins explained if there is no QB competition, there's no point. Although he would approach it as 16 games until free agency #Redskins
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:25 pm
by SkinsJock
Cousins needs to understand that he's 1 of 3 QBs that were a part of a 4 win season
Cousins should be so lucky that he even get's a shot at competing for a job as a QB
he should look at McCoy and Griffin and think that he can be a better QB than them
he should be motivated to become the starting job here because, let's face it, the starting QB job here is up for grabs
stop acting like a spoiled brat - get out there and make yourself better because, you're not even close to being a good NFL QB
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:43 pm
by OldSchool
I don't know if Cousins can become a successful starter in the NFL but I can certainly understand his desire to be traded if the Skins don't permit a competition for the starting QB job. He's obviously feels ready to take the next step despite a couple of disappointing games in 2014 and wants a chance. I don't know if it is smart to say it publicly but I certainly understand the feeling and in fact I think it shows spirit, good for Kirk I wish him well wherever he ends up.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:50 pm
by OldSchool
SkinsJock wrote:Cousins needs to understand that he's 1 of 3 QBs that were a part of a 4 win season
Cousins should be so lucky that he even get's a shot at competing for a job as a QB
he should look at McCoy and Griffin and think that he can be a better QB than them
he should be motivated to become the starting job here because, let's face it, the starting QB job here is up for grabs
stop acting like a spoiled brat - get out there and make yourself better because, you're not even close to being a good NFL QB
A spoiled brat? Cousins may not be starting QB material but a spoiled brat? This is rich coming from the most staunch defender of Griffin and all his behavior. I don't know if it makes sense to say it publicly but his position makes sense, open the job up to competition or let me go somewhere where I do get to compete. Neither Griffin, McCoy or Cousins have distinguished themselves but I believe every reasonable person would agree that Griffin doesn't deserve to start as a matter of course. Let Cousins go or let him compete for it.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:57 pm
by riggofan
Yeah I don't see anything bad about what he's saying. He wants a chance to compete for the job.
What I think is interesting is that he's not giving that "This is Robert's team" answer anymore.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:03 pm
by riggofan
OldSchool wrote:I don't know if Cousins can become a successful starter in the NFL but I can certainly understand his desire to be traded if the Skins don't permit a competition for the starting QB job. He's obviously feels ready to take the next step despite a couple of disappointing games in 2014 and wants a chance. I don't know if it is smart to say it publicly but I certainly understand the feeling and in fact I think it shows spirit, good for Kirk I wish him well wherever he ends up.
Honestly, if we're rolling with these three into 2015 again, I would definitely give him a fair shot to compete for the job. Nobody did anything this year to stake their claim on starting QB.
I think next year the QB evaluation is going to have to be about which one of those three can manage the game best, hurt the team the least. Cousins had the INT issues. Griffin had problems making reads and was really bad in the red zone and the final 20 yards of the field. Not really sure what to say about Colt. But it will be to the team's benefit to give those guys an opportunity to work hard, try to improve and really earn the job.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:46 pm
by EA7649
riggofan wrote:Yeah I don't see anything bad about what he's saying. He wants a chance to compete for the job.
What I think is interesting is that he's not giving that "This is Robert's team" answer anymore.
I hate to say this, but I'm so glad that Kirk had a chance to prove himself as a starter. No controversy Kirk should start not Robert! I remember OldSchool's hope for the playoffs if Kirk was the starter...
I say get a some sort of value from Kirk if McCoy or a veteran is signed. Kirk you had your CHANCES I don't know many coaches who would want you to start.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:47 pm
by EA7649
^ There might be a controversy, but no uncertainty with all 3 qbs getting a chance.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:55 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
I think its arrogant to assume Coach ISNT going to have a fair competition for all qbs... seeing how he yave all three their shot during the actual season.
Is he sad that he got shelved for pooor play for the third string?
That is reality. . And he needs to hone his skills before poppingnoff at the gums. IF he is traded... itll most likely be for a back ip role anyhow. Now his trade value drops another notch if im a gm looking for a suitable back-up.
As we saw this season a lot of backups get their chance to shine.
Im not impressed with his choice of words
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:03 pm
by Countertrey
There has been no hint that there would not be a competition for QB next year (can anyone imagine, with the performances of this line-up, designating ANYONE the starter in the off-season???), making this a bit of a pre-emptive extortion. I don't like it... neither will the Front Office. If this was on the advice of his agent, he was poorly counseled, because all he is going to do is annoy the "powers that be".
