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Okay, so the OC is the coach's son, the DC is considered part of the problem... so who in the world would be the interim HC and who would fill the staff?

Raheem Morris is the only legitimate option as Interim HC IMO. Is there enough talent on the current staff to fill the other roles?

I think you weather the storm. Both Mike and Snyder will save face if they wait until after the season.

Absolutely no point in firing them now. With just three games left, you don't embarrass a well respected coach like Shanahan, which would make the owner look like a vindictive jerk to potential replacements.

RayNAustin wrote:Absolutely no point in firing them now. With just three games left, you don't embarrass a well respected coach like Shanahan, which would make the owner look like a vindictive jerk to potential replacements.

Embarrassing him would be forcing him to stay for the rest of the year, lol

RayNAustin wrote:Absolutely no point in firing them now. With just three games left, you don't embarrass a well respected coach like Shanahan, which would make the owner look like a vindictive jerk to potential replacements.

I think the owner already casts such an image. I think he had that image before Shanny & Son got there. Shanahan has made it worse for himself now, and getting the boot this evening wouldn't surprise me.

After today I'd be surprised if Shanny is here in the am... Kyle may get the option to stay hell maybe even be the interim hc, but has is prolly on his way out too. We need a lot of coaches, and the disgrace on all sides was clear as water today. No leadership. *sh$t* rolls downhill, and this management needs to be held accountable

CBS post game show said Baylors head football coach Art Briles is an option. And that he said his extension with Baylor isn't necessarily locked for him to leave. I'm sure he would like going to the NFL. But we have so many problems... (And I think the coaching staff might stay till end of the season.)

There is ZERO chance that we'd ever see Spurrier here again and he's be a lot better option than bringing in a college coach - ANY college coach

this is the NFL and it would be a HUGE mistake to go that route especially with a franchise that has an owner like we do

SkinsJock wrote:There is ZERO chance that we'd ever see Spurrier here again and he's be a lot better option than bringing in a college coach - ANY college coach

this is the NFL and it would be a HUGE mistake to go that route especially with a franchise that has an owner like we do

I tend to agree. Although Chip Kelly is doing okay. I think it would be most ideal to make the Baylor coach the offensive coordinator. But I doubt he would take that position. How about Gruden?

We have an owner that needs to stay off the field and away from the players - NO college coach is going to be able to 'control' Dan Snyder - NONE

hanburgerheel wrote:

RayNAustin wrote:Absolutely no point in firing them now. With just three games left, you don't embarrass a well respected coach like Shanahan, which would make the owner look like a vindictive jerk to potential replacements.

I think the owner already casts such an image. I think he had that image before Shanny & Son got there. Shanahan has made it worse for himself now, and getting the boot this evening wouldn't surprise me.

I don't think Snyder has an image like that ... I think he has a reputation for interfering too much but has rehabilitated that image with Allen and Shanahan running the team.

But the more I think about it ... and after listening to Shanahan's presser in which he made no effort at all to deny the "report" ... coupled with the desperately poor effort put out today by the team ... there could be immediate action, and I don't think firing Shanahan at this point would be viewed as knee-jerk reaction in light of this report looking like the truth rather than an embelished rumor.

Looks like there are big time problems here ... in the locker room ... with the leadership across the board, and no chance of putting out the fires. So, no .. it would come as no surprise to most, if there is a major shake up now.

There is no way that anyone with any sense would look at firing Mike at this time as anything BUT a knee jerk reaction by a jerk of an owner …

EA7649 wrote:CBS post game show said Baylors head football coach Art Briles is an option. And that he said his extension with Baylor isn't necessarily locked for him to leave. I'm sure he would like going to the NFL. But we have so many problems... (And I think the coaching staff might stay till end of the season.)

I don't see Briles leaving a Top 10 team in his home state where he just got a contract extension to walk in to the mess that is currently Washington. I don't think we should gamble with a college head coach, but I'd like to pull some coordinators that have experience coaching for and against spread option offenses.

SkinsJock wrote:There is no way that anyone with any sense would look at firing Mike at this time as anything BUT a knee jerk reaction by a jerk of an owner …

Um... I think you're absolutely wrong here. There's no way anyone with any sense would look at firing Mike as anything but the RIGHT thing to do. For any owner who cares about his product, the lack.of effort today was completely unacceptable, and someone needs to answer for it. Shannys presser reassured me that he doesn't care and has lost the players "buy in". If Snyder were going the knee jerk route it would have been vs niners or eagles.. or some other embarrassing moment. This game was disgraceful and the presser was the icing on the cake, especially with the rumor mill churning from last year. Today was a clear indication mike has long since checked out... And As the owner he is obligated to do something.. and fast.
Snyder is the owner, and that means the business he hires mangemnet to.manage said business.. Management is to set goals and achieve them or be held accountable. They in turn pass the goals set forth down the line. Firing the team is not an option, but blood needs to be shed. Shanny must have seen the writing on the wall, BUT hasn't done anything to avoid it. No action plan (fire Haz? St coach?), Had he been fired up, and pushing this team he might have a case- but honestly he hasn't showed any passion pretty much all year.
This is not on Danny boy...
And when he fires mike, its because mike gave up, not even because he didn't reach the goals he set forth. Dueces, I hate quitters!

