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Darrel Green said in tweets and interviews before last season that he would be willing to help coach the defensive backs.
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Green mentions that it takes two to tango. Meaning the Skins have not reached out to him.

While I have no clue what kind of coach he is. I do know he does have knowledge he could share to help out our team. I mean heck why ignore the man? He is one of our greats.

Looks like he wants a role choosing the players. But he did say his last choice would be to coach the secondary.

I think it would be at least worth a shot. He is one of the greatest DBs of all time.

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Green is one of the reasons I became a Skins fan as a young boy. (Hence the avatar) I love DG and would love to see him work in some area with the team.

The obvious place: let him start.

Green is probably better than any CB the Redskins now have. If he's "lost a step" he's probably two steps faster than the current bunch.

(Only mild overstatement.)

Hey Welch I think you may be right. Even though he has already played 20 seasons. I heard he still runs a 4.4 at his age. Amazing for a man his age. Hes actually probably still faster then all the DBs except Hall. No joke.

I seem to remember D.Green was quoted as saying that essentially the talent was adequate (though not good) and that subtleties like initial positioning and first step would make a big difference. Couldn't understand why the Coach didn't leap at the offer. He was one of the best ever at his position, he didn't seem to be concerned about getting a title or money, what would it hurt to have him mentor the youngsters?

I've got no problem with Green getting a job as a scout or a DB coach, but I don't know if Green would want to come in at that level. The only ex -skin that hasn't been coaching already that I would trust with any real responsibility is BMitch.

He has said that he would be interested in coming on and un-screwing the ST, but he would want a guarantee that he could bee out of there by six. I'm certain he would be a fantastic ST coach, But I don't think he wants to put the hours in that a coach has to.

skinsfan#33 wrote:I've got no problem with green getting a job as a about our a DB coach, but I don't know how grid for he would want to come in at. The only ex -skin that hasn't been coaching already that I would trust with any real responsibility is BMitch.

He had said that he would be interested in coming on and un-screwing the ST, but he would want a guarantee that he could bee out of there by six. I'm certain he would be a fantastic ST coach, But I don't think he wants to put the hours in that a coach has to.

I understand that auto correct often picks the wrong word, but you might want to peruse your posts after you submit them. Sometimes it's hard to figure out what you're trying to say. The part of the first sentence after the comma, for example.

Deadskins wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:I've got no problem with green getting a job as a about our a DB coach, but I don't know how grid for he would want to come in at. The only ex -skin that hasn't been coaching already that I would trust with any real responsibility is BMitch.

He had said that he would be interested in coming on and un-screwing the ST, but he would want a guarantee that he could bee out of there by six. I'm certain he would be a fantastic ST coach, But I don't think he wants to put the hours in that a coach has to.

I understand that auto correct often picks the wrong word, but you might want to peruse your posts after you submit them. Sometimes it's hard to figure out what you're trying to say. The part of the first sentence after the comma, for example.

I bet he's using Siri.

I doubt this would happen, but nothing would make me happier!

DarthMonk wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

skinsfan#33 wrote:I've got no problem with green getting a job as a about our a DB coach, but I don't know how grid for he would want to come in at. The only ex -skin that hasn't been coaching already that I would trust with any real responsibility is BMitch.

He had said that he would be interested in coming on and un-screwing the ST, but he would want a guarantee that he could bee out of there by six. I'm certain he would be a fantastic ST coach, But I don't think he wants to put the hours in that a coach has to.

I understand that auto correct often picks the wrong word, but you might want to peruse your posts after you submit them. Sometimes it's hard to figure out what you're trying to say. The part of the first sentence after the comma, for example.

I bet he's using Siri.

Nope, the Samsung version of Swype. I need to stop trusting it and actually start reading what it thinks i meant to say!

