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Get RG3 a weapon that can replace Moss and save us cap.

Ummm... We need DB help. Receivers are a luxury we won't likely look at, unless one happens to be BPA in the right circumstance.

Meriweather should be good to go plus if tanard gets back plus the kid fro IOWA and doughty and Gomes we'll be good just cut Madeiu Williams

Plus Moss is still solid. He can definitely play for another year.

Though our receiving core hasn't been performing "perfectly", I'd rather us improve on preventing the other team from scoring as much this year.

We were putting up points pretty well last year.

I'm all about getting another top quality receiver, but realistically, we're probably not going to upgrade there till next year.

we'll see...

I was reading an article on the Redskins receivers. Probably CSN or Realredskins. ANyway, per the article, the Redskins receiers did better than most f the teasm with a #1 hotshot receivers. Our receiving corps is just fine. We need defensive help more than anything.

Gibbs4Life wrote:Meriweather should be good to go plus if tanard gets back plus the kid fro IOWA and doughty and Gomes we'll be good just cut Madeiu Williams

My fear is that you are serious. This is pro football, not Madden.

Merriweather lost virtually his entire season on two hits... if he returns to form, he was certainly showing signs of beasthood... but not reliable. We have no CB who can cover in man for any time.

And, the "kid" from Iowa... you don't even know his name, but you expect him to be a performer. Seriously. Bernstein may be that sleeper, but we already know that our D secondary was pathetic.

Gomes is now going into his 3rd year of second chances...

Jackson... no guarantee that the league will even let him play.

No. We need to find RELIABLE DB's. Our receivers are fine. And, fortunately, our FO is past the point of running the team like it's a personal fantasy team.

Countertrey wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:Meriweather should be good to go plus if tanard gets back plus the kid fro IOWA and doughty and Gomes we'll be good just cut Madeiu Williams

My fear is that you are serious. This is pro football, not Madden.

Merriweather lost virtually his entire season on two hits... if he returns to form, he was certainly showing signs of beasthood... but not reliable. We have no CB who can cover in man for any time.

And, the "kid" from Iowa... you don't even know his name, but you expect him to be a performer. Seriously. Bernstein may be that sleeper, but we already know that our D secondary was pathetic.

Gomes is now going into his 3rd year of second chances...

Jackson... no guarantee that the league will even let him play.

No. We need to find RELIABLE DB's. Our receivers are fine. And, fortunately, our FO is past the point of running the team like it's a personal fantasy team.

+1
Bernstine tore 3 knee ligaments. I'm not expecting much from him this tear if ever.
Jackson, at best, can join the team at the end of August. He will be way behind.

yupchagee wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:Meriweather should be good to go plus if tanard gets back plus the kid fro IOWA and doughty and Gomes we'll be good just cut Madeiu Williams

My fear is that you are serious. This is pro football, not Madden.

Merriweather lost virtually his entire season on two hits... if he returns to form, he was certainly showing signs of beasthood... but not reliable. We have no CB who can cover in man for any time.

And, the "kid" from Iowa... you don't even know his name, but you expect him to be a performer. Seriously. Bernstein may be that sleeper, but we already know that our D secondary was pathetic.

Gomes is now going into his 3rd year of second chances...

Jackson... no guarantee that the league will even let him play.

No. We need to find RELIABLE DB's. Our receivers are fine. And, fortunately, our FO is past the point of running the team like it's a personal fantasy team.

+1
Bernstine tore 3 knee ligaments. I'm not expecting much from him this tear if ever.
Jackson, at best, can join the team at the end of August. He will be way behind.

That's so disappointing and frustrating. I was very hopeful of Bernstine & Meriweather.

Countertrey wrote:Merriweather lost virtually his entire season on two hits... if he returns to form, he was certainly showing signs of beasthood... but not reliable.

Fair enough... But let's alter your post, just for fun.

CLL EDITED Countertrey wrote:RGIII... if he returns to form, he was certainly showing signs of beasthood... but not reliable.

CLL EDITED Countertrey wrote:Orakpo... if he returns to form, he was certainly showing signs of beasthood... but not reliable.

CLL EDITED Countertrey wrote:Helu... if he returns to form, he was certainly showing signs of beasthood... but not reliable.

CLL EDITED Countertrey wrote:Fred Davis... if he returns to form, he was certainly showing signs of beasthood... but not reliable.

The same can be said of any player... 1 or two hits can change the entire season/career. I understand your pessimism, and it's warranted to a degree. But considering our cap situation, I think you must bring him back. BUT!! BUT!!! You draft a contingency plan at a higher spot.

I was high on Tanard returning (for cap reasons) until we learned he won't be back until Aug. We have Doughty, who I rag on a lot but he's a good backup at SS. We'd still have Gomes. FS is the worst position, I'd address that first.

... and if frogs had wings, they wouldn't bump their asses.

