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I don't know why but I thought the Seahawks were 'favored' late this week - shows what I know

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... -on-sunday

despite the claims of some here, the Seahawks and the Broncos 'opened' as basically a pick-em game - after a couple of days, the Broncos edged in front as the favorite - earlier this week, because so many in the media were favoring the Seahawks, I thought the betting line/odds must have changed to the Seahawks

seems the Broncos are still the favorite

Go Broncos & Countertrey

SkinsJock wrote:I don't know why but I thought the Seahawks were 'favored' late this week - shows what I know

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... -on-sunday

despite the claims of some here, the Seahawks and the Broncos 'opened' as basically a pick-em game - after a couple of days, the Broncos edged in front as the favorite - earlier this week, because so many in the media were favoring the Seahawks, I thought the betting line/odds must have changed to the Seahawks

seems the Broncos are still the favorite

Go Broncos & Countertrey

Not to mention Yahoo!, The Sporting News, and USA Today.

I guess you couldn't hear the Internet screaming ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... --nfl.html :

Seahawks open as favorite, then point spread flips Denver's way as early money comes in on Broncos

http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/nfl/ ... odds-total :

Super Bowl point spread report – Seahawks open as favorites, but Broncos money flips line

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eag ... oncos.html :

Super Bowl 2014 betting line: Seattle Seahawks open as favorite, but line shifts quickly to Denver Broncos

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/01/super-b ... r-broncos/ :

Seattle Seahawks opened as slight favorites over Denver Broncos in Super Bowl XLVIII

Then there are these major casinos that posted before all your cherry picked sources (both of 'em, which are webites, not books).

These are the opening lines of every book I could find that posted an opening line before 9:59 PM on January 19th. No cherry picking whatsoever.

LVH LINE MOVEMENTS
Money Line Spread Total 1st Half 2nd Half
Date Time Fav Dog Fav Dog Over Under Fav Dog Fav Dog
01/19 9:51pm SEA-2 -110 DEN+2 -110 47.0 -110 47.0 -110

MIRAGE-MGM LINE MOVEMENTS
Money Line Spread Total 1st Half 2nd Half
Date Time Fav Dog Fav Dog Over Under Fav Dog Fav Dog
01/19 9:57pm SEA-1.5 -110 DEN+1.5 -110

SOUTHPOINT LINE MOVEMENTS
Money Line Spread Total 1st Half 2nd Half
Date Time Fav Dog Fav Dog Over Under Fav Dog Fav Dog
01/19 9:56pm SEA-1 -110 DEN+1 -110 47.5 -110 47.5 -110

STRATOSPHERE LINE MOVEMENTS
Money Line Spread Total 1st Half 2nd Half
Date Time Fav Dog Fav Dog Over Under Fav Dog Fav Dog
01/19 9:53pm SEAPK -110 SEAPK -110 47.5 -110 47.5 -110
01/19 9:58pm SEA-1 -110 DEN+1 -110 47.5 -110 47.5 -110

TREASURE ISLAND LINE MOVEMENTS
Money Line Spread Total 1st Half 2nd Half
Date Time Fav Dog Fav Dog Over Under Fav Dog Fav Dog
01/19 9:56pm SEA-1 -110 DEN+1 -110 48.0 -110 48.0 -110

VI CONSENSUS LINE MOVEMENTS
Money Line Spread Total 1st Half 2nd Half
Date Time Fav Dog Fav Dog Over Under Fav Dog Fav Dog
01/19 6:20pm SEAPK -110 SEAPK -110 47 -110 47 -110
01/19 9:55pm SEA-115 DEN-105 SEA-1 -110 DEN+1 -110 47.5 -110 47.5 -110

WILLIAM HILL LINE MOVEMENTS
Money Line Spread Total 1st Half 2nd Half
Date Time Fav Dog Fav Dog Over Under Fav Dog Fav Dog
01/19 9:53pm SEA-115 DEN-105 SEA-1 -110 DEN+1 -110 48.0 -110 48.0 -110

WYNN LINE MOVEMENTS
Money Line Spread Total 1st Half 2nd Half
Date Time Fav Dog Fav Dog Over Under Fav Dog Fav Dog
01/19 9:53pm SEA-1 -110 DEN+1 -110 48.5 -110 48.5 -110

Here's another tidbit. The Chief Line Originator is William Hill. This is where all the big casinos go for THE OPENING LINE.