It won't happen and quite frankly it shouldn't, unless they hire him to be a FT DB coach. I'm not opposed to him coaching, or even coming in to talk. But I don't like the idea of him potentially undermining the teaching of the coach at that position. In addition, being a great player does NOT make you a great coach. So there's no way of knowing how effective he'd be unless he was in here full-time and 110% devoted to helping.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:It won't happen and quite frankly it shouldn't, unless they hire him to be a FT DB coach. I'm not opposed to him coaching, or even coming in to talk. But I don't like the idea of him potentially undermining the teaching of the coach at that position. In addition, being a great player does NOT make you a great coach. So there's no way of knowing how effective he'd be unless he was in here full-time and 110% devoted to helping.

I agree. And, although he was one of my favorite players, I was always a little put off by his reaction to Marty trying to coach him up. Like he was too good to learn anything. I'm not sure how good of a coach he'd be. Still, I'm sure he does have a lot he could pass on to younger players.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:It won't happen and quite frankly it shouldn't, unless they hire him to be a FT DB coach. I'm not opposed to him coaching, or even coming in to talk. But I don't like the idea of him potentially undermining the teaching of the coach at that position. In addition, being a great player does NOT make you a great coach. So there's no way of knowing how effective he'd be unless he was in here full-time and 110% devoted to helping.

This is true, but all things the same, he was tutoring D. Hall this year, and Hall was on fire.

Doesn't guarantee his future success in coaching, but worth a deeper look.

Green is my all time favorite Redskin so if it happens and goes bad, I'd end up wishing it never happened.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:But I don't like the idea of him potentially undermining the teaching of the coach at that position.

Wait, our DBs were coached ?!?!

A DB coach must be an expert in technique...

I truly don't know that DG has ever worried about technique...

langleyparkjoe wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:But I don't like the idea of him potentially undermining the teaching of the coach at that position.

Wait, our DBs were coached ?!?!

Our DB's were fine IMHO. Hall balled out. Amerson grew and showed why we drafted him. Biggers was decent when allowed to actually play his position and not FS. Merriweather did his thing. Reed was reliable and consistent as always. Rambo was what he was, a 5th round pick asked to do too much too soon.

The only person who REAAALLY struggled was Wilson.

Neo wrote:This is true, but all things the same, he was tutoring D. Hall this year, and Hall was on fire.

Doesn't guarantee his future success in coaching, but worth a deeper look.

Green is my all time favorite Redskin so if it happens and goes bad, I'd end up wishing it never happened.

Tutoring is fine. They can do that on their own time, or even after practice.

Countertrey wrote:A DB coach must be an expert in technique...

I truly don't know that DG has ever worried about technique...

Don't need technique when you can outrun anyone/everyone lol. I'm sure DG has a lot to teach in all seriousness, I just want it done through the proper channels.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:But I don't like the idea of him potentially undermining the teaching of the coach at that position.

Wait, our DBs were coached ?!?!

Our DB's were fine IMHO. Hall balled out. Amerson grew and showed why we drafted him. Biggers was decent when allowed to actually play his position and not FS. Merriweather did his thing. Reed was reliable and consistent as always. Rambo was what he was, a 5th round pick asked to do too much too soon.

The only person who REAAALLY struggled was Wilson.

Neo wrote:This is true, but all things the same, he was tutoring D. Hall this year, and Hall was on fire.

Doesn't guarantee his future success in coaching, but worth a deeper look.

Green is my all time favorite Redskin so if it happens and goes bad, I'd end up wishing it never happened.

Tutoring is fine. They can do that on their own time, or even after practice.

Countertrey wrote:A DB coach must be an expert in technique...

I truly don't know that DG has ever worried about technique...

Don't need technique when you can outrun anyone/everyone lol. I'm sure DG has a lot to teach in all seriousness, I just want it done through the proper channels.

My point, of course, is that you can't coach speed... and his speed meant he never had to master technique...
Being one of the greatest players in Redskins history is one thing... being a coach is quite another.

Speed and quickness is a skill which refined and polished. No one is born with 4.2 forty speed.
Trust me I have actually ran a 4.4 in my lifetime. Its starts all the way when you are in elementary. Those who eventually become the fastest are the ones playing tag, soccer, running around. Then when you hit high school you continue to keep on running and sprinting. Squatting, deadlifts, power cleans, sprints four times a week. College is when you can really kick up the training.

