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After reading an article this morning in local papaer, looks like Rambo was benched.

Rookie free safety Bacarri Rambo did not play a single snap on defense against the Lions as the Redskins had Josh Wilson serve as a safety/cornerback. Shanahan was critical of Rambo, the sixth-round pick, when asked about the defensive alignment.

“When he gets his opportunities, he’s got to take advantage of it,” Shanahan said. “Whatever role you’re in, you better play 100 percent and make some plays. If he doesn’t play anything on defense, he better play well on special teams, and if you don’t play well on special teams and you’re not a starter on defense, you won’t be dressing.”

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Too bad Haslett can't be benched. I swear he is the worst DC in the league PERIOD....

I've said this in multiple threads, Haslett isn't the problem. Execution is the issue. Players have been in perfect position to make plays. Haslett can't make 5 guys tackle. Haslett can't make Kerrigan turn around and locate the football instead of the 6'8 TE scoring a TD. Haslett can't make Rambo not get juked out time and time again. My point is that a DC's job is to put players in position to make plays and he's done that. Keep in mind that at the end of last year on our 7 game run, a lot of it was because of the vast improvement by the defense. The offense never really had an issue putting up points but the defense couldn't get teams off the field. They did play a lot better but a handful of plays cost them dearly.

frankcal20 I really don't agree. I think that maybe if the players respected him and actually "wanted" to play for him then maybe there would be some merit. Seems to me a defensive coordinator not only puts people in a place to succeed they would also make sure the product that they are putting out on the field is fundamentally sound. I know missed tackles happen but not this extreme. I also think that the defense would be better suited if the coaches would run plays based upon the players positive attributes and not simply what the coach feels should be called. Leaving two rookies to fend for themselves isn't a good way to coach, speaking about Amerson and Rambo. Then you put Josh Wilson at Safety? Sorry even looking at him in the booth he looks confused and lost and his team is playing the exact way he looks IMHO......

frankcal20 wrote:I've said this in multiple threads, Haslett isn't the problem. Execution is the issue. Players have been in perfect position to make plays. Haslett can't make 5 guys tackle. Haslett can't make Kerrigan turn around and locate the football instead of the 6'8 TE scoring a TD. Haslett can't make Rambo not get juked out time and time again. My point is that a DC's job is to put players in position to make plays and he's done that. Keep in mind that at the end of last year on our 7 game run, a lot of it was because of the vast improvement by the defense. The offense never really had an issue putting up points but the defense couldn't get teams off the field. They did play a lot better but a handful of plays cost them dearly.

Agreed.

We do not have quality safeties. Missed tackles and assignments mostly by safeties have cost us BIG plays and points.

Rambo MAY be a long term project but as of now, I do not want him on the field at all.

Meriweather goes for big hits instead of securing tackles, it cost us too.

I am so frustrated with our safeties play that I am willing to bring Reed Doughty to the line up. I am sure Mara and his sidekick will not let us bring Tanard Jackson back for a while. These safety positions have been the spots where the NFL Cap penalty hurts the most.

Shanahan is a mediocre coach. He has been for a very long time. Since he won two Super Bowls ages ago with John Elway, he's been nothing special. That's not just me hating on him. It's a fact. He misses on as many player personnel decisions as he hits on. For every Albert Morris there is a John Beck. His people skills leave a lot to be desired and while I am not in the lockerrom or practice field, I question his ability to motivate players properly. If you're happy making the playoffs every other year or two but not advancing, then you probably like Shanahan. If you want a coach who is innovative, charismatic, can make mediocre players better and is secure enough to have a strong GM making the correct roster moves, then Shanny isn't your guy

DaSkinz Baby wrote:frankcal20 I really don't agree. I think that maybe if the players respected him and actually "wanted" to play for him then maybe there would be some merit.

How do you have any idea whether or not the players respect Haslett? Could these posts get any more ludicrous?

Personally I think the team is kind of doing Rambo a favor right now. He was really thrown into the fire the first two weeks. If he has what it takes to be a starter, he'll work his way back.

