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& maybe a solid corner too.. if the deal was right?

Could now be a time to think about this, or keep the insurance policy & let his stock rise?

burgngold4life wrote:& maybe a solid corner too.. if the deal was right?

Could now be a time to think about this, or keep the insurance policy & let his stock rise?

After a season in which we desperately needed someone of Cousins quality as a backup... were VERY fortunate to have him, and the likelihood that your outstanding and higly mobile starter WILL be hurt at times again...

this is an amazing question.


No. Not this year. Maybe in two years, assuming a viable back-up option is on the team... NO... Grossman is NOT a viable back-up option.

Countertrey wrote:

burgngold4life wrote:& maybe a solid corner too.. if the deal was right?

Could now be a time to think about this, or keep the insurance policy & let his stock rise?

After a season in which we desperately needed someone of Cousins quality as a backup... were VERY fortunate to have him, and the likelihood that your outstanding and higly mobile starter WILL be hurt at times again...

this is an amazing question.


No. Not this year. Maybe in two years, assuming a viable back-up option is on the team... NO... Grossman is NOT a viable back-up option.

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The Hogster wrote:

Countertrey wrote:

burgngold4life wrote:& maybe a solid corner too.. if the deal was right?

Could now be a time to think about this, or keep the insurance policy & let his stock rise?

After a season in which we desperately needed someone of Cousins quality as a backup... were VERY fortunate to have him, and the likelihood that your outstanding and higly mobile starter WILL be hurt at times again...

this is an amazing question.


No. Not this year. Maybe in two years, assuming a viable back-up option is on the team... NO... Grossman is NOT a viable back-up option.

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If the deal was right, I would trade anyone except RGIII. But, "right" would have to be stupidly one-sided. Like Herschel Walker to the Vikings "right."

Deadskins wrote:If the deal was right, I would trade anyone except RGIII. But, "right" would have to be stupidly one-sided. Like Herschel Walker to the Vikings "right."

Exactly. Wasn't there a "What would it take thread on this a month ago?

If it's day two of the draft and you're able to trade Cousins for a Corner/Safety, pick up a 4th round pick and swap picks say 5th round picks (from 22 to say 1-5) then you can make the trade, draft a QB or bring in a FA QB to play backup. I don't think you'll get a quality corner and a solid early draft pick for Cousins. I think if we were willing to trade him, the best we could get is a 2nd which is a nice trade imo. If you do make the trade, you better have a gameplan on what you're going to do.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading him but the compensation needs to be good.

Let's throw this out there for a scenario:

Skins trade Kirk Cousins to Az

AZ gives up QB Ryan Lindley and we swap picks in say the 2nd round and pick up a 5th or 6th.

I just don't see it

frankcal20 wrote:Let's throw this out there for a scenario:

Skins trade Kirk Cousins to Az

AZ gives up QB Ryan Lindley and we swap picks in say the 2nd round and pick up a 5th or 6th.

Who?? Lmao, maybe if Fitz or Peterson came in that package, smh! Cousins is worth his weight in gold to this team, especially with how RGiiis season ended.

I literally threw one scenario out there. There are other options out there I'm sure and while a backup QB is very important to this team, you don't miss out on a potential opportunity if you're presented with one.

No way, not with the way RG3 plays. He's great, but you need the insurance of having a good backup quarterback that can step up if needed. Maybe after this next season when RG3 proves he can stay healthy you try to deal him for a top tier corner

Sure, if the deal was "right." But what are the odds someone would make that kind of offer? Close to zero.

Irn-Bru wrote:Sure, if the deal was "right." But what are the odds someone would make that kind of offer? Close to zero.

If this was a few years ago, the only team that would be dumb enough to make that trade would be the Redskins... Last I checked, you can't go back in time to make trades with yourself.

I bet Danny's got some minion working on it.

Irn-Bru wrote:I bet Danny's got some minion working on it.

LOL, that'd be awesome.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:I bet Danny's got some minion working on it.

LOL, that'd be awesome.

