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I am enjoying it ....hopefully this is how it is from now on if when he gets healthy.,....

It could be he is just out making more commercials. I did just see him wearing his Baylor jersey in that Heisman Legend commercial with Barry Sanders, Tim Brown and the rest of the Heisman winners. I am sure Adidas isn't finished or Subway....

whatever it is, keep it up

langleyparkjoe wrote:whatever it is, keep it up

Not sure I want that. I think his lack of media attention is more predicated on his poor showings so far, than anything else, and I want him to be getting Peyton Manning type scrutiny.

Deadskins wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:whatever it is, keep it up

Not sure I want that. I think his lack of media attention is more predicated on his poor showings so far, than anything else, and I want him to be getting Peyton Manning type scrutiny.

I'm with you man. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc; get that type of exposure because they're winners. Bring it on for RGIII. Let Adidas and Subway pay him big bucks so maybe he doesn't have to gouge us on his next contract!

riggofan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:whatever it is, keep it up

Not sure I want that. I think his lack of media attention is more predicated on his poor showings so far, than anything else, and I want him to be getting Peyton Manning type scrutiny.

I'm with you man. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc; get that type of exposure because they're winners. Bring it on for RGIII. Let Adidas and Subway pay him big bucks so maybe he doesn't have to gouge us on his next contract!

LOL pretty good angle you used in this post. I like!

riggofan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:whatever it is, keep it up

Not sure I want that. I think his lack of media attention is more predicated on his poor showings so far, than anything else, and I want him to be getting Peyton Manning type scrutiny.

I'm with you man. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc; get that type of exposure because they're winners. Bring it on for RGIII. Let Adidas and Subway pay him big bucks so maybe he doesn't have to gouge us on his next contract!

He'll get as much as he can. The players association and his colleagues would be mad if he didn't.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

riggofan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

langleyparkjoe wrote:whatever it is, keep it up

Not sure I want that. I think his lack of media attention is more predicated on his poor showings so far, than anything else, and I want him to be getting Peyton Manning type scrutiny.

I'm with you man. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc; get that type of exposure because they're winners. Bring it on for RGIII. Let Adidas and Subway pay him big bucks so maybe he doesn't have to gouge us on his next contract!

He'll get as much as he can. The players association and his colleagues would be mad if he didn't.

hah. Yeah I'm sure you're right about that. I still hope RGIII gets as much as he can out of endorsement deals. good for him!!!

I honestly could care less about the guy's endorsement deals. More power to him. But I think some of the criticism from the media has essentially been the fact that he claimed he was 100% healthy and that he wanted to play in the preseason, but it's been obvious all season that that's not the case.

StorminMormon86 wrote:I honestly could care less about the guy's endorsement deals. More power to him. But I think some of the criticism from the media has essentially been the fact that he claimed he was 100% healthy and that he wanted to play in the preseason, but it's been obvious all season that that's not the case.

Absolutely ON POINT!!

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:I honestly could care less about the guy's endorsement deals. More power to him. But I think some of the criticism from the media has essentially been the fact that he claimed he was 100% healthy and that he wanted to play in the preseason, but it's been obvious all season that that's not the case.

Absolutely ON POINT!!

How so? I think it's completely off point. If they had let him play in the preseason, we probably wouldn't be 1-3 right now. You can't say he's not 100% healthy. Everything that's been reported says that he is, and that it's really the mental part that's lacking. I have seen nothing to show that his knee is not physically fine. Now, whether or not he trusts it yet is another story.

Deadskins wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:I honestly could care less about the guy's endorsement deals. More power to him. But I think some of the criticism from the media has essentially been the fact that he claimed he was 100% healthy and that he wanted to play in the preseason, but it's been obvious all season that that's not the case.

Absolutely ON POINT!!

How so? I think it's completely off point. If they had let him play in the preseason, we probably wouldn't be 1-3 right now. You can't say he's not 100% healthy. Everything that's been reported says that he is, and that it's really the mental part that's lacking. I have seen nothing to show that his knee is not physically fine. Now, whether or not he trusts it yet is another story.

100% healthy would mean mentally and physically. He is not 100%. Now I'm not saying he won't get there, but he's not there yet.

Deadskins wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:I honestly could care less about the guy's endorsement deals. More power to him. But I think some of the criticism from the media has essentially been the fact that he claimed he was 100% healthy and that he wanted to play in the preseason, but it's been obvious all season that that's not the case.

Absolutely ON POINT!!

How so? I think it's completely off point. If they had let him play in the preseason, we probably wouldn't be 1-3 right now. You can't say he's not 100% healthy. Everything that's been reported says that he is, and that it's really the mental part that's lacking. I have seen nothing to show that his knee is not physically fine. Now, whether or not he trusts it yet is another story.

