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Hi,

Consider this an outsider's opinion. I was a life-long Browns fan. After Modell sold them to Baltimore, I never watched another NFL game again. However, I recently moved to the DC area, and for some unknown reason, started watching Redskin games because they happened to be on my TV. I think there's something special about this Redskins team and they're real fun to watch.

I know I'll get sacked for saying it - but I'll say it nevertheless. You'd be fools not to trade RG3 and keep Pat White.

Nobody should put the future of their franchise on the double-reconstructed knee of any player. As great as RG3 may be now, he's only a short-term solution. He won't last more than 5 years in the NFL.

When I look at your team, I see an identity problem on offense. You've got zone-read QBs Griffin and White, and you've got pocket-passers Cousins and Grossman. You can pretend all you want how great it is to have differing styles, but is that really what you want? You want your starter to get hurt in week 14 and you get ready for the playoffs using a completely different system? I don't like those odds. You should want your 2nd string QB to use the same style as the 1st string QB.

What tandem combo is the better pick: Griffin and White, or Cousins and Grossman? Given Griffin's bad knees and White's inexperience and poor deep balls, you'd have to say it's Cousins and Grossman hands down. In fact, it's not even close. So, you're sitting here with Cousins looking like the next Tom Brady and you've got a double-reconstructed-knee in Griffin. Now, you tell me who you should build the program around. It's not even a question. Cousins has BIG TIME written all over him. And unlike RG3, he doesn't cause a distraction every time he opens his mouth. He's rather even keel and humble.

The QB rotation should be: 1) Cousins, 2) Grossman, and 3) Pat White. Cousins and Grossman use the same style. Not much has to change if Cousins misses a game here or there to recover from a minor injury. You keep White around because of two reasons: A) He'll help prepare you for teams using the zone-read, and B) maybe you can use him for a few situations throughout the year. Maybe a series or a few plays in a game where the zone-read would be desirable to move the chains or mess with the defense a little bit. But regardless, it's all about Cousins, and I think Grossman is the perfect compliment in that scenario.

RG3 - could have been a great one. A really great one! But sorry... that's life in the NFL. He's all flash and bravado now, but his days are sadly numbered. Fortunately for you guys, you somehow ended up with a real find in Cousins. He'll be a Super Bowl MVP one day. Mark my words.



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You're a few months too late. Football season is upon us, and the time for discussing nonsense scenarios was during the offseason.

Good try, though!

Oh, Bob's too fragile. No team would want to touch him. We would get more for good 'ole sexy McRexy. I'm afraid we have made our bed and are going to have to sleep in it. All the winning and explosive, exciting, productive offensive production is gonna be a bitter pill, but we fans will just have to grin and bear it.

Can't say I see where ur coming from one single bit @the OP

RG3 won't get injured like that again(hopefully)

& Cousins stays our backup thru his rookie contract

I do like Pat White tho.. he reminds me of Tebow w/ a twist of RG3.

burgngold4life wrote:Can't say I see where ur coming from one single bit @the OP

RG3 won't get injured like that again(hopefully)

& Cousins stays our backup thru his rookie contract

I do like Pat White tho.. he reminds me of Tebow w/ a twist of RG3.

+1

Thought for sure RG3 meant Rex before I clicked and read the post.

nonNFLer wrote:I was a life-long Browns fan.

And this where I stopped.

1. Worry about your 39 year old sophomore QB.
2. Kirk Cousins is better than Weeden.
3. See the GIF below.
4. It must really piss you off that Alfred Morris had a better year than Trent.
5. Speaking of injury... Is Trent going to be healthy this year? Prolly not.

I remember a poster who was a Browns fan, then wasn't. Then, was a fan of a team that no one could guess. Then, was a fan of no team at all. Maybe you know him.

Welcome to the site - NOT a good start though ...

We all understand that RG3 might not be able to play QB for 10+ years - a career ending injury can happen at any time to any NFL player ...

however

there is no way a franchise trades away a talented player and ESPECIALLY not a QB at the beginning of his career - NO WAY

also

you are completely off base in your estimation about the status of RG3's knee - you OBVIOUSLY have ZERO knowledge about recent knee surgeries by Dr Andrews & the use of stem cells




after reading the post again it is my opinion that you are actually hoping that something bad happens to RG3 - you are basically a troll `

we shall see

His QB is Weeden... Think about that. Seriously guys... They missed out on RG3 and drafted a rookie in his late 40's LMAO.

Deadskins wrote:I remember a poster who was a Browns fan, then wasn't. Then, was a fan of a team that no one could guess. Then, was a fan of no team at all. Maybe you know him.

Yep. He/she can't seem to stay away from the site.

Oh.... who is he really? LOL

Irn-Bru wrote:

Deadskins wrote:I remember a poster who was a Browns fan, then wasn't. Then, was a fan of a team that no one could guess. Then, was a fan of no team at all. Maybe you know him.

Yep. He/she can't seem to stay away from the site.

I know it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and smells like a duck, but can one person really be this uninspired by life to keep coming around with this inane comments/ideas? Really?

