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Robert Griffin III told the Washington Times he believes he "needs to run more" to improve the Redskins' chances of winning, and coach Mike Shanahan has given him the green light.

Griffin's 77 rushing yards in Sunday night's loss to Dallas were more than he'd gained in Washington's first four games combined. "He’s got to be himself. Robert is Robert," Shanahan said. "We don’t ask quarterbacks to do anything in particular. We have a game plan going in. Whatever that game plan may be, we are hoping they execute it." Griffin still has accuracy issues to iron out, but the Redskins appear to be on the verge of an offensive breakthrough. The Redskins generated 433 yards against Dallas, but settled for four field-goal tries.

Oct 16 - 8:29 PM

Source: Washington Times

DarthMonk wrote:Robert Griffin III told the Washington Times he believes he "needs to run more" to improve the Redskins' chances of winning, and coach Mike Shanahan has given him the green light.

Griffin's 77 rushing yards in Sunday night's loss to Dallas were more than he'd gained in Washington's first four games combined. "He’s got to be himself. Robert is Robert," Shanahan said. "We don’t ask quarterbacks to do anything in particular. We have a game plan going in. Whatever that game plan may be, we are hoping they execute it." Griffin still has accuracy issues to iron out, but the Redskins appear to be on the verge of an offensive breakthrough. The Redskins generated 433 yards against Dallas, but settled for four field-goal tries.

Oct 16 - 8:29 PM

Source: Washington Times

Please Please Please

This is my super bowl. These Bears fans are talking so much junk right now.

Griffin should run its what he does best. He's not helping the team trying to learn how to be a pocket passer, might as well run and it will keep the rush at home some too if he starts to burn teams. Lets hope he remembers to slide and if he gets dinged he doesn't throw his coaches under the bus.

Run more = get hit more = .........right

Defenses have shown their willingness to hit him late and take the penalty.

I'd rather see him throw more scrambling in the backfield far away from the defense, but he's not the kind of player to just stay back there.

If coaches would focus more on getting the line working together for the remainder of the season, our running game will flourish and RG3 won't need to run...Morris will.

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:If coaches would focus more on getting the line working together for the remainder of the season, our running game will flourish and RG3 won't need to run...Morris will.

+1

I've said it last year, and I've said it this year. They key to winning games is giving Morris the rock. Griffin does not need to run more, Morris (and even Helu/Royster) need to. Morris was the main one responsible for our seven week win streak last year, IMO. Very underrated too.

StorminMormon86 wrote:

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:If coaches would focus more on getting the line working together for the remainder of the season, our running game will flourish and RG3 won't need to run...Morris will.

+1

I've said it last year, and I've said it this year. They key to winning games is giving Morris the rock. Griffin does not need to run more, Morris (and even Helu/Royster) need to. Morris was the main one responsible for our seven week win streak last year, IMO. Very underrated too.

Agree that fixing the line would be of great help to what ails our offense. To say the least.

The Bears have lost to some not great teams and have struggled to beat some marginal teams. I'm sure what we are but we should not fear the Bears. They are not the Monsters of the Midway. We need to go out and kick ass. We need to play D like we did against the Cowgirls and not F up on specials.

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:
I'd rather see him throw more scrambling in the backfield far away from the defense, but he's not the kind of player to just stay back there.

If coaches would focus more on getting the line working together for the remainder of the season, our running game will flourish and RG3 won't need to run...Morris will.

As far as your first statement --- I think this is easier said than done. If we set up a play designed to keep RGIII in a pocket and the pocket breaks down, most likely the only place he'll have to move is forward. He won't be able to run to the side and make the pass. If we design bootleg plays where he rolls to one side, it takes half the field away and becomes EXTREMELY easy to defend. And RGIII is just as likely to get hurt or a concussion scrambling in the backfield to make a pass over a controlled run.

RGIII is best playing the way he did in 2012 -- KS/MS just have to make it into more of a controlled chaios.

As far as second --- agree on improving the line. Litchensteiger has not played well this year in particular. Morris is a beast and is even playing well despite all odds against him.

StorminMormon86 wrote:

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:If coaches would focus more on getting the line working together for the remainder of the season, our running game will flourish and RG3 won't need to run...Morris will.

+1

I've said it last year, and I've said it this year. They key to winning games is giving Morris the rock. Griffin does not need to run more, Morris (and even Helu/Royster) need to. Morris was the main one responsible for our seven week win streak last year, IMO. Very underrated too.