“I can’t tell you who the winner’s going to be, but I can put a number out there for you, that might draw some two-way action and is somewhere in the ballpark.” said Nick Bogdanovich, the director of trading at William Hill U.S. “It’s what we do. We do it year in and year out, and you develop a feel for it.”

They know that square money is enthralled by favorites and falls hard for teams that have done a lot for them lately. The Broncos, for instance, not only covered against New England, but looked good doing it. It’s part of the reason Denver is currently the 2 ½-point favorite even though oddsmakers opened with the Seahawks — a team they believe is better — as a 2- to 2 ½-point favorite.

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Park it... you BOTH know who you are! Take it to Smack if you have a need to continue.

Broncos looking a bit nervous...










maybe it's just the munchies...

I'm finding it hard to be interested in this game. Feels like football began to get stale about a month ago. Pitchers and catchers report in about two weeks.

welch wrote:I'm finding it hard to be interested in this game. Feels like football began to get stale about a month ago. Pitchers and catchers report in about two weeks.

Well let me just say Redskins SuperBowl champs next year. We can have a team like Seattle just got to shore up the line and a good draft for defense. Congrats to Seattle. But its ours next year.

HEROHAMO wrote:Well let me just say Redskins SuperBowl champs next year. We can have a team like Seattle just got to shore up the line and a good draft for defense. Congrats to Seattle. But its ours next year.

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That was a boring a game as I have ever seen...

Countertrey wrote:That was a boring a game as I have ever seen...

Only one that was worse that I can remember was the giants ravens snooze fest back in 99(?).

Of course, had it been the Redskins, we would have all been glued to our sets.

Deadskins wrote:Of course, had it been the Redskins, we would have all been glued to our sets.

No doubt. I would have called in sick today.

This was a bigger beat down than Black Sunday.

Denver has done OK in SOME past superbowls... but they have also had the SNOT knocked out of them a couple of times... heh, heh, heh...

Countertrey wrote:Denver has done OK in SOME past superbowls... but they have also had the SNOT knocked out of them a couple of times... heh, heh, heh...

Yes. I wonder if Denver teams tend to be light and fast, and to play well in Denver. Have an advantage there, but the advantage falls when they are away from home. The Denver offensive line seemed to melt. Seattle defender looked bigger. That was true of SB 21 (second half, anyway), SB 22 (our favorite seocnd quarter, and SB 23.

I was really dissapointed in Denvers performance. My heart was pulling for Manning but all along I kind of knew the Hammer was coming down. I really thought Manning could at least put up a better fight.

I bet New England would of put up a better fight then Denver did. Its going back to the old days when the NFC simply dominated the SBs. Its an absolute dog fight in the NFC. Carolina, Green Bay, New Orleans, San Fran, Seattle, Atlanta when healthy and our Redskins should be hungry next year as well.

We are really going to need our defense to step up. Our power running game was very good when RG3 was healthy. It was good last year too. Just saying though with RG3 healthy its really something to deal with.

DarthMonk wrote:This was a bigger beat down than Black Sunday.

Black Sunday was not as big a beat down as the score suggested. Three huge plays led to 21 points. Other than those, the game was relatively close.

Deadskins wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:This was a bigger beat down than Black Sunday.

Black Sunday was not as big a beat down as the score suggested. Three huge plays led to 21 points. Other than those, the game was relatively close.

Yes ... making this beat down worse.

Huge catch by Ray Guy while we had a punt disaster.

Rocket screen.

The game was over before Marcus Allen's big run.