Your exercise entirely misses the point... G4L is advocating WR... despite the FACT that our d secondary was among the most unreliable in the league. The receivers on this team are adequate... the DB's, based upon performance, are NOT.

Beyond that, every player you listed in your "hypotheticals" has demonstrated his worth to the franchise. Merriweather... has NOT.

Countertrey wrote:Beyond that, every player you listed in your "hypotheticals" has demonstrated his worth to the franchise. Merriweather... has NOT.

Sure he did. Only it was for just one half of one game.

Gibbs4Life wrote:Meriweather should be good to go plus if tanard gets back plus the kid fro IOWA and doughty and Gomes we'll be good just cut Madeiu Williams

Are you serious?

Did you learn nothing from last year?

I honestly hope this is a tongue and cheek statement.

I'm all in for a top heavy defensive draft starting with DB's. We need fresh young talent back there, particularly at safety.

I watched every Baylor game and if TWill falls that far to us it's pretty tempting. He'll be an impact receiver in the NFL. Good size, speed, good route runner, and great hands. I've though all along he is a first round talent and may still be.

we def need a to add db's and maybe a RT, however, I would be thinking WR in the later part of the draft and in free agency. I hope Garcon doesn't get hurt again but it is a definite possibility. What would be nice is if we had our cap space back that was taken for no apparent reason. It would also be nice if Hankerson or Robinson showed enough to take Morgan's job, but i don't know if that will happen. Our WR situation is NOT settled, but its certainly more stable than the defensive backfield.

woulda, coulda, shoulda ...

we won the NFC East with an absolutely decimated front 7 - the secondary was not the real issue - losing both Carriker and Orakpo was

I'm sure we will have a better secondary ... the big 'addition' will be the return of our injured players

Haslett did wonders and will be able to get better pressure with a little help
I'm not sure how we actually 'fix' the pass defense but it would seem we can help with our own players and with the draft - AND .. I'm sure the FO will find some gems available in free agency


we might add a WR but I really doubt that anyone we get will be a starter

The best coverage is a good pass rush!! So getting Orakpo back will help that a lot but are secondary still needs some work and someone to replace D hall! I feel like there is a lot more to adress than the WR position but if he is there late in the third which I highly doubt... I would snag him up!

The best coverage is a good pass rush!! So getting Orakpo back will help that a lot but are secondary still needs some work and someone to replace D hall! I feel like there is a lot more to adress than the WR position but if he is there late in the third which I highly doubt... I would snag him up!

I'm fairly sure we'll be looking at CBs, safety and RT before we go anywhere else
picking up a WR in the draft would be ONLY if that guy was VERY high on their boards and available late - highly unlikely

To spend another 2nd round pick on a WR would be tough to swallow. We have wasted a couple 2nd round picks on WRs. Also a couple wasted picks in the first on WRs. I believe Gardener was a 1st if Im not mistaken?

Yeah its too risky to spend another 2nd rounder on a WR. DBs tend to pan out for the most part. Our luck with WRs has only recently been ok. Our late round picks have turned out OK. I like Aldrick Robinson who was a late round pick.

Gardner was a 1st rounder. He had 1 good season than stunk. Taylor Jacobs, can't forget him I believe he was a 2nd or 3rd rounder, and then we have Kelly and Thomas from a few seasons ago. Our track record with drafting WRs is about as good as Taylor Swift's track record with men. Stay away from them in the draft. Get me pass rushing DL and secondary help.

when considering 'our draft record' it is ONLY the past few drafts that can be used - dumb & dumber were in charge before

we are not taking a WR with one of our first 3 picks in this draft

SkinsJock wrote:when considering 'our draft record' it is ONLY the past few drafts that can be used - dumb & dumber were in charge before

we are not taking a WR with one of our first 3 picks in this draft

We probably need to be thinking about that soon though. CLL mentioned to possibility of A. Robinson being Moss's replacement in the next x yr(s)

I'm all about another solid WR but its a need we have the luxury of time with. Especially if we re-sign Davis.

Many have brought to attention the fact that Shanny loves to get RBs at every draft. I think that would be wise to extend Morris's longevity.

If someone exceptional is available to us though, I'd be ok with us getting a luxury pick. Never know what we might be without next year.

As Shanahan said, I'm all for "balancing need with best available player."

PAPDOG67 wrote:Gardner was a 1st rounder. He had 1 good season than stunk. Taylor Jacobs, can't forget him I believe he was a 2nd or 3rd rounder, and then we have Kelly and Thomas from a few seasons ago. Our track record with drafting WRs is about as good as Taylor Swift's track record with men. Stay away from them in the draft. Get me pass rushing DL and secondary help.

Lets not forget old fist of fury Michael Westbrook!

Different people drafting for us these days, folks. Stop living in the past.

Deadskins wrote:Different people drafting for us these days, folks. Stop living in the past.

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