Now that ^^ is ABSOLUTELY on point ...

some guys just want to be negative - I believe that RG3 does not fully 'trust' the knee - the main thing seems to derive from his 'trusting' the knee and I feel that he's trying to do too much as well

RG3 will get it all together again soon - he's too good and Mike and Kyle will 'enable' him and utilize his great speed again

SkinsJock wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:I honestly could care less about the guy's endorsement deals. More power to him. But I think some of the criticism from the media has essentially been the fact that he claimed he was 100% healthy and that he wanted to play in the preseason, but it's been obvious all season that that's not the case.

Absolutely ON POINT!!

How so? I think it's completely off point. If they had let him play in the preseason, we probably wouldn't be 1-3 right now. You can't say he's not 100% healthy. Everything that's been reported says that he is, and that it's really the mental part that's lacking. I have seen nothing to show that his knee is not physically fine. Now, whether or not he trusts it yet is another story.

Now that ^^ is ABSOLUTELY on point ...

some guys just want to be negative - I believe that RG3 does not fully 'trust' the knee - the main thing seems to derive from his 'trusting' the knee and I feel that he's trying to do too much as well

RG3 will get it all together again soon - he's too good and Mike and Kyle will 'enable' him and utilize his great speed again

Look, just because someone states the painfully obvious (Griffin is NOT the player he was last year), does not mean they are being negative. As a matter of fact, I've stated over and over that he has plenty of time to improve and most likely will do so. He is nowhere near where he was last year. That does not mean I'm negative, just that I actually watch the games.

StorminMormon86 wrote:Look, just because someone states the painfully obvious (Griffin is NOT the player he was last year), does not mean they are being negative.

That's really NOT what you stated. You said he was obviously not 100% healthy.

I don't really know whether he is 100% healthy or not (and neither does anybody else here). But he's played in four regular season games now, so I do know he is obviously healthy enough to play.

riggofan wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:Look, just because someone states the painfully obvious (Griffin is NOT the player he was last year), does not mean they are being negative.

That's really NOT what you stated. You said he was obviously not 100% healthy.

I don't really know whether he is 100% healthy or not (and neither does anybody else here). But he's played in four regular season games now, so I do know he is obviously healthy enough to play.

Since when does being healthy enough to play mean your 100%? Look at last night as an example, Roddy White and his hamstring, he played but ISN'T 100% Now I don't know what type glue many on here sniff or what liquor they drink or what drug they are on, however common sense dictates that if your not running like you where, are consistently being caught by 300 pound lineman and are not accurate on many passes then that has ALOT more to do with "trust" in your knee. The painfully obvious reason is his knee isn't 100% he doesn't have the burst he did and the coaches are trying to turn him into a drop back passer using the "threat" of him running as a decoy. When in fact there is probably a 88% chance that he won't run and if he does he will be caught as he has been pretty much all season. Now this isn't to say he won't get back to what he was but this season anyone that wants to sit up here and argue that he is and HAS BEEN 100% I am going to tell you that you are crazy plain and certifiably crazy.

This will be the real test on Sunday night. After all it is Griffin's first regular season game right?

StorminMormon86 wrote:This will be the real test on Sunday night. After all it is Griffin's first regular season game right?

I do agree with this, I also want to see how many times Demarcus Ware catches RGIII or any other defensive lineman for that matter. Let's hope that he plays at the level he did last year and we take a share in first place. I am a uneasy feeling about this game and if we lose, it's going to be a very long and bad season.............

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

riggofan wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:Look, just because someone states the painfully obvious (Griffin is NOT the player he was last year), does not mean they are being negative.

That's really NOT what you stated. You said he was obviously not 100% healthy.

I don't really know whether he is 100% healthy or not (and neither does anybody else here). But he's played in four regular season games now, so I do know he is obviously healthy enough to play.

Since when does being healthy enough to play mean your 100%?

Please show me where I wrote that being healthy enough to play means a player is "100%". Seriously, you just wrote an entire paragraph idiot tirade about this. I want you to copy, paste, quote and bold where I wrote any such thing.

Oh wait, you can't. I just copied what I wrote and it looks like I said, I don't know if RGIII is 100% but he is healthy enough to play. End of story.

And you can call me whatever names you want. You CANNOT argue that RGIII is not healthy enough to play. You can argue that he isn't healthy enough to be EFFECTIVE. But you cannot say he was not healthy enough to PLAY. I have a DVR full of the past four games showing RGIII on the field PLAYING PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. And therefore you are indisputably WRONG.

riggofan wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

riggofan wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:Look, just because someone states the painfully obvious (Griffin is NOT the player he was last year), does not mean they are being negative.

That's really NOT what you stated. You said he was obviously not 100% healthy.

I don't really know whether he is 100% healthy or not (and neither does anybody else here). But he's played in four regular season games now, so I do know he is obviously healthy enough to play.

Since when does being healthy enough to play mean your 100%?

Please show me where I wrote that being healthy enough to play means a player is "100%". Seriously, you just wrote an entire paragraph idiot tirade about this. I want you to copy, paste, quote and bold where I wrote any such thing.