My point being it takes technique to be fast and quick. Now to be an elite cornerback you not only have to be fast, quick you also have to change direction very quickly. It takes technique alot of technique to do that well. Let alone be a Hall of Fame CB. If anyone knows technique its DG. Trust me you dont make it to the Hall of fame with talent alone. He earned all of his speed and technique. That is why I would love for him to show our players some of the hard work he put in. Share his workout routines. They can make all the difference in the world.

HEROHAMO wrote:Speed and quickness is a skill which refined and polished. No one is born with 4.2 forty speed.
Trust me I have actually ran a 4.4 in my lifetime. Its starts all the way when you are in elementary. Those who eventually become the fastest are the ones playing tag, soccer, running around. Then when you hit high school you continue to keep on running and sprinting. Squatting, deadlifts, power cleans, sprints four times a week. College is when you can really kick up the training.

My point being it takes technique to be fast and quick. Now to be an elite cornerback you not only have to be fast, quick you also have to change direction very quickly. It takes technique alot of technique to do that well. Let alone be a Hall of Fame CB. If anyone knows technique its DG. Trust me you dont make it to the Hall of fame with talent alone. He earned all of his speed and technique. That is why I would love for him to show our players some of the hard work he put in. Share his workout routines. They can make all the difference in the world.

He had all that and then some. What he wasn't was a zone guy. That doesn't mean he can't teach it though. There are many coaches out there that couldn't play at pro level. Only Marty tried to fit him in as a square peg in a round hole. The others let him be himself because he was that good.

We're going to disagree... DG had marginal technique, and relied on his speed when out of position, which happened more than you seem to remember... When you are as fast as he, you can do that. And, hamo... we both know that no one can exceed their physical ceiling... you have a built in top speed... and Green's was higher than everyone elses in the NFL... he worked hard enough... and had the God given gift... to keep it for nearly all of his career. Kilmer is right... the "other's let him be... he could do things nobody else could... unless you are an idiot, you don't mess with it. But, once again... what he did, you cannot teach. There are many HOF players who cannot coach... it's not a big deal... DG as a personal consultant... maybe... but I just don't know about a formal relationship with the team...

BTW... I'm ok with being wrong on this...

Ya I hear ya. DGs ceiling was higher then most any human. PLenty of Hall of famers who cant coach either.

At the very least I think he could get our players faster and quicker. Maybe push some buttons. Then again RG3 could take some players and workout in the off season too?

But ya Im thinking if DG could help get our players to at least get to their full potential speed wise that wouldnt be too bad.

We all want whats best for our team.

HEROHAMO wrote:Speed and quickness is a skill which refined and polished. No one is born with 4.2 forty speed.

I have to disagree, you are born with the ability to reach 4.2 speed. No amount of refinement or polishing will allow Hall, Wilson or Amerson to run a 4.2... Green was born with the ability to hit that mark and through his work ethic, he achieved it.

In addition, the fact that he's running similar speeds at 40+ goes to show that his ability is unique and innate to him.

Kilmer72 wrote:Only Marty tried to fit him in as a square peg in a round hole.

I don't think that's true. Marty tried to help him refine his technique, and Green took offense. He thought that undermined him in front of the younger players like Champ Bailey. It wasn't like Marty asked him to play a new position.

Deadskins wrote:

Kilmer72 wrote:Only Marty tried to fit him in as a square peg in a round hole.

I don't think that's true. Marty tried to help him refine his technique, and Green took offense. He thought that undermined him in front of the younger players like Champ Bailey. It wasn't like Marty asked him to play a new position.

My memories of this are a little cloudy, but I sort of remember feeling like Darrell Green stuck around a year or two too long.

riggofan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

Kilmer72 wrote:Only Marty tried to fit him in as a square peg in a round hole.

I don't think that's true. Marty tried to help him refine his technique, and Green took offense. He thought that undermined him in front of the younger players like Champ Bailey. It wasn't like Marty asked him to play a new position.

My memories of this are a little cloudy, but I sort of remember feeling like Darrell Green stuck around a year or two too long.

I had mostly blocked it out after Green was inducted into the HOF, but when I watched the "A Football Life" episode about Marty, it all came rushing back.