I don't know man. I love Morris, but he didn't do that himself last year. Big holes opened up for him largely because defenses had to account for RGIII running. Look what happened these first couple games when they weren't as worried about that.

I'm sure the team would like nothing more than to give Morris the rock. But you can't keep giving him the rock and keep going three and out and keep putting our shaky defense on the field and keep getting behind in games. Its not that simple.

I obviously didn't mean to hand off to Morris the whole time, but we need a balanced approach with passing and running, and more running from Morris, less from Griffin.

Even in this thread...

it's deep in my head...

Dallas Sucks
Dallas Sucks
Dallas Sucks.

riggofan wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:If coaches would focus more on getting the line working together for the remainder of the season, our running game will flourish and RG3 won't need to run...Morris will.

+1

I've said it last year, and I've said it this year. They key to winning games is giving Morris the rock. Griffin does not need to run more, Morris (and even Helu/Royster) need to. Morris was the main one responsible for our seven week win streak last year, IMO. Very underrated too.

I don't know man. I love Morris, but he didn't do that himself last year. Big holes opened up for him largely because defenses had to account for RGIII running. Look what happened these first couple games when they weren't as worried about that.

I'm sure the team would like nothing more than to give Morris the rock. But you can't keep giving him the rock and keep going three and out and keep putting our shaky defense on the field and keep getting behind in games. Its not that simple.

I agree that Morris didn't do that all himself last year, but it was more because teams didn't want to blitz and were held more in cloud cover.

But 100% disagree with the remaining (to a degree). Morris rushed for >100 yards on 13 carries in week 2. Morris has a HIGHER ypc average this year compared to last by almost 1/2 a yard!!! He's just not getting the opportunities because of our lack of passing attack and we are ALWAYS losing. As far as going 3 and out ---- that has nothing to do with Morris and everything to do with our passing game.

markshark84 wrote:I agree that Morris didn't do that all himself last year, but it was more because teams didn't want to blitz and were held more in cloud cover.

gotcha. But freezing the defense like that was because of RGIII, wasn't it?

markshark84 wrote:But 100% disagree with the remaining (to a degree). Morris rushed for >100 yards on 13 carries in week 2. Morris has a HIGHER ypc average this year compared to last by almost 1/2 a yard!!! He's just not getting the opportunities because of our lack of passing attack and we are ALWAYS losing. As far as going 3 and out ---- that has nothing to do with Morris and everything to do with our passing game.

I guess we'd have to look at some actual series to see what happens. But I feel like we're seeing a lot of series like, Morris runs for 1 yd. Morris runs for 1 or 2 yds. Then we're in a 3d and long. So yeah, if we can't convert 3d and long I see how you're blaming the passing game, but doesn't Morris share some of that as well?

Let the man show that he can play QB like he did last year - he's not going to put himself in jeopardy - that's the way he plays and he's learned a lot from what happened

unleash the beast that is RG3 - let's get going again

StorminMormon86 wrote:

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:If coaches would focus more on getting the line working together for the remainder of the season, our running game will flourish and RG3 won't need to run...Morris will.

+1

I've said it last year, and I've said it this year. They key to winning games is giving Morris the rock. Griffin does not need to run more, Morris (and even Helu/Royster) need to. Morris was the main one responsible for our seven week win streak last year, IMO. Very underrated too.

+1

Couldn't agree more. I'd love to see a lot of Morris & Helu together in the back. Instead of RG3 doing a run read, he could take it from Morris & toss off to Helu in the other direction.

Well, at least that would work in Madden LOL

riggofan wrote:But freezing the defense like that was because of RGIII, wasn't it?

Earlier in the season, I would say yes. But look at after the Ravens game. Especially against Dallas. Griffin was gimpy, and was not a run threat like he was earlier in the season. But Morris stepped up (especially in the Dallas game) and carried the offense.

We will smash the Bears. RG3 finally hits his stride after doing extra reps of passing drills to fine tune his accuracy. RG3 also rushes for close to 100 yards and passes for 3 TDs. Alf goes off for 110 yards and a couple TDs.

Our defense harasses Jay Cutler all day and wins the battle up front vs the shaky Bears Oline.

We will beat the Bears at home. Confidence will be high.

Then after Peyton Manning has his emotional game at Indy. He will be emotionally spent and they have a letdown in Denver providing the perfect storm for a Skins win.