DaSkinz Baby wrote:Shanahan is a mediocre coach. He has been for a very long time. Since he won two Super Bowls ages ago with John Elway, he's been nothing special. That's not just me hating on him. It's a fact. He misses on as many player personnel decisions as he hits on. For every Albert Morris there is a John Beck. His people skills leave a lot to be desired and while I am not in the lockerrom or practice field, I question his ability to motivate players properly. If you're happy making the playoffs every other year or two but not advancing, then you probably like Shanahan. If you want a coach who is innovative, charismatic, can make mediocre players better and is secure enough to have a strong GM making the correct roster moves, then Shanny isn't your guy

Well played sir. Agree 100%

If you don't like the guy, say you don't like the guy. Plain and simple. The draft is a crap shoot. You investigate players. You look for guys who have the skill set to play at this level and more importantly have the drive to get better. The biggest factor is being able to predict the future and how a player wil respond after a few things: getting money, being a back up for probably the first time in their careers and probably the most uncontrollable aspect is injuries like Safety Thomas who was projected to be a starter.

Shannahan isn't the only talent evaluator on the team. He doesn't have the final say. That's Bruce Allen but Bruce does take all of the coaches recommendations.

Also, to say that Shanahan can't motivate, I think he did a great job of motivating this team last year before the win streak. If you don't remember, he basically said that the team wasn't that good and that they were going to start evaluating players for future roster positions. Basically saying the team was done and they were preparing for the offseason. Perfect timing for such a comment and I think that is what he's doing now with Rambo and even some of the other players.

Haslett is not the one missing tackles out there. It's poor execution of our D that's the problem, not Haslett. Thank God Rambo was benched. He lookes completely lost out there.

Shanahan does have Final Say it was a condition of him signing here.....

frankcal20 wrote:Also, to say that Shanahan can't motivate, I think he did a great job of motivating this team last year before the win streak. If you don't remember, he basically said that the team wasn't that good and that they were going to start evaluating players for future roster positions. Basically saying the team was done and they were preparing for the offseason. Perfect timing for such a comment and I think that is what he's doing now with Rambo and even some of the other players.

Yeah but that was last year when we were winning. Now we have lost a couple games, he's a terrible coach and RGIII isn't half the QB that Kirk Cousins is.

Ahhh..... and where is Philip Thomas?

Well, he hurt himself RIGHT OUT of football for this season.....

frankcal20 wrote:I've said this in multiple threads, Haslett isn't the problem. Execution is the issue. Players have been in perfect position to make plays. Haslett can't make 5 guys tackle. Haslett can't make Kerrigan turn around and locate the football instead of the 6'8 TE scoring a TD. Haslett can't make Rambo not get juked out time and time again. My point is that a DC's job is to put players in position to make plays and he's done that. Keep in mind that at the end of last year on our 7 game run, a lot of it was because of the vast improvement by the defense. The offense never really had an issue putting up points but the defense couldn't get teams off the field. They did play a lot better but a handful of plays cost them dearly.

Frank,
I agree that the biggest problems on D have been in order: execution, talent, and coaching. They are in that order, but throw a blanket over them because I would say all the problem areas are close to the same amount.

However, two weeks in a row (Orakpo last week and Cofield this week) players have questioned the play calling, saying that the plan going in is good, but they just don't adjust when the opposing offenses adjust. To me that is a coaching fault. So it isn't just fans that are questioning the coaching.

I have never seen so many players running wide open as they do against our secondary. I would say the missed tackles are 100% on the players, but when WR, TE, and RB run scott free through our secondary you have to question coaching. In fact I have so little faith in our secondary that I picked up Oakland's D Moore (whoever he is) for my fantasy team just for this coming week because he will be facing our horrendous secondary!

Who was supposed to be covering J. Bell on that one play where he picked up close to 40 yards when there was no one around him for 10 yards when he caught the pass?

DaSkinz Baby wrote:Shanahan is a mediocre coach. He has been for a very long time. Since he won two Super Bowls ages ago with John Elway, he's been nothing special. That's not just me hating on him. It's a fact. He misses on as many player personnel decisions as he hits on. For every Albert Morris there is a John Beck. His people skills leave a lot to be desired and while I am not in the lockerrom or practice field, I question his ability to motivate players properly. If you're happy making the playoffs every other year or two but not advancing, then you probably like Shanahan. If you want a coach who is innovative, charismatic, can make mediocre players better and is secure enough to have a strong GM making the correct roster moves, then Shanny isn't your guy

Your first sentence is the same tired, lazy, factually incorrect statement that so many lame fans use to justisfy the fact that they don't like the red lobster that it makes me SMH!