Letting Cousins go even for a late first round draft choice would be insane, unless we were certain of getting someone more skilled at QB--which we know can't happen. We wouldn't have won our division without him last season and probably wouldn't this season either. Since when is an unproven second or third round CB worth more than a proven QB with starter skills? In spite of our incredible luck in the draft last year, the draft is a crap shoot--we'd be more likely to come up with nothing than anyone who can crack the starting lineup.
Hold onto talent. Draft well for depth or a lucky shot without giving up anything. Steal some FA's with Danny's checkbook.

burgngold4life wrote:& maybe a solid corner too.. if the deal was right?
Could now be a time to think about this, or keep the insurance policy & let his stock rise?

I would NOT ...

A deal for Cousins could happen but it's highly unlikely that, AT THIS TIME, anyone would make an offer that could make Mike let him go

we have a good situation at QB right now - there is no need to change anything ....

ANYTHING is possible but Cousins' value (as our backup AND his trade value) only goes up with him staying here for another season

crazyhorse1 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:I bet Danny's got some minion working on it.

LOL, that'd be awesome.

Letting Cousins go even for a late first round draft choice would be insane, unless we were certain of getting someone more skilled at QB--which we know can't happen. We wouldn't have won our division without him last season and probably wouldn't this season either. Since when is an unproven second or third round CB worth more than a proven QB with starter skills? In spite of our incredible luck in the draft last year, the draft is a crap shoot--we'd be more likely to come up with nothing than anyone who can crack the starting lineup.
Hold onto talent. Draft well for depth or a lucky shot without giving up anything. Steal some FA's with Danny's checkbook.

I'd need another QB (who is also young and capable of starting) as well as an early pick - you know, the deal no one will offer - something like Stafford and the Lions first pick.

I love the Captain.

I'm so glad Shanny was smart with the pick that got him here.

No way a team is going to trade for Cousins when they have Stafford. No team is going to go out like that after the last two QBs who entered free agency with limited reps/playing time (See Kolb & Flynn). I just don't see it. So what you've got to do is first and foremost, be a coach/GM who knows more about football than we do. Secondly, you've got to place a value on what you've got and third, you've got to see what compensation is coming back to you. Every player in the NFL is for sale and has a price. If you don't see that, you're not paying attention. Hell, Indy let Peyton Manning go. Joe Montana was traded. If you can trade a backup QB for a starting player and a possible 2nd starting player, you make the deal. No question. You have the ability to bring in a Vet who can manage the game just like Cousins would and everything is centered around the run game so we're good to go there.

I'd make the trade if the right compensation came my way because that's just me upgrading my team. I would though bring in a younger Vet QB who has played in the league.

AGAIN & AGAIN

a 'deal' could be made that would make Mike part with Cousins at this time ...

most of us here KNOW this

The ONLY franchise that is stupid enough to 'make a deal' is the franchise that 'owns' Kirk Cousins and those idiots are not in charge here anymore

so ... a deal could happen but it is highly unlikely

It only takes one team to fall in love with a player to make a trade. If we don't trade him, it's good for the Skins. If we do trade him, it'll be good for the Skins and with the guys in charge, I believe they have a plan in place for either scenario. That's why I'm not worried either way. I just enjoy the ride in seeing how it plays out.

not this soon in his career and i would at least wait til after preseason and see what the offer is then.

frankcal20 wrote:No way a team is going to trade for Cousins when they have Stafford.

DarthMonk wrote:- you know, the deal no one will offer - something like Stafford and the Lions first pick.

frankcal20 wrote:I just don't see it.

Me either.

crazyhorse1 wrote:

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote:I bet Danny's got some minion working on it.

LOL, that'd be awesome.

Letting Cousins go even for a late first round draft choice would be insane, unless we were certain of getting someone more skilled at QB--which we know can't happen. We wouldn't have won our division without him last season and probably wouldn't this season either. Since when is an unproven second or third round CB worth more than a proven QB with starter skills? In spite of our incredible luck in the draft last year, the draft is a crap shoot--we'd be more likely to come up with nothing than anyone who can crack the starting lineup.
Hold onto talent. Draft well for depth or a lucky shot without giving up anything. Steal some FA's with Danny's checkbook.

Wait... Did you read what FFA and I were talking about? lol