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:12 pm
by oj
This is how flood gates are opened up.
I can think of a few teams where Cousins could compete for a starting job, but players are looking for a better environment. The real message is players are dissatisfied, looking for a competitive organization. Do you think DJaxs' manager is testing the market? Kerrigans'? The FO had better respond in a very positive mannor, allay any lingering doubt to prove that the players' interests are paramount.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:16 pm
by Countertrey
oj wrote:This is how flood gates are opened up.
I can think of a few teams where Cousins could compete for a starting job, but players are looking for a better environment. The real message is players are dissatisfied, looking for a competitive organization. Do you think DJaxs' manager is testing the market? Kerrigans'? The FO had better respond in a very positive mannor, allay any lingering doubt to prove that the players' interests are paramount.
Your dog don't hunt.
Cousins wants to start... and will do what he feels gives him the best chance... This is no indicator of "team morale" or dissatisfaction with the organization, as you suggest. That's not to suggest it doesn't exist... but this has not one thing to do with that...
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:45 pm
by SKINS#1
Cousins has reason to be concerned if there will be open competition. If the coach is making the decision, then I think he will be treated fairly but if Snyder is making the decision, I'm not sure.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:45 pm
by PAPDOG67
Ship captain Kirk and the #5 for Cleveland's 2 first rounders. Done deal.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:47 pm
by oj
Countertrey wrote:oj wrote:This is how flood gates are opened up.
I can think of a few teams where Cousins could compete for a starting job, but players are looking for a better environment. The real message is players are dissatisfied, looking for a competitive organization. Do you think DJaxs' manager is testing the market? Kerrigans'? The FO had better respond in a very positive mannor, allay any lingering doubt to prove that the players' interests are paramount.
Your dog don't hunt.
Cousins wants to start... and will do what he feels gives him the best chance... This is no indicator of "team morale" or dissatisfaction with the organization, as you suggest. That's not to suggest it doesn't exist... but this has not one thing to do with that...
The dog has his nose to the ground and casting a little. He might not be hunting as yet, but he be testing the wind.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:33 pm
by SkinsJock
where is there any suggestion that there will not be a competition here for any and all positions, let alone the QB position
and
where is this idiot (Cousins) getting the idea that Griffin might be 'named' the starting QB here? last game I watched, Griffin was the starting QB and it did not seem to me that he exactly solidified his position but then again there are many here that claim to watch all the Redskins games and they obviously are not seeing the same game that I'm watching
I think that Snyder and Allen have told Gruden that he's the HC here and that Griffin is a part of the QB mix - given how the season ended, Gruden looked like he wanted to be fired and especially given his lack of effort
Gruen really does not want Griffin as his QB - he's royally screwed because that is who the stupid guys he works for want as their QB
some of you guys make me laugh - you have zero clue what is really going on with this franchise
Gruden needs to grow a pair and force these guys to bring in a real GM who can replace Snyder/Allen
that way the FO and HC can begin changing the way that Snyder & Allen manage this franchise and putting us on a path to success
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:06 pm
by SkinsJock
btw - the wimp, Cousins, has now clarified that all he wants is a chance to compete for the QB job ...
can you imagine this - apparently the 'reports' that he wanted to be traded were completely wrong
I mean, that really surprises me, that 'reports' about players and coaches of the Redskins could be at all misleading

Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:39 pm
by OldSchool
cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:I think its arrogant to assume Coach ISNT going to have a fair competition for all qbs... seeing how he yave all three their shot during the actual season.
Is he sad that he got shelved for pooor play for the third string?
That is reality. . And he needs to hone his skills before poppingnoff at the gums. IF he is traded... itll most likely be for a back ip role anyhow. Now his trade value drops another notch if im a gm looking for a suitable back-up.
As we saw this season a lot of backups get their chance to shine.
Im not impressed with his choice of words
Why should Cousins or anyone else assume there will be a QB competition in 2015? Since the Skins paid 3 first and 1 second round choice for Griffin he has always started when healthy enough to play and also when he wasn't healthy enough to play. I don't know if Cousins can perform well enough to start somewhere but he just informed the Skins that he's determined to find out so if you don't want to let him compete for the job in DC trade him and get some value or just watch him move on in 2016. I'm surprised he said but I agree with it if he feels he can get over the hump he might as encourage the team to trade him for whatever.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:08 am
by SkinsJock
Just to CLARIFY (this means to make it clear) for those twits that still think Cousins "wants a trade..."
got your heads out of your rear end, please ....
