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A little respect for the old ball coach
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 5:49 am
by Uncle Buck
"Faced with the choice of firing most of his staff or firing himself, Spurrier chose to fire himself.
He didn't play any games with Redskins owner Dan Snyder. Spurrier didn't try to squeeze some of the remaining $15 million that was on his contract from an owner who spends millions the way most of us spend single dollar bills.
How many other coaches in similar circumstances would have responded that way?"
http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Sa ... 5855935462
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 7:24 am
by Magoo
Thanks for posting the link.
IMO - Spurrier was the quintessential Redskin's bust. Spurrier, Heath, and Desmond can all take the podium in bustville victory lane - and Spurrier came home P1 in that race.
He came in. Plopped his playbook on the table. Turned the Defense over to somebody other than himself. And went golfing.
He even hired former players so it would be less work teaching his comic book thin playbook to his squad. After year one, he bailed on his Florida Posse - too slow - and brought in a Posse of speed burners. You see, he wasn't doing a bad job, his players were just too darn slow, so instead of adjusting his coaching style or game-planning habits, he brought in players fast enough to go deep and get open on every play.
After week six it was obvious that his scheme wasn't going to work without constant, weekly and in-game adjustments.
He's no football moron. He simply wasn't willing to bleed hours and lose his life to the film room. He wasn't willing to identify the weakest link in an enemies defense and exploit it. And when his game plan failed, he was unable to change mid-game in order to stage a comeback.
Bottom line - if he'd done a better job coaching, his assitants wouldn't have been in danger of being fired in the first place.
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:26 am
by vze4s6xm
IMO - Spurrier was the quintessential Redskin's bust. Spurrier, Heath, and Desmond can all take the podium in bustville victory lane - and Spurrier came home P1 in that race.
Although there are several others that could be added to this list, this is classic!
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 10:01 am
by JPFair
Nothing that Spurrier did in the end should warrant any "respect". If anything, it should garner contempt. Spending five minutes with his players at the end of the last game before heading off to play some golf in Florida is about as cowardice as it gets. Spurrier should not be considered loyal for choosing himself to resign as opposed to firing his staff. He should be considered pig headed individual who was defeated by the modern NFL and chose to run away instead of try to improve and conquer it.
Having said that, I'd give the guy a big ol' wet sloppy kiss just for leaving the Skins and allowing a master to come in and coach.
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 12:40 pm
by 1niksder
I think Steve did a great job... if you don't count the last two years.

Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:36 pm
by njskinsfan
To Boss Hog:
As part of the new rules we all should be banned from speaking about the following coaches or face suspension.
1) Spurrier
2) Pardee
3) Pettibone (only his head coach year)
4) Shottenheimer
Not necessarily in that order
Gibbs is back and the nightmare is over.
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:24 pm
by welch
OK, there was nothing that Spurrier gave the Redskins that counts as much as his leaving. Agreed, he could have hung on and collected the money, and that was a lot of money, but perhaps professional humiliation finished him.
I don't think I've seen a worse coach in the NFL. And that includes Ditka's second go-round, when he un-retired to coach the Saints, or Buddy Ryan, or Jerry Glanville.
(In Redskin-land, I think that Mike Nixon (who????) had a worse record, but he coached only about a year, and that was about 45 years ago. Different universe.)
By the way, I think Pardee was a decent coach (not a Gibbs, but pretty good) who maintained the George Allen tradition while rebuilding. He and Beathard collected quite a few of the players who became Gibbs-core guys, like Monk, Coleman, Olkiewicz (sp?). Record was 8-8, 10-6, and 6-10. The final year was the season that Riggins sat out, and Mark Mosely missed a couple of last-second would-be-winners. It's interesting to compare the feeling in DC that year ("deplorable", said Jack Kent Cooke) to the feeling in the Turner-Marty-Spurrier years, when 6-10 would have grand achievement for Norve or Spurrier.
Pettibon? I didn't live in DC then, and I've never heard anyone explain what really went wrong. Might be a topic question.
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 6:02 pm
by gibbsfan
i guess my way of looking into the spurrier deal is that yes he quit and yes he did walk away from alot of money. but with that being said he never showed any signs of change to his gameplan.now for norv turner ,the longest tenure as skins coach never really established himself as a put your foot down and say this is whats gonna happen and it will happen head coach.very solid offensive cordinator.now for marty just like the gibbs first year starting 0-5 the going on to finish 8-8 his first year.his problem was that of dan synder,they could not get along real well to my understanding. thats not to mention terry robiskie,s name either. richie petibones (sp)problem was he had some bigtime shoes to fill and he wasn,t given a fair chance in my book to allow what he was going to put in to work.jack pardee wasn,t a bad coach at all just things happen he can,t control. now joe gibbs the man who made it happen the first time and is certainly more than capable in making it happen all over again.but like he said in his press conference this is a new beginning i,m starting over but i said during that conference ,you maybe starting over but in time redskins football will be back and right now i would say it is.
joe gibbs is a mastermind motivator as well as a damn good gameplanner (ingame and before a game).he will go after every teams weaknesses and exploit them were as spurrier could not.then again didn,t really want to.joe gibbs made his living in his office slept in his office and still even today he said he will back off a little but i said yeah right this is joe gibbs not steve spurrier.
great college mind got to give some credit on his willingness to see what his new challenge would hold for him as it turned out it ended up with him walking away from a very high profile job to go play golf. for me i,m just glad to see that joe gibbs is back in the franchise he loves so much and doing what he does best and thats coaching motivating his players to be apart of his very own gameplan for success.so his drive to be successful like before has already begun. steve happy golfing and maybe sometime soon you will get another chance ,that being a college coach not a pro coach.
sorry guys didn,t mean for it to be this long.
i typed with my heart not my fingers.