That will provide us momentum for the rest of the games. We later drop one to the niners and falcons. Or we could lose to the Chiefs and beat the Falcons.

Heck when we beat the Broncos. We might just run the table or just drop one.

So long as RG3 is working his tail off. And he has shown progress. So I have no reason to believe that we cant win these games.

HEROHAMO wrote:We will beat the Bears at home. Confidence will be high.

Then after Peyton Manning has his emotional game at Indy. He will be emotionally spent and they have a letdown in Denver providing the perfect storm for a Skins win.

That will provide us momentum for the rest of the games. We later drop one to the niners and falcons. Or we could lose to the Chiefs and beat the Falcons.

Heck when we beat the Broncos. We might just run the table or just drop one.

So long as RG3 is working his tail off. And he has shown progress. So I have no reason to believe that we cant win these games.

Man u mirror my thoughts exactly! F the bears f the donkeys and f sf! Atlanta is playing worse then us right now and KC is a fluke! Lmao 12-4 here. We. Go!

Let's hope Cutler regains his position as President of the DeAngelo Hall Fan Club and tosses him another four picks. Help the cause, Jay!

HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:If coaches would focus more on getting the line working together for the remainder of the season, our running game will flourish and RG3 won't need to run...Morris will.

I don't see that happening anytime soon our Offensive line coach is pathetic, and to top that off our starting Guards are terrible. Pretty hard to run the ball when you have only 1 true lineman that being Trent Williams. Montgomery is okay but the rest of them are garbage and wouldn't be starting or second string on any other NFL team. At this point they should be starting LeRibeus and Gettis. I hope Polumbus is gone next year.

Loyalty by Black Boo (Week 7)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySfq5urigtg&feature=youtu.be

chiefhog44 wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:Robert Griffin III told the Washington Times he believes he "needs to run more" to improve the Redskins' chances of winning, and coach Mike Shanahan has given him the green light.

Griffin's 77 rushing yards in Sunday night's loss to Dallas were more than he'd gained in Washington's first four games combined. "He’s got to be himself. Robert is Robert," Shanahan said. "We don’t ask quarterbacks to do anything in particular. We have a game plan going in. Whatever that game plan may be, we are hoping they execute it." Griffin still has accuracy issues to iron out, but the Redskins appear to be on the verge of an offensive breakthrough. The Redskins generated 433 yards against Dallas, but settled for four field-goal tries.

Oct 16 - 8:29 PM

Source: Washington Times

Please Please Please

This is my super bowl. These Bears fans are talking so much junk right now.

I'm with you chief I used to live in Illinois and always was(and still am here in Iowa) surrounded by Bears fans. There fans (most of them) are equivilant to Iggle fans.

I was at a Bears game back in the mid 90s and they were playin the Chargers and the chargers QB threw a check down to his back and big ol Byron Cox comes charging in and the poor umpire didn't see him and backed into his path and Cox just SMOKES the umpire and still made the tackle LOL

But anyways the umpire was out cold for about 5 mins and the fans cheered the whole time he was out and laughed when he was finally assisted off the field. During the rest of the game there was an inflatable referee blow up doll being bounced all the way around the stadium.

Fans also will just piss in corners and I've even seen piles of *sh$t*. It's not a fun place so glad you guys going to the game don't have to put up with their *sh$t* since we are home.

Kirwan commented on Robert and the run this past week on MTC. Said that in the 10 wins with Robert as a QB, he ran around 77 times. While in the losses he ran around 82. So running attempts were about the same. Kirwan indicated that there were other issues at play here WRT Redskins O, but did not elaborate more concerning Robert.

He did mention something else, however. He recalled how Gibbs 1 would basically throw the deep ball at least twice per quarter. Now, a 50% completion rate on those plays is darn good....but Gibbs would run them to force the D to be honest, and prevent loading the box with 8 players to stop the run.

Now, I have not seen us trying to go deep anywhere near as much as we did last season....and not sure why. We have Robinson, and while he has issues with holding on to the ball, and route running....he is our burner.

Not saying that this is the elixir for what ails us.....but just one of those things that could make a difference.

DarthMonk wrote:The Bears have lost to some not great teams and have struggled to beat some marginal teams. I'm sure what we are but we should not fear the Bears. They are not the Monsters of the Midway. We need to go out and kick ass. We need to play D like we did against the Cowgirls and not F up on specials.

So true.