Then you totally lost me on the talent evaluation rant. WOW... so wrong.

Look every talent evaluator has hits or misses, but do you really think Rex or Beck were in Shanny's long term plans as a starter with the team. They were, in Spuriers words, cheep and available. WHo would you have taken? Gabbert (and not taken Kerrigan), Dalton (and not taken Kerrigan), Ponder (and not taken Kerrigan), or Kaepernack (and not taken Kerrigan)?

Sure Shanny has had some misses but he has hit on much more than he has missed!

Come on man, you're better than that!

I believe that call was zone D. Whoever was playing LB was too close to the line and the safety who I believe was Wilson was totally out of position and covered the wrong area. That's going to happen when you've got guys playing out of position.

skinsfan#33 wrote:

frankcal20 wrote:I've said this in multiple threads, Haslett isn't the problem. Execution is the issue. Players have been in perfect position to make plays. Haslett can't make 5 guys tackle. Haslett can't make Kerrigan turn around and locate the football instead of the 6'8 TE scoring a TD. Haslett can't make Rambo not get juked out time and time again. My point is that a DC's job is to put players in position to make plays and he's done that. Keep in mind that at the end of last year on our 7 game run, a lot of it was because of the vast improvement by the defense. The offense never really had an issue putting up points but the defense couldn't get teams off the field. They did play a lot better but a handful of plays cost them dearly.

Frank,
I agree that the biggest problems on D have been in order: execution, talent, and coaching. They are in that order, but throw a blanket over them because I would say all the problem areas are close to the same amount.

However, two weeks in a row (Orakpo last week and Cofield this week) players have questioned the play calling, saying that the plan going in is good, but they just don't adjust when the opposing offenses adjust. To me that is a coaching fault. So it isn't just fans that are questioning the coaching.

I have never seen so many players running wide open as they do against our secondary. I would say the missed tackles are 100% on the players, but when WR, TE, and RB run scott free through our secondary you have to question coaching. In fact I have so little faith in our secondary that I picked up Oakland's D Moore (whoever he is) for my fantasy team just for this coming week because he will be facing our horrendous secondary!

Who was supposed to be covering J. Bell on that one play where he picked up close to 40 yards when there was no one around him for 10 yards when he caught the pass?

As I have stated there is always some excuse that is given. Jom Haslett hasn't done what's required PERIOD. Look at his facial expressions while up in the booth. He is lost, overwhelmed. He probably moved upstairs cause the players have no faith in him. IMHO even if you spit shine a turd it stinks and is still a turd. Rookies, suspensions whatever a REAL DC would overcome and have his team execute. This team looks worse every weekend. Any team plays the us they look like World Beaters. Watch come Sunday McFadden will have a career day or if Pryor plays he will be AFC player of the week. Time to face facts the Haslett experiment was and is a total failure.

DaSkinz Baby wrote:Look at his facial expressions while up in the booth. He is lost, overwhelmed.

Pretty sure that's his everyday expression.

DaSkinz Baby wrote:For every Albert Morris there is a John Beck.

Who?

frankcal20 wrote:Shannahan isn't the only talent evaluator on the team. He doesn't have the final say. That's Bruce Allen but Bruce does take all of the coaches recommendations.

True. False. False.

Per Bruce on Sirius NFL radio, he would say he has the final say. Sorry if there's gonna be a riff but that came down at the Senior Bowl. Basically was said that it's a full team affair and that he's in charge of making the call to the guys at the draft. Take it for what it is but sounds like he has final say. In the end, they both have to come to an agreement on a player. Plain and simple.

I've always heard Allen is more of a contracts GM, but Shanny is the one picking out the players.

You may be right. Honestly I'm basing this off of an interview and stuff I've read but it's easy to get it all criss crossed. Really sounds like it's a team effort.

Haslett has had plenty of time here and has failed to even produce an average defense in his entire tenure. He is awful.