Oh wait, you can't. I just copied what I wrote and it looks like I said, I don't know if RGIII is 100% but he is healthy enough to play. End of story.

And you can call me whatever names you want. You CANNOT argue that RGIII is not healthy enough to play. You can argue that he isn't healthy enough to be EFFECTIVE. But you cannot say he was not healthy enough to PLAY. I have a DVR full of the past four games showing RGIII on the field PLAYING PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. And therefore you are indisputably WRONG.

Step back from the ledge dude. This wasn't specifically pointed towards you but was used to explain the difference in being injured and being hurt! It was also my intent to put this RGIII is 100% crap to rest. Wow go get a cup of coffee and take a few deep breaths........

DaSkinz Baby wrote:It was also my intent to put this RGIII is 100% crap to rest.

And yet you failed again. Nothing you wrote shows that he's not 100% healthy. You can argue all day that the brace, or his confidence in the knee is limiting his mobility, but there is absolutely no evidence that the knee is not fully healed. In fact, I'd say that all the evidence points to the knee being physically fine.

Deadskins wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:It was also my intent to put this RGIII is 100% crap to rest.

And yet you failed again. Nothing you wrote shows that he's not 100% healthy. You can argue all day that the brace, or his confidence in the knee is limiting his mobility, but there is absolutely no evidence that the knee is not fully healed. In fact, I'd say that all the evidence points to the knee being physically fine.

So him being caught by 300 pound lineman, the team not running the read option as it did last year are not GLARING SIGNS that his knee isn't 100% Okay your just one of them people that will continue to bust his head against a brick wall knowing it hurts.....

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:It was also my intent to put this RGIII is 100% crap to rest.

And yet you failed again. Nothing you wrote shows that he's not 100% healthy. You can argue all day that the brace, or his confidence in the knee is limiting his mobility, but there is absolutely no evidence that the knee is not fully healed. In fact, I'd say that all the evidence points to the knee being physically fine.

So him being caught by 300 pound lineman, the team not running the read option as it did last year are not GLARING SIGNS that his knee isn't 100% Okay your just one of them people that will continue to bust his head against a brick wall knowing it hurts.....

No, those events have more to do with rule changes (the defense can now hit the QB on read option plays), how defenses have adapted, and the play calls being made by KS, than with the health of Robert's knee. He was caught plenty last year too, you just didn't focus on it. Did you not see him run away from the Detroit defenders on his ~40 yard scramble where he fumbled at the end? Didn't you see him extend the play against the Raiders, where he passed to Helu? THOSE are glaring signs that his knee IS 100%. But I guess you're one of those people who will keep banging his head against a brick wall trying to convince yourself otherwise.

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:It was also my intent to put this RGIII is 100% crap to rest.

And yet you failed again. Nothing you wrote shows that he's not 100% healthy. You can argue all day that the brace, or his confidence in the knee is limiting his mobility, but there is absolutely no evidence that the knee is not fully healed. In fact, I'd say that all the evidence points to the knee being physically fine.

So him being caught by 300 pound lineman, the team not running the read option as it did last year are not GLARING SIGNS that his knee isn't 100% Okay your just one of them people that will continue to bust his head against a brick wall knowing it hurts.....

Not really. Have you watched the 49ers this year? You can say the same things about Colin Kaepernick.

riggofan wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

DaSkinz Baby wrote:It was also my intent to put this RGIII is 100% crap to rest.

And yet you failed again. Nothing you wrote shows that he's not 100% healthy. You can argue all day that the brace, or his confidence in the knee is limiting his mobility, but there is absolutely no evidence that the knee is not fully healed. In fact, I'd say that all the evidence points to the knee being physically fine.

So him being caught by 300 pound lineman, the team not running the read option as it did last year are not GLARING SIGNS that his knee isn't 100% Okay your just one of them people that will continue to bust his head against a brick wall knowing it hurts.....

Not really. Have you watched the 49ers this year? You can say the same things about Colin Kaepernick.

I actually don't think the 49ers read option was as vital or as good as ours. My main issue is RGIII getting caught by Connor Barwin, week 1 and the other defensive lineman that seemed so much faster as compared to him and last year. I guess it's going to take Demarcus Ware to blow him up before you all see he isn't as fast nor has the explosive jets he had last year, now don't get me wrong I wish I was wrong, but sorry everything I have seen shows me what I have said is correct, he even looks like he is struggling to get to the sidelines, isn't juking anyone out either, now I suppose that huge knee brace has a lot to do with it, but as I said there are less restrictive knee braces he could be wearing that provide support and would give him a better chance at taking off when needed, him still using that FrankensteinBrace is to me another sign and signal that his knee is MAYBE 75% if that. Again this is just my opinion my thought and when it all comes out in the end, cause it does I will be back on here telling you again that I was right, you all were wrong....