ASHBURN, Va. – Washington Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins said nothing has changed in his stance since last offseason. He wants a chance to compete for a starting job. What he hasn’t done is demand a trade.
Cousins said in a conversation with reporters Monday morning that it would be tough to return without a chance to compete. But he stopped short of demanding a trade. It’s only when a tweet went viral suggesting Cousins wanted to be traded if Robert Griffin III returned as a starter did Cousins feel the need to clarify his comments.
Cousins started five games this season and was benched after throwing nine interceptions (against 10 touchdowns). His passer rating of 86.4 was the worst among the three Redskins quarterbacks. But with none of the three separating themselves, including Colt McCoy, Cousins said he’d obviously like another chance to compete for the job.
“Perception is different than what reality is,” Cousins said. “I want to come out and say I have loved Washington. I’m happy here. If I’m the backup for my fourth year in Washington, then so be it.”
The Redskins drafted Cousins in the fourth round of the 2012 draft, three rounds after taking Griffin. Cousins is a free agent after next season.
Last offseason, Cousins first made it clear that he wanted a chance to compete for the starting job, whether in Washington or elsewhere. He also made it clear that he liked playing in Washington.
“I’m under contract and I’ll honor that contract if that’s what it comes to,” he said. “I’m focused on getting better. We all know I have a long ways to go. I have a lot of work to do. I had two awful quarters and threw nine interceptions, which is way too many. I have plenty to work on to get better.
“I’m excited to get back to work. I do think with another offseason in Jay’s system, I can take another step forward. That step forward needs to happen and if it does, I do like where I’m headed. That’s the message I want out, not anything about demanding anything. That’s not reality. The reality is for three years I’ve been a great teammate and representative of the Redskins and I want to continue to be that. I’m very happy to be here and content with being in the NFL and a member of the Redskins.”
let's get over ourselves shall we and discuss what's the real issue here ...
it does not matter if you bring in Brady or Russell Wilson to play QB - you have got to have an O line and if you think that Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen can help put one together here you're most likely living in Colorado or just plain ignorant - take your pick
we don't need players or for Kirk Cousins to become even better than Brady - we need to rebuild this whole franchise and in order for that to happen Dan Snyder has to get himself out of the personnel decisions and hire a real GM
WALE UP PEOPLE
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:29 am
by fabe
SkinsJock wrote:WALE UP PEOPLE
Yeah, you guys need to Wale up!

Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:56 am
by Prowl33
Ill take cousins over griffin for 2 reasons.
1) He can be more effective than Griffin in thr pocket, just less outside. If we do address the o line this year, cousins 2ill be more effective.
2) Even if 1 isnt true, captain kirk doesnt demand attention and divide the locker room and doesnt need to be forced to say the right things... we need the media spotlight to die down as much as possible. Thatll only happen with Griffin gone, and a smart off season of player acquisitions that favor the team rather than big names to sell jerseys.
Start cousins for the year, see what you got.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:08 am
by StorminMormon86
ENOUGH with this notion that Cousins "had his chance" to solidify his spot as the starter. Compare the amount of games he's started to Griffin...Cousins is done, but Griffin still needs more time? Give me a break. Cousins didn't "demand" anything. He wants a shot, that's it. Remember earlier this year when Gruden came in and anointed Griffin the starter before ever even meeting the players? He doesn't want that happening again.
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:32 am
by emoses14
Enough with this entire thread. Kirk has already said this "report" was bunk. Why in the world are we still debating anything relating to that (once again) erroneous report from the folks covering the redskins? At this point if it doesn't come from john keim or rich tandler, it's most likely not true enough to have a 4 page thread about.
Just sayin'
Re: Cousins Wants a Trade if RGIII is Starter
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:35 am
by riggofan
emoses14 wrote:Enough with this entire thread. Kirk has already said this "report" was bunk. Why in the world are we still debating anything relating to that (once again) erroneous report from the folks covering the redskins? At this point if it doesn't come from john keim or rich tandler, it's most likely not true enough to have a 4 page thread about.
Just sayin'
It wasn't "bunk" but it was definitely exaggerated. He wasn't "demanding" anything. That lady from NBC sure does a lot of this crap reporting though.