Also, I wonder what he meant to emphasize with the open italics ("[/i]"). Maybe that would have made his point about keeping the guy who's looked average, at best, against future grocery baggers and trading the franchise, maybe even hall of fame worthy talent, now, more salient?

Chris Luva Luva wrote:His QB is Weeden... Think about that. Seriously guys... They missed out on RG3 and drafted a rookie in his late 40's LMAO.

When you compare the drafts we each had that year, it is really sad. We got two quarterbacks who are better than their guy — not to mention one is a franchise player — and picked up a superior RB in the 6th round. The mismatch in value per pick is stunning.

emoses14 wrote:I know it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and smells like a duck, but can one person really be this uninspired by life to keep coming around with this inane comments/ideas? Really?

If I've learned one thing in hanging around this board for the last 10 years, it's that yes, yes they can.

Irn-Bru wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:His QB is Weeden... Think about that. Seriously guys... They missed out on RG3 and drafted a rookie in his late 40's LMAO.

When you compare the drafts we each had that year, it is really sad. We got two quarterbacks who are better than their guy — not to mention one is a franchise player — and picked up a superior RB in the 6th round. The mismatch in value per pick is stunning.

Poor Browns' fans.

What THN trolls think they do:



What they actually do:

Interesting. Lots of emotional, knee-jerk reactions, but nobody can explain why keeping Cousins and trading RG3 (while his stock is high) is such a bad idea.

It's simple logic: Cousins > RG3

Even if RG3 didn't have reconstructed knees, you could argue it's a close call between the two. But, the fact that he does, makes it a no-brainer.

In 5 years, RG3 won't be in the NFL. Cousins, by that time, might be going for his second Super Bowl ring. Who's jersey will he be wearing at that time?

BTW, love the Cleveland jokes. But sorry, I'm more of a Redskins fan now than a Browns fan. I couldn't even tell you the names of any Browns players or even the head coach.

nonNFLer wrote:BTW, love the Cleveland jokes. But sorry, I'm more of a Redskins fan now than a Browns fan..

No you're a Browns fan and you'll be spoken to as such. Anyone referring to you as anything other than a Browns fan will be corrected.

That being said...

Cousins > Weeden
RGIII > Weeden
Rex > Weeden
Morris > Richardson

How does it feel to have the Steelers completely falling apart but still finish last in your division?

Irn-Bru wrote:

emoses14 wrote:I know it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and smells like a duck, but can one person really be this uninspired by life to keep coming around with this inane comments/ideas? Really?

If I've learned one thing in hanging around this board for the last 10 years, it's that yes, yes they can.

Yeah, I see the rest of the similarities now.

"I'm being logical in the presentation of my illogical idea; no one else wants to play, choosing instead to amuse themselves by avoiding the 'point' I made to amuse myself."

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

nonNFLer wrote:BTW, love the Cleveland jokes. But sorry, I'm more of a Redskins fan now than a Browns fan..

No you're a Browns fan and you'll be spoken to as such. Anyone referring to you as anything other than a Browns fan will be corrected.

That being said...

Cousins > Weeden
RGIII > Weeden
Rex > Weeden
Morris > Richardson

How does it feel to have the Steelers completely falling apart but still finish last in your division?

Here, I'll make your day and actually respond to your intelligent, thought-provking input:

Oh goodness. You really got me. How will I continue with my day? How will I sleep tonight?

In all seriousness, this place is apparently where all the home-schooled kids come to burn off their sugar-high. You can delete my account and this thread. When Cousins is gone and RG3 goes limping off the field - let's hope there's a good plan in place.

Adios.

nonNFLer wrote:You can delete my account and this thread.

Why would I delete my source of amusement?

Meh...

nonNFLer wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

nonNFLer wrote:BTW, love the Cleveland jokes. But sorry, I'm more of a Redskins fan now than a Browns fan..

No you're a Browns fan and you'll be spoken to as such. Anyone referring to you as anything other than a Browns fan will be corrected.

That being said...

Cousins > Weeden
RGIII > Weeden
Rex > Weeden
Morris > Richardson

How does it feel to have the Steelers completely falling apart but still finish last in your division?

Here, I'll make your day and actually respond to your intelligent, thought-provking input:

Oh goodness. You really got me. How will I continue with my day? How will I sleep tonight?

In all seriousness, this place is apparently where all the home-schooled kids come to burn off their sugar-high. You can delete my account and this thread. When Cousins is gone and RG3 goes limping off the field - let's hope there's a good plan in place.
Adios.

Bu-bye,
Don't let the Lombardi trophies horsecollar you on the way back to the bridge.

- you've got to get a grip ...

NO Redskins fan is going to advocate trading away Robert Griffin III - actually nobody with any sense would think of doing that ...

EXCEPT maybe a very disgruntled/pissed-off Cleveland Browns fan ...

it really must make you mad that we ended up with RG3 when everyone knew that the Browns could have offered a better package but were just a little late in doing it ...