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Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:52 pm
by SkinsJock
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:56 pm
by riggofan
SMH.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:01 pm
by emoses14
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:10 pm
by riggofan
That's just amazing that he has had that same injury three times. WTF???
I assume this means we're going to see a lot more of Trent Murphy?
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:15 pm
by Kilmer72
riggofan wrote:That's just amazing that he has had that same injury three times. WTF???
I assume this means we're going to see a lot more of Trent Murphy?
Yeah and this may be a good thing. Just wished he hadn't got injured. I think that if Trent works out the rest of the year we can spend that 11 mil on 2 FA that can help, and preferred Oline first and Secondary second.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:22 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
Ya.. that sucks. His pecs arent robocop bionics yet??
it also probably spells the end of his time here in DC. Loved me some Sakpo but it is what it is- next man up!
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:25 pm
by riggofan
He took a big gamble with his contract and the franchise tag and all of that. I feel bad for him. I think the team would have signed him to a longer term contract at a more moderate price than he was asking.
Gotta give the team some credit for how they handled that too.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:28 pm
by PAPDOG67
Bye bye Rak. Its been real. You won't see him in a Redskin uniform again. Tough way to go out.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:29 pm
by tribeofjudah
HE is a broken down horse. He needs to go to the stud farm.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:14 pm
by EA7649
Have more money to spend elsewhere. Feel bad for him, because he won't get top dollar. But there could be some desperate teams out there.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:24 pm
by DarthMonk
EA7649 wrote:Have more money to spend elsewhere. Feel bad for him, because he won't get top dollar. But there could be some desperate teams out there.
He's made, I think, about $31 M as a Redskin. Should be sitting pretty.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:45 am
by FanofallthatisGibbs
RGIII is not so far away from the stud farm himself. Nothing scares me more than drafting players with a history of injuries. Everyone is allowed one injury - they happen. But when people have multiple injuries, it's just like the rain cloud is following them and there's too much invested to just hope they won't get hurt again.
I wish Orakpo the best. I was SO excited when we got him, but the injuries and his lack of development from a one-move hybrid DE/LB has just left him a bit flat. I look forward to seeing what Trent Murphy can do, though I don't expect him to ever have the type of bull rush Orakpo had.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:51 pm
by riggofan
I read somewhere yesterday maybe the team would consider bringing Rob Jackson back in. Anybody heard anything more on that?
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:09 pm
by DarthMonk
FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:I look forward to seeing what Trent Murphy can do, though I don't expect him to ever have the type of bull rush Orakpo had.
Me either. I'm expecting Murph's bull rush to be a better type than the one Rak had.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:16 pm
by Deadskins
DarthMonk wrote:FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:I look forward to seeing what Trent Murphy can do, though I don't expect him to ever have the type of bull rush Orakpo had.
Me either. I'm expecting Murph's bull rush to be a better type than the one Rak had.
Yeah, Orakpo didn't really have a bull rush. He was always a get around the end, speed rush kind of guy.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:31 pm
by DarthMonk
Deadskins wrote:DarthMonk wrote:FanofallthatisGibbs wrote:I look forward to seeing what Trent Murphy can do, though I don't expect him to ever have the type of bull rush Orakpo had.
Me either. I'm expecting Murph's bull rush to be a better type than the one Rak had.
Yeah, Orakpo didn't really have a bull rush. He was always a get around the end, speed rush kind of guy.
Murph has actually been seeing a lot of double teams when he's been in. They knew they could stop Rak with one guy.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:15 pm
by tribeofjudah
I think it's the LAST we see of RAK in the B&G......
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:18 pm
by DarthMonk
tribeofjudah wrote:I think it's the LAST we see of RAK in the B&G......
Me too.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:25 pm
by Kilmer72
I wonder if we will see Trent start at weak side?
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:11 pm
by StorminMormon86
Kilmer72 wrote:I wonder if we will see Trent start at weak side?
I think I heard Gruden himself say they were going to do some switching based off of matchups between Kerrigan and Trent.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:45 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
Ya rak was a one trick pony, whom blockers just hold with the outside arm to prevent him getting around the outside. He RARELY, if ever, used a spin to the inside to beat people; and I wouldnt call it a bull rush what he does like darth and dm have covered.
I think Murphy is a Kerrigan type of player. High motor with a lot of speed and power. . His country bred power should be fun to see more of. Not sure how he looks in coverage, but I doubt its much if any drop off from Rak. He is a rook and will have mistakes (offsides!) so his task will be to limit those- and make some plays where he can. Beating Raks .5 sacks through 7 weeks shouldnt be to difficult imho tho...
*Edited to fix, should actually make some sense now
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:43 pm
by Irn-Bru
DarthMonk wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:I think it's the LAST we see of RAK in the B&G......
Me too.
Seems to be the majority opinion (here and elsewhere).
I appreciate the years Orakpo gave us, but he didn't deserve a long-term contract this past offseason and he's done almost nothing since then to prove the team ought to bring him back. He received top dollar for a "prove it" deal and has just . . . meh.
The FO from several years ago would have already locked him in with a $55 million, five-season deal and then restructured and restructured and restructured over the next four seasons. It's good to feel a little confidence that we'll simply be spending that money elsewhere.
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:42 am
by DarthMonk
Irn-Bru wrote: - snip - The FO from several years ago would have already locked him in with a $55 million, five-season deal and then restructured and restructured and restructured over the next four seasons. - snip -
Yep. In fact, it likely would have been for even more money ... something completely insane like 5 and 70 with 25 guaranteed.
Whew!
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 8:44 am
by tribeofjudah
Winds of Change in DC (and I'm not talking bout the Redskins name..........lol)
Re: Orakpo on IR with torn pectoral
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:58 am
by riggofan
Irn-Bru wrote:DarthMonk wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:I think it's the LAST we see of RAK in the B&G......
Me too.
Seems to be the majority opinion (here and elsewhere).
I appreciate the years Orakpo gave us, but he didn't deserve a long-term contract this past offseason and he's done almost nothing since then to prove the team ought to bring him back. He received top dollar for a "prove it" deal and has just . . . meh.
The FO from several years ago would have already locked him in with a $55 million, five-season deal and then restructured and restructured and restructured over the next four seasons. It's good to feel a little confidence that we'll simply be spending that money elsewhere.
Well said. Doesn't make up for 15+ years of horrible FO moves, but you have to give Allen some credit for the approach with Orakpo.
I still think the team regards him as more than just "meh" though. It wouldn't surprise me if the offers aren't there for him in free agency, and he was back next year on a friendlier deal.