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Redskins release DeAngelo Hall
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:37 pm
by Irn-Bru
Some on this board might saddened by this news, but I am not. Thanks for your help, Hall, and best of luck wherever you go next.
Now, let's see what the Shanaplan is for CB.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/foo ... gelo-hall/
The Redskins have released cornerback DeAngelo Hall, a person with knowledge said.
Due to count $8 million against the cap, Hall was expected to either be released or have his contract restructured.
Washington was $3 million over the salary cap last week because of the $18 million penalty they had to absorb this year and are expected to make more roster moves.
Hall had been willing to restructure his deal, but Washington opted instead to release him and clear $8 million off its books for 2013.
Update, 1:30 p.m.
Hall confirmed the release when reached by phone Monday afternoon. He said that Coach Mike Shanahan called him and told him that the team had hoped to keep him, but because of their situation caused by the $18 million salary cap hit they must absorb this year (the second part of a $36 million penalty leveled last year by the league for how Washington structured contracts in the uncapped 2010 season), they had to release him.
“I understand the business side of things,” Hall said. “I thanked him for the opportunity and wished them luck. Mike said he really felt bad because I had done everything they asked. Kept getting better, kept working hard, kept leading. So he really felt bad. I told him I understand the business side of things. I just wish it had happened sooner than later. But it came down the wire. But Mike did reach out to me.”
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:40 pm
by frankcal20
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:40 pm
by UK Skins Fan
Only played up to his salary (or at least halfway towards it) down the stretch last year. Despite what he may think, he's not a leader, and is a luxury that we can't afford right now.
Thanks for your efforts #23. It's been, erm, mediocre.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:26 pm
by Irn-Bru
When it's a legit news development and there's a story to go with it, it is best to have a new thread.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:27 pm
by frankcal20
Irn-Bru wrote:When it's a legit news development and there's a story to go with it, it is best to have a new thread.
You're the boss :D
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:57 pm
by gay4pacman
dont be suprised if he tests the market and comes back at a reduced cost. i could see him coming back
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:58 pm
by fetus
Well can't say I am sad but I sure hope we have someone in mind to take his spot, So starters are Wilson and Griffin... Im not upset about that
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:35 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
gay4pacman wrote:dont be suprised if he tests the market and comes back at a reduced cost. i could see him coming back
I hope so.. people forget games that he shuts down the other teams number one receiver, or picks off Cutler 5 times, and only remember him getting burned over the top because the safety is out of position....
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:38 pm
by cowboykillerzRGiii
fetus wrote:Well can't say I am sad but I sure hope we have someone in mind to take his spot, So starters are Wilson and Griffin... Im not upset about that
Chase Minnifield will be in the chase I think.. if his drive hasn't diminished any- he should be in top form and hungrier then most any 2nd year player
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:59 pm
by Bee_Skins_Fan
Irn-Bru wrote:When it's a legit news development and there's a story to go with it, it is best to have a new thread.
Thanks for giving this it's own thread, otherwise, i wouldn't have seen it. For $8M, it is definitely worthy of a thread!
This helps explain some of the re-worked contract news from the weekend, but maybe not all of it.
I guess this also rules out a chance to get any cap space back- Bummer!
I wish him well. He does have a knack for making a big play, but his coverage skills definitely dropped off.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:08 pm
by The Hogster
This was the right move for the team, but this does create another hole in the secondary. This draft will be crucial. I'm optimistic though. The draft is deep with corners and safeties this year.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:19 pm
by HTTRRG3ALMO
The Hogster wrote:This was the right move for the team, but this does create another hole in the secondary. This draft will be crucial. I'm optimistic though. The draft is deep with corners and safeties this year.
My thoughts exactly. I'd like to see up pick up a really good RT & (in a perfect world), an upgrade for Hankerson.
Only reason why that's my wish list is because I feel that the draft is completely saturated w/ quality talent for our secondary needs.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:38 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:gay4pacman wrote:dont be suprised if he tests the market and comes back at a reduced cost. i could see him coming back
I hope so.. people forget games that he shuts down the other teams number one receiver, or picks off Cutler 5 times, and only remember him getting burned over the top because the safety is out of position....
Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:32 pm
by SkinsJock
Fixing our pass defense is one thing - cutting Hall is another
Hall was cut because of his salary - he could be back and he could be a help here
Haslett did a hell of a job with the players he had - having 2 great CBs would NOT have made any difference last season
we do need better players for our secondary but we also need for the front 7 to do a better job too
getting the players back and getting players to pressure the QB is JUST AS important to 'fixing' our secondary - IF NOT MORE
Re: Redskins release DeAngelo Hall
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:40 pm
by SkinsJock
Irn-Bru wrote:Some on this board might saddened by this news, but I am not. Thanks for your help, Hall, and best of luck wherever you go next.
Now, let's see what the Shanaplan is for CB.