SkinsJock wrote:There is no way that anyone with any sense would look at firing Mike at this time as anything BUT a knee jerk reaction by a jerk of an owner …

Well, most NFL prognosticators disagree with you, as most have said they would not be surprised at all if Shanahan isn't fired tomorrow .... and not one of them has suggested that it would be a knee-jerk reaction.

Of course, you've staunchly defended the Shanaclan regime, so no surprise you'd think that way. I, on the other hand wanted him fired after the Seattle game last year, and too bad that didn't happen ... we'd be a year ahead now, and the results couldn't have been much worse than we've seen happen this year with Mike and mini-me.

I think there's a good chance that Mike is not here next season … I'm OK with that

As most of you know, I am NOT a Shanahan fan and hope that BOTH are gone SOON, however …

letting Mike go at this time is something only a clueless owner would do - we shall see …

This 'situation' is completely different than what happened in Houston - McNair knows what he's doing - Snyder does not

this franchise needs continuity and Mike and Bruce have a plan

AGAIN - we have a better chance at success in 2015 if we stay the course with these guys …

SkinsJock wrote:I think there's a good chance that Mike is not here next season … I'm OK with that

As most of you know, I am NOT a Shanahan fan and hope that BOTH are gone SOON, however …

letting Mike go at this time is something only a clueless owner would do - we shall see …

This 'situation' is completely different than what happened in Houston - McNair knows what he's doing - Snyder does not

this franchise needs continuity and Mike and Bruce have a plan

AGAIN - we have a better chance at success in 2015 if we stay the course with these guys …

Shanahan has lost the team and needs to go. You can make up all of the excuses you want, but the evidence is clear. We suck and Shanahan does not have control of the locker room.

Cappster said: "Shanahan has lost the team and needs to go. You can make up all of the excuses you want, but the evidence is clear. We suck and Shanahan does not have control of the locker room."

I would add to that, "and Mike is done, he doesn't want to be here anymore. He, his son or his agent leaked the information before the game today about last year office cleaning. Put a fork in him, he's done."

SkinsJock wrote:I think there's a good chance that Mike is not here next season … I'm OK with that

As most of you know, I am NOT a Shanahan fan and hope that BOTH are gone SOON, however …

letting Mike go at this time is something only a clueless owner would do - we shall see …

This 'situation' is completely different than what happened in Houston - McNair knows what he's doing - Snyder does not

this franchise needs continuity andMike and Bruce have a plan

AGAIN - we have a better chance at success in 2015 if we stay the course with these guys …

Sorry Sj... I call bs.
McNair knows but Snyder doesn't? So we SHOULD fire our hc like Houston just did? U make no sense. The shannaplan was to quit last season.. instead hes quit midseason. Snyder may be a lot of things but he (and we) didn't deserve that. I hope papa Shanny never coaches in the NFL again.. Kyle doesn't disgust me nearly as bad but is be surprised if he stayed w out Mike.

Cappster wrote:Shanahan has lost the team and needs to go. You can make up all of the excuses you want, but the evidence is clear. We suck and Shanahan does not have control of the locker room.

Shanahan may have lost the team but ...

Snyder lost the confidence of all fans a long time ago.

Please Danny, help me:

Bring Vinny Cerrato back and I will lead the revolution to boicot any attendance and support for your racket.

I understand Snyder better than some posters here and I don't have a clue what makes him tic …

hopefully Snyder stays out of this and let's Mike and Bruce handle things - IF Mike wants out of here then we're better off if Bruce manages things …

I DO NOT WANT SNYDER INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYERS OR THE COACHES …

HE KNOWS NOTHING

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Cappster wrote:Shanahan has lost the team and needs to go. You can make up all of the excuses you want, but the evidence is clear. We suck and Shanahan does not have control of the locker room.

Shanahan may have lost the team but ...

Snyder lost the confidence of all fans a long time ago.

Please Danny, help me:

Bring Vinny Cerrato back and I will lead the revolution to boicot any attendance and support for your racket.

Sorry RIC but this isn't on Snyder.. protecting his investment in RGiii doesn't change anything. When he left a game w injury he checked on him? Who cares?! People get paid more then other players too... Guess what? That's how it goes. Shanny not coaching this team UP and winning games is not on Danny boy. I get we're all pist but he did exactly what we all wanted: hired a HC and gm to control the team and stay out of football choices. Now that that HC has given up and failed we can't still blame Snyder... He gave us what we asked for.

SkinsJock wrote:I understand Snyder better than some posters here and I don't have a clue what makes him tic …

hopefully Snyder stays out of this and let's Mike and Bruce handle things - IF Mike wants out of here then we're better off if Bruce manages things …

I DO NOT WANT SNYDER INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAYERS OR THE COACHES …

HE KNOWS NOTHING

If Shanny is here next Sunday, who is the idiot to blame then, Bruce?

I cannot understand WHY anyone with any sense wants Snyder to make any decisions here - SNYDER KNOWS NOTHING

IF IN FACT Mike wants to leave here then he should do that but that leaves Bruce to make the decisions NOT Snyder

Snyder will VERY QUICKLY put us in the hole again - SNYDER KNOWS NOTHING

ESPECIALLY - WHO SHOULD PLAY OR COACH THIS FRANCHISE

Personally, I'm looking forward to the future for the first time since last January.
I am now looking forward to the new possibilities. Shanahan is toast and has shown me nothing.