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Shanahan is a calculated, Machiavellian, micromanaging, demanding, autocratic football demagogue who came to Washington to make his case for enshrinement in Canton and establish his son as a future NFL head coach. This isn't some football rube who got to Washington and was shocked to suddenly find out that Snyder can be a difficult boss who gets too cozy with players. That Shanahan was somehow the one guy who didn't realize that Redskins Park tends to get tainted by a star culture is impossible to believe. He had to know what he was getting into. The reality is, Shanahan has had Snyder at arm's length far more than any of his predecessors. By Snyder's historical standards, this is as good as it gets.

"He knew what he was getting in to," said one NFL executive who has dealt with the Snyder/Shanahan regime with some frequency. "When you make $35 million, that's part of the hazard pay. If anything, it sounds like now, with it over, Shanahan is using Snyder's reputation against him, but we never got the sense he was dealing with a meddling, overbearing owner."

“But what we’re seeing right now, is the fact that he wanted to put Kirk Cousins in there, because he felt better suited that he was ready to go to run that type of offense that Kyle Shanahan is used to running. Now we know through the offseason with Robert and his rehab, and while that was televised each and every time he was out there on the field – which was shocking to me because, for a franchise in the NFL, when you have an injured player, you want that injured player to focus more on his rehab, not so much on the marketing ability of trying to promote the team.

“And that’s part of the problem that I had early on was, how can you have your franchise quarterback who’s coming off a knee injury out there at OTAs and mini-camps, with the rest of the injured players on the other side of the field where the healthy players are practicing, but we’re not hearing about the other offensive or defensive players who are practicing? We’re focusing on the injured players. And to me it was more or less, we’re gonna ride the wave of making the playoffs, and thinking that next year will be the same, and we’ll come out the block and dominate the NFC East.”

SkinsJock wrote:Nothing new here - everyone knows that most if not all of the 'reports' and 'story lines' are way overblown and mostly completely fabricated to try and get attention

and everyone knows that 'the blame' for anything and everything is complete - give me a name of a player, a coach, anyone connected in any way to the Redskins and one can find something

this mess is on everyone except of course the fans and the media

this is 'good' for everyone who enjoys pointing the finger and painting the all too familiar doom and gloom that is the Washington Redskins



I am VERY sure that things are NOT nearly as bad as many are making it out to be - and, it's going to be interesting watching things get better here …

bring it on

SkinsJock wrote:not sure what your point about McNabb is that is different than anything we've heard recently

help me out here …

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I can't agree. This is the same result we've had in the past, regardless of coach. Snyder intentionally, or unintentionally sets up every regime to fail. He's is the main reason for all of this.

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:not sure what your point about McNabb is that is different than anything we've heard recently - help me out here …

No point at all at least in the way you're asking. I was just pointing out what a brutal interview McNabb gave on the radio yesterday. If other people have suggested or guessed at similar things recently, McNabb really laid it all out there. I thought the interesting part of that interview was that four weeks ago, nobody was giving McNabb much credence. He sounded mostly like sour grapes. In light of recent events people may have to reconsider at least some of what he's claimed about Shanahan. I definitely did.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I can't agree. This is the same result we've had in the past, regardless of coach. Snyder intentionally, or unintentionally sets up every regime to fail. He's is the main reason for all of this.

The fissure between head coach and owner originated when Snyder surrendered a "king's ransom" for the opportunity to draft Griffin, Silver reported. Contrary to previous speculation, Snyder -- not Shanahan -- was the "impetus" behind the blockbuster trade.

markshark84 wrote:What I don't understand is why in DC when a Snyder - HC relationship goes sour it always must end with the blame game. It is what it is. Things didn't turn out the way it was anticipated. I wish MS and Danny boy would just work stuff out between themselves quietly and transition the role without all the media hoopla.

riggofan wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:I can't agree. This is the same result we've had in the past, regardless of coach. Snyder intentionally, or unintentionally sets up every regime to fail. He's is the main reason for all of this.

You could be right. I hope you're not.

Am I wrong or did I see "Snyder was the one who drafted RGIII" stories starting to float around today...? Oh yeah here they come!

The fissure between head coach and owner originated when Snyder surrendered a "king's ransom" for the opportunity to draft Griffin, Silver reported. Contrary to previous speculation, Snyder -- not Shanahan -- was the "impetus" behind the blockbuster trade.

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumo ... ref=sircrc

Colorado Skin Fan wrote:i've been a big Shanahan supporter all along until the last few weeks. I can't forgive his behavior during this debacle. The dude makes $7M a year. He's paid premium executive money to deliver a premium executive experience for the Washington Redskins, not himself. His me first, I'm always right, conniving behavior at the expense of our proud franchise is disgraceful. He's turned us into a joke again. "Robert needs all the reps he can get", now "wait a minute, I don't want him to get hurt so we'll shut a healthy QB down". If it's performance, say so, but don't spin it and then not leave open the possibility of him getting a few more reps. No shifts in receivers, the line, or anything else that is the problem purely indicates to me this is a vendetta, not a rationale personnel move. He's a 2-bit football coach trying to pose as an NFL executive and doing a poor job. Dan has his issues but what he's owed is $7M of performance and loyalty. He paid premium dollars for that when he hired the guy. He knew what he was getting into when he hired on but the shiny pot of gold was too big a lure to turn down. No respect any more for Shanahan's character.

StorminMormon86 wrote:Snyder wants to protect his investment, IMO. He knows what he gave up for him, so I get the feeling that he really was on board with this decision 100%.

Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder was informed of Coach Mike Shanahan’s plan to sit quarterback Robert Griffin III and did not raise an objection to it largely because he took the position that it was a coaching decision that should be made by Shanahan, according to several people familiar with the situation.