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Redskins TE Breakdown

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:32 am
by Skinsfan55
According to ESPN and Scouts Inc we have:

Brian Kozlowski rated 63
Walter Rasby rated 62

They are both in the 60-64 "Good Backup" range:
60-64: Good Backup
"This is a player who is really on the bubble and only starts because of a team's deficiency at the position. ... He lacks complete overall skills, and although he will battle, he will hinder his team's ability to play at a championship level if forced to be in the starting lineup consistently over a 16-game season. ... This player needs to be a solid contributor in the kicking game or show great versatility at his position to keep his roster spot. ... He is a player you don't mind having on your team, but you are always looking to upgrade."

They are also both over the age of 31 and don't have too many years left on them. That said here are the individual scouting reports:

Brian Kozlowski (6-3 250)- "Kozlowski, a reliable target in the short and intermediate passing game, has adequate quickness and catches the ball away from his frame. He has a good first step, understands blocking angles and almost always gets into ideal position. Plays with good leverage, drives his legs and never stops working. Has excellent upper-body strength, and controls his man with his hands. Plays with a mean streak, is physical and gets good initial pop. Can play tight end, fullback, H-back and, in a pinch, long snapper. Hasn't missed a regular-season game since 1996. A better blocker than receiver. Doesn't explode out of his cuts, and he has problems creating separation. Has lost a step with age, and he never had great speed. An ordinary athlete. Has problems adjusting to the ball. Won't win many jump balls. Lacks elusiveness, change-of-direction skills and a second gear. A marginal threat after the catch. Can't consistently adjust to the moving target at the second level. Kozlowski still can be a quality depth player."

Walter Rasby (6-3 252)- "Rasby is a technician who rarely makes mistakes, takes excellent angles to his blocks and almost always gets into good position. He plays with leverage and gets adequate initial pop at the point of attack. Catches the ball away from his frame and in stride, but he is a far better blocker than receiver. Clearly on the downside of his career. Not fast enough to stretch defenses, lacks the burst to get behind linebackers and is a non-factor vertically. Lacks athleticism. Has problems adjusting to the ball. Not much of a threat after the catch. Lack of bulk causes him problems in pass protection against effective bull rushers. Won't push the pile. Physical two-gap defensive ends can knock him back. Has problems adjusting to the moving target at the second level. Rasby is a quality reserve because he plays with excellent technique, makes few mistakes and is experienced, but he offers little as a receiver and is only a situational blocker."

I think these guys are nice roleplayers, but they just aren't starting quality! I really wanted Jed Weaver or someone else a little younger that Rasby and Kozlowski with potential for growth that Gibbs could build... hopefully we'll get that when we draft K2 :). If not, I wonder what the future holds for TE of the Redskins, any ideas?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:05 am
by Redskins1974
I don't think drafting K2 or any TE high in the first round is the answer. We need D. We can find quality TE's after the June 1st cuts, guarenteed. Plus, they aren't the only two TE's we have on our roster now. Bewteen training camp battles, free agents and maybe the emergence of one of the younger guys we allocated to NFL Europe and/or the practice squad will prove interesting this offseason. We have too many holes to fill on D to dictate a high pick on a TE, K2 included. You must remember we have some major weapons on offense already and as long as we can rotate some TE's in there that can block and catch a few balls here and there, we're golden.

My 2 cents...

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:15 am
by Skinsfan55
Why would you think that there will be plenty of TE's available after June 1st, but not some quality D-linemen? If anything there will be more defensive players available.

I think our saftey team is just fine, so I don't see a need for Sean Taylor whatsoever...

Defenseive linemen need time in the NFL to maximize their potential, we're trying to win now it appears.

A tight end can make an immediate impact on offense and not only provide his OWN numbers but help out the entire offense with blocking for the RB/QB and stretching the defense for the recievers and QB... Kellen Winslow Jr would make us a better football team than any other single player in the draft IMO

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:33 am
by Redskins1974
Not sold, Defense wins championships. We spent plenty last year on Offense and picked up more key additions this offseason. The D players we've picked up will bolster the D but we still need to plug some holes. I'll be happy with any route our coaching staff goes but IMO, we need a better D...

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:45 am
by floridaskinsfan
I don't think we need another TE either. Don't forget about Leonard Stephens in NFL Europe. Kozlowski is getting old but his rating is a little misleading
He has a good first step, understands blocking angles and almost always gets into ideal position. Plays with good leverage, drives his legs and never stops working. Has excellent upper-body strength, and controls his man with his hands. Plays with a mean streak, is physical and gets good initial pop. Can play tight end, fullback, H-back and, in a pinch, long snapper. Hasn't missed a regular-season game since 1996. A better blocker than receiver.


If he was an excellent receiving TE, his rating would be higher. We don't need an excellent catching TE. His strong points are what the coaching staff likes. Just don't pick him up as a fantasy TE. :)

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:31 pm
by Steve Spurrier III
Koz will play H-back, and frankly, I think he will be a better H-back than Bryan Johnson would have been. Neither of these guys are stars, but they will work well in Gibbs' system...

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:37 pm
by hailskins666
i think the staff is well aware of what they've got in these guys. as long as they can run / pass block, we're in good shape.

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:38 pm
by daddywatson
Hit the nail directly on the head there hailskin. In a Joe Gibbs system, as long as the TE can block well as the H back, and be an occasional receiver, the ball will move and the clock will run.

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:46 pm
by monk-e
how well does KWjr block?

Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:08 pm
by Brandon777
monk-e wrote:how well does KWjr block?
From what I've seen in scouting reports, his weakness is blocking. He's mainly a receiver type TE.