I think they had to make this move
IMO the Shanaplan for fixing the secondary includes getting back the defensive players who were injured and working with Haslett to ensure we can pressure the QB without having to blitz PLUS add to the secondary
'adding to the secondary' means VERY little if we apply ZERO pressure on the QB like we saw last season
adding a great CB does NOT fix our pass defense if we cannot pressure the QB
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:26 pm
by HTTRRG3ALMO
SkinsJock wrote:Fixing our pass defense is one thing - cutting Hall is another
Hall was cut because of his salary - he could be back and he could be a help here
Haslett did a @#!*% of a job with the players he had - having 2 great CBs would NOT have made any difference last season
we do need better players for our secondary but we also need for the front 7 to do a better job too
getting the players back and getting players to pressure the QB is JUST AS important to 'fixing' our secondary - IF NOT MORE
This sums it up for me. It was a salary decision more than anything. Its not like DHall is the great CB we'll ever get.
I think he did great when he wanted to, but its not asking for too much to desire a CB to do great day in and day out...those are the hard ones to find (Darryl Green anyone?).
All that said, DHall is replaceable, and I'm not quite convinced yet that other teams are knocking down the door to pick him up. I still feel there's a good chance he'll be back asking for much less (once he tests the open market).
As another Hog on this site mentioned, "minimum wage in the NFL is a lot better than minimum wage flipping burgers" (paraphrased).
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:44 am
by Chris Luva Luva
HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:As another Hog on this site mentioned, "minimum wage in the NFL is a lot better than minimum wage flipping burgers" (paraphrased).
Anyone who settles for less than their worth is an idiot. I'm sure there are people who would look at my salary and would say that I could get by making $20k less... But I don't and I won't settle for anything less than what my skillset brings to the table. It's easy to tell another person what they should make.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:58 am
by RayNAustin
There is no doubt that the outrageous cap penalty imposed on the Redskins made this move unavoidable ... Hall's cap impact was significant, and his release was the only logical decision to be made. However, while some here downplay Hall's talent and contribution as expendable, he was still the best play maker / ball hawk in our secondary, which needs more of that, not less.
I'd really like to see Hall brought back and transitioned to free safety where I think he could excel, and where the Redskins are the weakest. Our safety positions are the weakest link in this defense, and a ball hawk center fielder would really solve a lot of those big play issues which have plagued the team.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:52 am
by markshark84
This was 100% a cap move. Although he was the best player in our secondary (which isn't saying much at all), Hall just wasn't worth his salary. It was a good move.
At this point, however, our FO needs to draft a whole bunch of secondary players or sign a couple. We literally need 3-4 new additions to our secondary. I hate FA, but feel there are no other options right now. We can't count on Merriweather or Tanard as they have been off the field for quite some time now.
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Hall tests the market, realizes his value, and signs with us at a much discounted rate.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:59 am
by frankcal20
Tenard's contract expires today so he's not going to count and I don't think they'll bring him back considering the risk of another slip up, he's gone. I think we can find a guy similar in skill set at a lower price and more dependable.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:19 am
by SCSkinsFan
Chase Minnifield will be in the chase I think.. if his drive hasn't diminished any- he should be in top form and hungrier then most any 2nd year player[/quote]
Thanks for the reminder. I think a lot of folks had forgotten about Frank's kid being there waiting in the wings. This could have made the decision to release Hall a lot easier. I think he is highly thought of and may have even been set to make the squad last year before his injury. He's had time to recover and hopefully will be in shape to step up and grab one of the CB slots this season.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:33 am
by 1niksder
frankcal20 wrote:Tenard's contract expires today so he's not going to count and I don't think they'll bring him back considering the risk of another slip up, he's gone. I think we can find a guy similar in skill set at a lower price and more dependable.
Jackson's contract rolled over to the 2013 season... and he makes the vet min. He can't be re-instated until Aug. so he has no cap impact until then. He is under contract with the Washington Redskins.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:20 pm
by HTTRRG3ALMO
Chris Luva Luva wrote:HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:As another Hog on this site mentioned, "minimum wage in the NFL is a lot better than minimum wage flipping burgers" (paraphrased).
Anyone who settles for less than their worth is an idiot. I'm sure there are people who would look at my salary and would say that I could get by making $20k less... But I don't and I won't settle for anything less than what my skillset brings to the table. It's easy to tell another person what they should make.
Right but if no other team picks him up...
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:23 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:As another Hog on this site mentioned, "minimum wage in the NFL is a lot better than minimum wage flipping burgers" (paraphrased).
Anyone who settles for less than their worth is an idiot. I'm sure there are people who would look at my salary and would say that I could get by making $20k less... But I don't and I won't settle for anything less than what my skillset brings to the table. It's easy to tell another person what they should make.
Right but if no other team picks him up...
Then you have to be smart about the reality of the situation.
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:19 pm
by Irn-Bru
Chris Luva Luva wrote:HTTRRG3ALMO wrote:As another Hog on this site mentioned, "minimum wage in the NFL is a lot better than minimum wage flipping burgers" (paraphrased).
Anyone who settles for less than their worth is an idiot. I'm sure there are people who would look at my salary and would say that I could get by making $20k less... But I don't and I won't settle for anything less than what my skillset brings to the table. It's easy to tell another person what they should make.
Sure but the question is whether anyone will pay him more money than we will. I doubt Hall is going to secure an 8-figure contract at this point in his career. Sure he might not be vet. minimum material, but he might not be too far from it, either.
And I'm talking about what he brings to the table, not what he "should" make.
